Lieutenant Aldo Raine

Really...College?

I think we are safe to edit the title of this thread!

My personal definition is conjecture (assumption, inference, supposition) matches closely with your perception. I don't see Allen toning back stiff arming and trying to show-up defenders if he has to, nor did I ever suspect defenders headhunting Allen based on what you call "racist tweets".

Huh? Talk about mind reading or conjecture?

I get your reference!

Chemistry is more than just playing catch. It's getting to know each other, discuss strengths, weaknesses, techniques, plays, coverages etc. It's just getting to know each other on a more personal and professional level. But you knew that already!

Oh crap, @Limeaid is gonna go ballistic.

Damn, that's nuts. That means in 2035 in Josh's final season as the Bills all time leader, the Bills should definitely draft someone whose name starts with the letter "J".

Complete hysteria; put your mask back on and go to sleep. Your pillow has more germs on it than the open air they are breathing.

Just stop with the hysteria...they're just as safe there in the open environment than they are in their own house. Soon they will be back at the practice facility and I'm pretty damn sure they won't be running drills with freaking masks on.

Because they are FREE and can think for themselves!!!

Yeah, people seem to forget how pedestrian Drew Brees was in his first years in the league with the Chargers...hence the reason they drafted Manning..er..Rivers in 2004. Point is, some people bloom late, maybe in the wrong system, or the player is just is who they are. Time will tell, but the fact that as long as Allen keeps progressing, the hope is his skill set will come to full fruition.

I think the Bills should keep with their tradition of a QB every three years...it's really worked out well for us. Passing Player Gms Att Cmp Pct Yds Int TD Lg Rating 1. Jim Kelly, 1986-96 160 4,779 2,874 60.1 35,467 175 237 84t 84.4 2. Joe Ferguson, 1973-84 164 4,166 2,188 52.5 27,590 190 181 92t 68.9 3. Jack Kemp, 1962-67,69 88 2,240 1,039 46.4 15,134 132 77 94t 55.8 4. Ryan Fitzpatrick, 2009-12 55 1,742 1,041 59.8 11,654 64 80 98t 79.8 5. Drew Bledsoe, 2002-04 48 1,531 905 59.1 10,151 43 55 73t 79.2 6. Tyrod Taylor, 2015-18 44 1,236 774 62.6 8,857 16 51 84t 92.5 7. Doug Flutie, 1998-00 39 1,063 598 56.3 7,582 30 47 84t 81.7 8. Dennis Shaw, 1970-73 45 916 485 52.9 6,286 67 35 75t 57.1 9. J.P. Losman, 2004-08 42 941 558 59.3 6,211 34 33 87t 75.6 10. Trent Edwards, 2007-10 34 878 535 60.9 5,739 27 25 70t 76.8 11. Josh Allen, 2018-19 28 781 440 56.3 5,163 21 30 75t 78.2 12. Rob Johnson, 1998-01 30 663 401 60.5 4,798 17 27 74t 85.5 13. E.J. Manuel, 2013-16 28 547 319 58.3 3,502 15 19 80t 77.5 14. Todd Collins, 1995-97 28 519 284 54.7 3,218 19 16 95t 68.5 15. Kyle Orton, 2014 12 447 287 64.2 3,018 10 18 84 87.8 16. Alex Van Pelt, 1994-03 32 477 262 54.9 2,985 24 16 80t 64.1 17. Frank Reich, 1985-94 93 377 222 58.9 2,540 12 18 63t 81.9 18. Daryle Lamonica, 1963-66 56 353 150 42.5 2,499 23 16 93 55.0 19. Johnny Green, 1960-61 18 354 145 41.0 2,170 15 16 70t 59.2 20. Warren Rabb, 1961-62 23 251 101 40.2 1,782 16 15 76t 58.6 21. Vince Ferragamo, 1985 10 287 149 51.9 1,677 17 5 48 50.8 22. Bruce Mathison, 1985 10 228 113 49.6 1,635 14 4 60t 53.5 23. Kelly Holcomb, 2005-06 10 230 155 67.4 1,509 8 10 65 85.6 24. Gary Marangi, 1974-76 19 283 104 36.7 1,373 21 12 64t 36.1 25. Dan Darragh, 1968-70 17 296 127 42.9 1,353 22 4 53 30.4 26. James Harris, 1969-72 18 189 90 47.6 1,120 11 5 62 51.0 27. Thaddeus Lewis, 2013-14 6 157 93 59.2 1,092 3 4 57 81.0 28. Tommy O'Connell, 1960-61 15 150 66 44.0 1,044 14 7 64 44.4 29. M.C. Reynolds, 1961 12 181 83 45.9 1,004 13 2 52 37.2 30. Matt Kofler, 1982-84 36 154 68 44.2 872 8 6 70t 53.8 31. Joe Dufek, 1983-85 10 150 74 49.3 829 8 4 64t 52.9 32. Richie Lucas, 1960-61 22 99 43 43.4 596 7 4 45 47.4 33. Matt Barkley, 2018-19 3 76 42 55.3 591 3 2 47 72.9 34. Nathan Peterman, 2017-18 8 130 68 52.3 548 12 3 26 32.5 35. Derek Anderson, 2018-19 2 70 42 60.0 465 4 0 40 56.0 36. Ed Rutkowski, 1963-68 83 102 41 40.2 380 6 0 37 26.6 37. Kay Stephenson, 1968 10 79 29 36.7 364 7 4 55t 31.8 38. Travis Brown, 2001,03 3 51 29 56.9 361 3 1 34 61.0 39. Bill Munson, 1978-79 7 50 27 54.0 359 2 4 43 87.0 40. Al Dorow, 1962 4 75 30 40.0 333 7 2 34 23.9 41. Jeff Tuel, 2013-15 2 59 26 44.1 309 3 1 59t 45.1 42. Tom Flores, 1967-69 17 74 27 36.5 291 9 0 59 9.3 43. Brian Brohm, 2009-10 3 52 27 51.9 252 5 0 33 26.0 44. Brian McClure, 1987 1 38 20 52.6 181 3 0 30 32.9 45. Mike Taliaferro, 1972 5 33 16 48.5 176 4 1 24 35.2 46. Willie Totten, 1987 2 33 13 39.4 155 2 2 37 49.4 47. Billy Joe Hobert, 1997 2 30 17 56.7 133 2 0 20 40.0 48. Dan Manucci, 1979-80,87 19 27 12 44.4 132 2 0 22 28.6 49. O.J. Simpson, 1969-77 112 16 6 37.5 110 0 1 34 82.8 50. Gale Gilbert, 1990-93 2 15 8 53.3 106 2 2 23 76.0 Sponsored Content

