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4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
No way it can be illegal, it's done in every league
Yes, a professional league. The money going to the college players is essentially endorsements, which can't be capped.
The NFL can't cap endorsements either, just salary. And it can prevent side deals to circumvent the cap through the league, but not outside endorsements.
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5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
I say no portal until all bowl games are played and if you sit out the bowl game, you can't enter the portal.
I also say you must stay 3 years at the college you committed to,before you can enter the portal. Drafted into the NFL you must stay with the team that drafted you for 4-5 years. I believe anyone team owns your rights for 3 years.
You can only enter the portal twice.
There needs to be a salary cap implemented just like the pros.
A college salary cap has already been ruled illegal.
If we're trying to implement these rules, then make the rules for coaches as well.
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39 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Why? The team with the better QB has the advantage in the playoffs unless the other team has a huge advantage on defense which they do not.
And one of the best ways to nullify a great QB is to control the clock, which the Lions are very capable of.
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12 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Who started a giant brawl? The guy who planted the flag and those who went to defend him. Sawyer had the flag but the guy who planted it wanted to fight. Don't start something with people and then cry when they defend themselves I say...
Did you watch the post game at all? Michigan planted the flag, and OSU's team ran back and started fighting at mid field. The guy with the flag when Sawyer took it was AFTER the original fight. And again, I don't agree with him doing that at all either.
Michigan was midfield with the flag, and when OSU saw it, they ran back and started pushing/fighting. AFTER getting the fight settled, then I agree, the Michigan player instigated the 2nd fight by taking the flag back through the OSU players.
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41 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Texas/Michigan and Oregon/Michigan aren't bitter rivalries, so your first point makes absolutely no sense.
It shows that schools can plant flags and not lose their crap over it. I don't agree with the flag planting, I think it's a dumb new fad, but it doesn't have to turn into a giant brawl over it. To me it's like running up the score. I don't agree with that either, but in same breath, if you don't like it, stop them. If OSU didn't like it, win the game.
Sarkisian for Texas said: ""There is a way to win it with class," Sarkisian said. "I just didn't think it was the right thing to do... We shouldn't be planting any flags on their logo." This is this week, after allowing his team to do it earlier in the year.
Again, I think it's stupid when anyone plants a flag. But it is also stupid to start a giant brawl over it as well.
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1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:
Hopefully after 4 years, Day will realize he needs to turn the offense over to someone else. I can imagine him being told that by the AD as a condition for staying, hopefully it happens that way.
Didn't he do that this year with Chip Kelly?
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On 12/1/2024 at 1:55 PM, boyst said:
I think it's a by product of the product of the NIL and players protecting their interests/image for the NFL.
A lot of players don't engage in the gritty attitude and act soft. Id bet most of the players who acted out yesterday, especially the ichigan player carrying the flag late, don't have a future beyond a drive thru.
It's amazing, but Texas and Oregon planted flags on Michigan's field earlier this season, and miraculously, no fights broke out. I don't like it, but it's becoming a somewhat normal thing to do in today's college football. OSU is full blown fake tough guy with Day.
And I agree that the player taking the flag through the OSU team after the fight was over is wrong. At that point, both teams needed to just move on, not instigate another fight. How do you feel about the 3-4 OSU players who attacked the Michigan sideline reporter (who just so happened to be former Michigan and Eagles receiver Jason Avant) picking up the flag after Sawyer threw it?
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4 hours ago, SirAndrew said:
Yeah, Ohio State seems incapable of creating a passing game against decent opponents. Day was successful with CJ Stroud, but has now failed with McCord and Howard. Neither of those guys are Stroud, but Ohio State is always loaded with receiver talent, and that should mean something. It’s like Day enjoys old school Big Ten battles that emphasize defeating the opponent physically, but that plays exactly to Michigan’s strength.
To me it almost feels like he is out to prove he is "tough." The Lou Holtz thing almost broke him, because he is not on a mission to show everyone how tough they are. He seems like an insecure little kid that has to do something when someone said they shouldn't.
Day is a great offensive coach, but he can't get out of his own way. Play to your strengths, which is "finesse" football. Instead he seems to try to play smashmouth football against a legitimate smashmouth team, and that doesn't work.
