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My point was they need significant improvement on the line, not lateral moves and depth players. Allen’s mobility hid a lot of deficiencies in the pass blocking. Our 2018 line was horrendous and 2019 was still less than mediocre.

It is a little scary. Last night on NFL Network I caught the end of last year’s second game against the Patriots. Allen made a great throw to Beasley that got us down to ~10 yard line inside 2 minutes. From there... 1st Down: DaBoll calls a QB sweep that doesn’t go anywhere. I put that on both DaBoll and the line. 2nd Down: Allen misses a TD to Knox in the corner of the end zone by a foot. I remember after the game many put this on Allen, but I still feel like a better TE makes that play. 3rd Down: Sack from immediate pressure on the right AND up the middle where Pats only rushed 4? 4th Down: Allen struggles to heave one to John Brown in the end zone facing instant pressure from all angles. Between DaBoll wasting a down with a bad running play, our late round TE essentially dropping a pass, and our offensive line not blocking we lose that game. I think that was a microcosm of the season on offense and those 3 areas haven’t been addressed so far... Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy we have Diggs, but receiver was not the only place on offense we needed significant improvement. There is a reason we were in the bottom third of the NFL on offense beyond one receiver.

FA is basically picked over by this point and we’ve traded away our first round draft pick. I would be shocked to see us add anyone of true quality to the line from here on out.

If Allen fails due to a lacking Offensive Line (that went unaddressed in 2020) and a critical injury or two to Diggs/Brown/Beasley where McBeane failed to address receiver depth, then McBeane may be on the chopping block. Up to this point they haven’t done Allen many favors in terms of his development. I credit Allen with his own development. Although we went to the playoffs, I’ve seen a lot of head scratchers in terms of roster, trades and game management.

While he is right about people being a bunch of sissies, it is high time people start recognizing their own role in all of this. His generation raised a bunch of idiots and elected a bunch of idiots and that cycle has continued to today. It seems illogical to blame the kids of today for not being taught the ideals and sacrifice that America was founded upon. There is a generation of young people that doesn’t own anything because the prices of college, real estate, health care, and vehicles is astronomical in comparison to their wages. They are told they need a college education, only to find out when they graduate that the morons their elders elected in Washington are giving their jobs away to foreigners on discount wages to massive corporations. They are told Social Security won’t be there for them, but they still have to pay into it. They are being handed a totally broken health care system. No wonder they act in selfish ways.

Too predictable when he was in. Teams knew what to expect and rendered him useless.

Do we even have the best group in our division? New England does have Edelman and Sanu.

So Drew Brees may have it too?

I think it is laughable that you imply that the cheating stopped. It has been ongoing for 20 years. That is the real story of the Patriot Way and the reason we won’t see the Patriots fade until the cheating is stopped. Brady leaving will have little to no impact on New England’s success.

Those are the same fans that are in total denial over Spygate...

My original point that Diggs was a marginally better version of Brown was based on watching both of them. They are both somewhat smaller and faster, but not Tyreek Hill blazers. They are strong route runners with reliable mitts. Diggs has better after the catch ability. They are well rounded, but not physically dominating. They are respected, but don’t strike fear in opposing DBs for that reason. The stats merely back up the visual. Diggs is still a far cry from top guys of the past few years like Julio and Michael Thomas.

He has a higher ceiling than Diggs and would be on a rookie contract. Maybe he ultimately won’t be as good as Diggs, but on the surface, if Lamb is somehow there at 22 then it makes the trade for a receiver with attitude problems look highly questionable.

Last year they both played 15 games: Brown had 65 catches, 1003 yards and 7 TDs Diggs had 63 catches, 1130 yards and 6 TDs Some would argue Diggs played with the better QB. Watching Diggs’ highlights, Kirk made some deep throws that Josh couldn’t hit last year. That said, this should be the Bills best receiver group since Moulds/Price.

I gave it a B for a couple reasons: 1. An A is reserved for when you clearly got the better end of a deal. Like when we unloaded Dareus. 2. While a good player, he screams 2nd round to me. He doesn’t physically stand out amongst the top NFL receivers. He is a borderline #1 receiver and I think only marginally better than John Brown. 3. That said, I do think he helps this team and is instantly our best receiver. One thing to watch... seems like most people are making big assumptions regarding how high receivers will get drafted. If Lamb is still sitting there when Buffalo would have picked, then this was a bad trade.

Trying to draft a receiver in the first would have been frustrating. This year the other teams basically KNEW we would be going receiver in Round 1. We would have seen other teams trading to get in front of us. This was a solid move, though I was hoping for a more physically dominating player.

Now he has a receiver group more like Josh.

I never really cared for him, glad we didn’t sink any more money into him.

Who is bringing the milk?

I’m 32 and fall on the conservative side of the spectrum, but I agree that Social Security is an absolutely essential program. If we had that money in our paychecks, businesses would just inflate their prices and we essentially wouldn’t get anything (only the illusion of having more money). It is money nobody can touch which is the ultimate counterweight to unchecked capitalism.

Is Mr. Ags Augie?

IMO Lamb is the best possible scenario

Gronk will likely flop as a wrestler. His personality is overblown, as is his talking ability. Not to mention his on-field freakout on Tre would go over super poorly if he acted out that way in that business.

I’d say the fact that we are heading into year 4 and have had no clear cut #1 receiver over that span is definite cause for concern. They seem to have picked QB correctly, hopefully they can pick the guy to end our wide receiver woes. Having a true #1 talent would make Brown and Beasley far more dangerous.

I’ll venture a guess that this has to do with the loss of manufacturing jobs and wage growth that hasn’t kept up with inflation.

How strange!? I don’t recall seeing the Jags in the playoffs last year.