cle23

Both parties have been saying this for YEARS. It's garbage either way.

I'd love to hear your reasoning here.

Jerome Bettis

I can't even say 100% I agree with age limits. If the person can do the job and the entire job, then I don't care. But no one should be there more than 8 years.

You talk a lot of crap about a city, when Buffalo has been just as bad over the years. They're on a good 3 year run, but haven't won anything more than Cleveland at this point. Congrats?

And this why term limits are needed.

Obviously the Bills will be heavy favorites, but an Urban Meyer Jacksonville beat Buffalo, so I doubt it's 10 tries. They're a pretty decent team.

Again, not great. I said he was average. But he wasn't "awful", especially given the circumstances. They played a game in 40 mph winds, and then another with -21 wind chill in the course of 6 games. Everyone plays in bad weather occasionally, but not 1/3 of your games. All that with very limited preseason and then no practice/meetings/etc for over half the season. There's a chance he doesn't improve going into this year, but I think it's a tiny percentage.

You keep saying Watson was awful last year, which isn't true. He definitely wasn't great, but he ended the year at 7 TDs, 5 INTs, and played 2 of his 6 games in terrible weather. And hadn't played in a year and a half. If he continues to play like that over the long haul, Cleveland will be average at best. Their defense blew more games last year and Joe Woods is finally gone.

Watson in 2020 was top tier. He still has the talent. He wasn't allowed to practice for months or even be in the building. He didn't even get 1st team reps or play much in preseason because they had to get Brissett ready to play. Watson was average last year. He was understandably very rusty the 1st game or 2 and they had a couple terrible weather games at the end of the year. Not excusing his play but it definitely puts it into perspective a little bit. He very well may never get back to where he was. But I think it's very premature to come out and say that he's terrible all the sudden.

I don't disagree with much of what was said, but Watson played in 2020, so he has played 6 games in 2 seasons, not in 3 seasons. You would assume that he would get back closer to 2020 Watson after a full offseason and beginning the year, but I don't disagree with Cleveland's lower rating until he proves it. If he is 2020 Watson, they should be SB contenders. If he isn't, then they won't be.

The DE tag is more than a LB tag. Or it was for several years. I do believe it is closer now. It's the average of the top 5 salaries for the position. And again, the previous post said if he was inline for 10%. That means 90% flexed. If Kelce was flexed 35%, that means he was inline for 65%, which is the majority.

Someone else put it best earlier in the thread. Burrow is the better QB. Allen is a better overall football player. Allen is bigger, faster, and has a stronger arm. Burrow is more accurate, and processes defense and coverages better. Burrow seems to make better decisions overall, and Allen will give you more WOW plays. If I had to pick 1 of the 2 start start a franchise with, it would be Burrow, but mainly because I feel like Allen's style of play is much more unforgiving, at some point he will slow down, and his body will have problems from the hits. It may be 3 years, it may be 10. But Burrow is a guy I could see playing 15-20 more years. Allen may too, but not the way he plays now. And I trust Burrow more as a pure passer than Allen.

If he lines up at the line for only 10% of his snaps, he would have a major case to be classified as a WR. Just like the LBs who rush 80% of the time. They usually win their case to be classified as a DE. What typically happens in those cases is the team and player agree to a number somewhere in the middle.

Good thing the Chiefs are a run first offense. Smith dislocated his elbow early last year. He was much worse after that. Not saying he is All Pro, but he is at least average, which is usually sufficient.

Hickman to Cleveland.

Bill Callahan at OLine coach really helps too.

He only played 1 year in the SEC. Still impressive, but it wasn't his whole career.

To be fair, neither did I.

The owner of the place already publicly said the cameras show nothing, and that the accuser wasn't even near him.

If Tennessee is just dumping salary, it may take a later round pick to get Henry, and they keep their higher picks. No way they would have to trade a 1st for him.

He became a GM a lot faster than I was anticipating.

The issue being, for every Allen, there are 5 busts. Most QBs who are drafted on "potential" are hot garbage because if they're drafted on potential it generally means they aren't that great. Allen was able to refine himself for the most part, but he still has his moments where the guy drafted on potential shows up.

I don't like Stroud much. If I'm Houston, I trade down if Young goes 1 and try to grab Richardson or Levis. Stock more picks and take either of those guys wherever you trade down to, or at 12. Still a gamble, but the extra picks help offset the risk.

Mike Mayock happened. But Ruggs with his situation, and the Raiders didn't have a pick until round 3 last year. Leatherwood, their 2021 1st is already gone. Arnette is gone. Clellin Ferrell is gone. Jonathan Abrams. All well before their contracts expired. All 1st rounders.