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53 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:
I'm writing a blank check to Mike Varbel now get a NFL DC and OC from the Rams tree or lions tree
Vrabel doesn't want to coach college. He hates recruiting and the NIL.
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4 hours ago, GaryPinC said:
Jeremiah Smith 5 for 35 yards. That's a sick joke.
No cohesive offensive strategy, no balance, effort to establish Howard and his targets.
That was the worst coaching job on one side of the ball since 2018 when Harbaugh's DC played a base defense nonstop the entire game en route to getting blown out by OSU.
There's a lot to like about Ryan Day but it's no longer enough. Chip Kelly to the rescue! Not.😂
Michigan forced OSU to have Will Howard beat them, and Howard proved that he is what he was at KSU......average. He has more weapons than anyone in college football, but if you make him throw to win, he often can't. He has "looked" great this year, but he always seemed to still have struggles against averahe to above average defenses, especially when he has to be one dimensional.
The coaching also proved that is wasn't McCord that was the problem. Great job with a $20M roster.
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17 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:
No, they're not.
They've a slightly better oline, although their interior is slightly overrated. The RB room is similar, Kincaid and Laporta are similar but Kincaid has more elite skills. Knox is better than any of the lions other tes. Shakir is a faster version of amon ra. Buffalo has better wrs outside that.
Buffalo has a much greater QB who doesn't need a powerful running game to still be great. That has been proven over the years ad nauseum and was proven yet again vs the second best team in the NFL with the chiefs... Buffalo has better edges and can get an organic pass rush. The lions can't without hutch. Buffalo lbs are better especially with Milano back and anzalone hurt. CBS are even but Benford is the best right now and Douglas/ Elam have more experience. Lions have better safety talent
QB - Allen is better than Goff, no doubt. But Goff is also playing really well this year overall. Rough game against Houston.
RB - The running backs aren't that similar. Davis is looking much better the last few weeks to make it closer, but Detroit's room is better. They have the best 1-2 punch in the NFL right now. Montgomery is Detroit's 2nd rusher, and he had 1 less yard rushing than Cook.
WR - With Cooper now, Buffalo is probably a little better than Detroit, but it's all debatable. Saying Shakir is St. Brown but faster is laughable. St. Brown had more yards last year than Skakir has had in a 2.5 year career, and that's with the better QB.
TE - Buffalo has a slightly better room overall, but Kincaid isn't better than LaPorta. But Knox is better than anyone else that Detroit has.
OL - I agree that Detroit's OL is better.
DL - With Hutch hurt, I would agree that Buffalo is better on the edge, but Detroit added Za'Darius Smith, who is still above average. He is especially good against the run. For the interior, Detroit is better.
LB - I give Buffalo the edge here. Even with Anzalone, Buffalo is likely better.
Secondary - Buffalo probably has the CB edge, and Detroit has the S edge.
As we all know, having the best players doesn't always mean the best team. The teams overall are pretty close in talent, but I feel like Detroit is playing the best football right now. Obviously Buffalo is playing great too.
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1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:
Lions are a really good team, very physical and good balance.
Buffalo is a great team with a great QB...
The Lions aren't just a good team, they're the best team in the NFL right now. Goff isn't Allen, but Detroit's weapons are better.
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18 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
Check out this love tap by Watt
That's like the 5th time Watt has done this too. Most of them aren't anywhere near the ball either.
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8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Za’Darius Smith would be the best realistic player we could acquire. The $ fits.
But, I expect Ravens or Lions get him
Rumors are that Smith will be a Lion tonight or tomorrow.
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3 hours ago, jcamm1966 said:
My bad, BTW Ward playing for Browns JOK put on IR no trading him now
They just extended JOK before the season, no trading him either way.
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1 minute ago, bills6969 said:
Watson just tore his Achilles
Yep. You could see it pop in the replay.
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33 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
Yall killing Dorsey even though Stefanski runs the offense. Dorsey is OC in title only.
Stefanski went to the playoffs with 5 different QBs last year. It's Watson. 100%. The line is definitely not as good as last year, but there are tons of plays with WRs WIDE open that end up in a sack. And zero pass threat, they stack the box and stop the run too.
