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Because last year the talent didn't matter. Cleveland went from 6-10 to 11-5. Ended a 18 year playoff drought and won a playoff game. The talent from last year to this year didn't change much. Only thing that changed was the coach. Add in that Stefanski did all that without an offseason and without a preseason as a first time head coach. Mcdermott is a great coach, and he would have deserved it too, but he has had his system in place for 4 years now makes this offseason situation a lot easier to manage.

On Goff.

You can't deny interviews when it's a promotion.

So I say "a bunch" and you require 4 sources. You say "almost universally" and think 1 is fine. Makes sense.

Cleveland beat Tennessee too. You also left out where Indianapolis got blown out by Tennessee two weeks later. How about how they gave Jacksonville their only win of the year? The Packers win is obviously impressive. Well done. Doesn't mean they're a "great" team. Good, solid playoff team.

You said universally considered better yet gave 1 example. Define "universally." I'll post some links I found later but I'm on a phone right now. Once I have access to a PC I will do that.

Universally, huh? Cleveland beat Indy pretty easily early in the year. Cleveland was the higher playoff seed. Football Outsiders is 1 metric. A bunch of power rankings and such had Cleveland ahead.

I love how because Buffalo best Indy that Indy is magically better then Cleveland. Except they aren't. That, and the fact that KC and GB only played 1 game in the playoffs, and given how the seeding works they HAD to pay the lowest team remaining.

The league does send in Drs. They aren't team Drs who make the determination. Reid has nothing to do with it.

If you release a player, you can't get comp picks for them.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but Pittsburgh is 1-4 in the last 5 games and they aren't unbeatable. Run the ball, control the clock, and you have a chance.

Tannehill has been very good too. Henry is the focal point but the offense is pretty solid all the way around.

To be fair, nothing Kitchens did last year worked out too well.

The dude was playing with receivers who had never played in a game before. Not just one, all of them. They had to do a walk-through in the parking garage Sunday morning because they didn't know they were losing the receivers till Saturday afternoon. Mayfield definitely didn't play well but he didn't have anything to work with either. I was more disappointed in the run game.

Chubb is a FA after next season.

The Browns also played three weeks in a row in very bad wind or rain which limited passing for both teams. They averaged like 145 yards a game for three games in a row. Also take into account that Buffalo has been running the same offensive system for 3-year straight in Cleveland has been running four systems in three years. It takes a while to get comfortable in a system and really open up what you're trying to do. And Cleveland leads the league in rushing. The total offenses are 11 yards a game difference.

Go Bills!

He wasn't asked to. 20-25 in the first half. 5-8 in the 2nd in mostly obvious passing downs.

A 7-3 garbage heap. Right.

And the Bills have made the playoffs very recently, but they also had a huge stretch before that, and haven't won a playoff game since 95. Quit acting like Buffalo's history had been much better.

That's not how it works. I thought it was funny when everyone said it should be a forfeit. How should a team get a win without playing? I get punishing Tennessee, but you can't reward a team for doing nothing.

From Vegas? Really?

The Browns run a power play to the left with Teller pulling around as lead blocker and it gets 8+ yards everytime, and they run it a ton. His transformation even from the last half of last year to this year is baffling.

How so? He signed him to the contract and then one year later traded him and gave away a second round pick who turned into one of the best running backs in football. he was dumb enough to sign into a huge contract and then he was dumb enough to have to do that to get rid of it.

O'Brien gifted the Browns Nick Chubb too. Trading Osweiler and a 2nd to unload that contract, and then they stunk, so Cleveland had #4 (draft day trade, turned in to Denzel Ward) and #36 (Osweiler contract trade) all because O'Brien is stupid. He had a history of this.