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On 9/12/2024 at 6:02 PM, Beast said:
Screw Browns fans. They supported that jackass regarding his dozens of other allegations. The ONLY reason they are backing away from him now is because his play has sucked.That's not true, at all. Most didn't like the trade. I didn't. Sure, some were excited, but most root for him only in the sense that it helps the team. Essentially rooting against him is to hope your own team loses.
Just now, Sweats said:Parts of the game that i watched yesterday, Watson looked like an ole noodle arm, trying to heave a 12 pound salami downfield......he had a few flashes where he kind of looked adequate, but for the most part i saw absolute futile failure.
I think most of that is his lack of conviction. He can't just let the ball loose. Most throws are 3-5 yards, and even then, he holds the ball as long as possible before throwing it. The quick passes can work, but you have to get the ball out quick and give the receivers a chance to do something with it. He had a 5 yard completion yesterday, where the guy was wide open the entire time, but by the time he threw it, the receiver got blasted as soon as he caught by a guy that started 10 yards away, or more.
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1 hour ago, Sweats said:
I honestly don't know how the Browns keep getting themselves in these messes.......you would think at least one person in their FO would recognize that the ship is sinking year in and year out with no land in sight. Just when you think the Browns have made the stupidest decision in franchise history, 10 minutes later, it's like, "hold my beer.......you thought that was stupid, wait till you see this one".
It's almost like a contest in their FO to see who can **** it up the most every season and the sad thing, it's always been this way with Cleveland.
Aye Carumba.
It's Haslam. Andrew Berry is entirely analytics driven. His goal is to gather picks, not part with them. Even when he trades a pick away, it's either later round, or a pick swap with a player included too. Like a 3rd for a player and a 4th. Analytics say to gather as many picks as possible. The more swings, the higher chance of a hit. I can't see any situation that Berry traded all this picks for Watson without Haslam being involved and forcing the issue.
Watson's ability is still there. He just plays scared all the time now. 1 read and run, or 1 read and take a sack. The only time the team moved the ball yesterday was when he was willing to throw the ball down the field a little.
The Browns' line is in shambles, but they aren't the main problem. For most of the 2nd half yesterday, because of injuries, the OLine was:
LG - C - C - RG - RT and even then, they were rotating at RT, and their RG is a rookie, though he actually played very well.
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9 minutes ago, HansLanda said:
I didn't need to watch the Bears team to remember they drafted #1 overall for a reason. They are garbage.
They drafted 1st overall because Carolina is garbage. Chicago picked Odunze at 9 with their pick.
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23 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:
It was fourth and 16. Game was on the line.
The officials handed them the W.
It's a penalty. He interfered with Rice's ability to make a catch. Clear contact with the ball in the air.
I never understood the "game on the line" logic. If that's penalty in the 1st quarter, that's a penalty at the end of the game too, no matter the down or yardage.
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There are entirely too many moving parts, and too many people who could open their mouths for it to be rigged. Like others have said, i wouldn't rule out the possibility of a bad ref or something here or there, but to say the entire league is rigged and it's never slipped out is crazy. Too many players and too many chances for the "script" to be messed up.
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33 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:
no one cares...just do it. we don't need to know.
He calls everyone snowflakes, then blocks everyone who disagrees with him. He also spouts non stop nonsense, then claims any post or news report that disagrees is a hoax. He's a classic troll.
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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Stroud had outstanding ball placement which allowed it to work, we shall see… Howard did say that while he was hesitant it first but he grew in confidence after he saw the WRs making the play every time.
Yeah, if Howard can prove to be very accurate, he will be fine. Stroud obviously is elite in that department, but Howard hasn't had a great track record there. I would assume that OSU's coaches are better than K-State's, so he very well could improve, but that will determine his ability to throw guys open.
Portal Changes Needed?
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You're not entirely wrong, but coaches have been able to tell players to "f off" for years. In theory, a coach could have signed a whole entire class to binding LOI, and then leave the next day with no penalty. If the player then decided to transfer the day the coach left, he would have to sit out a year at the new school before being able to play, while the coach could start immediately. And coaches are getting paid $10+ million per year now in college, and the players were making nothing. College football especially is now generating billions of dollars per year, so while it is insane to see what some of these players are making, they should be able to make whatever money they can. Should the market set your salary rate, or should their be some agency that determines what you are allowed to make?
I am not saying the new system is perfect because it isn't, but why would the players agree to a cap?