For the Buffalo Bills it is! 2nd playoff appearance in two of the last three years since 1999. But like you said, for much of the league.

If only Allen had made that tackle when it was 3rd and 18 and a stop probably would have sealed the game! Damn he sucks! So tell me Chief, why did the Bills draft him then? At #7 of all places, Why?

LOL; people on this board pass around college stats like hippies pass joints at Haight Ashbury. And what do you mean as a prerequisite? By using the word "They're" you are implying Big Stats based on your previous sentence.

You mean like being up 16-0 at halftime in a playoff game only to watch the defense give up 22 points in the 2nd half? That kind of dominate defense when it mattered most! Don't get me wrong, Allen and the offense could have performed better in second half as well; but the defense seems to get a pass in the biggest game of the year and perhaps biggest game in the past 20 years. But, I guess it's all Allen's fault to you!

Yeah whatever man. I couldn't defend that chart either.

I'm certainly not outraged, I'm not the one shouting in ALL CAPS. There you go again, implying college production is a benchmark for evaluating NFL success. I provided you a list of the top college QBs by production who the majority of them are not even in the NFL nor had success in the NFL.

Are you yelling in ALL CAPS! Lol I guess your not going to defend your point implying college statistics are the benchmark for NFL success. Like you said, "Yes is did say that".

Don't turn the subject back on Allen. You specifically stated, "Tua led a Top 2 D1 football program to a National Championship. Look at his college statistics verses Josh Allen's." This implies college statistics are a benchmark for being a NFL franchise QB. I am asking you to back that statement up using the chart of all the best college QBs ranked by passing stats.

1 Case Keenum* 19217 2007 2011 Houston 2 Timmy Chang* 17072 2000 2004 Hawaii 3 Landry Jones* 16646 2009 2012 Oklahoma 4 Graham Harrell* 15793 2005 2008 Texas Tech 5 Ty Detmer 15031 1988 1991 Brigham Young 6 Kellen Moore* 14667 2008 2011 Boise State 7 Baker Mayfield* 14607 2013 2017 Oklahoma 8 Luke Falk* 14481 2014 2017 Washington State 9 Colt Brennan* 14193 2005 2007 Hawaii 10 Rakeem Cato* 14079 2011 2014 Marshall 11 Mason Rudolph* 13618 2014 2017 Oklahoma State 12 Sean Mannion* 13600 2011 2014 Oregon State 13 Brett Rypien* 13578 2015 2018 Boise State 14 Philip Rivers* 13484 2000 2003 North Carolina State 15 Corey Robinson* 13477 2010 2013 Troy 16 Colt McCoy* 13253 2006 2009 Texas 17 Aaron Murray* 13166 2010 2013 Georgia 18 Kevin Kolb* 12964 2003 2006 Houston 19 Dan Lefevour* 12905 2006 2009 Central Michigan 20 Cooper Rush* 12891 2013 2016 Central Michigan 21 Brandon Doughty* 12855 2011 2015 Western Kentucky 22 Derek Carr* 12843 2009 2013 Fresno State 23 Tim Rattay 12746 1997 1999 Louisiana Tech 24 Ryan Lindley* 12690 2008 2011 San Diego State 25 Luke McCown 12666 2000 2003 Louisiana Tech 26 Chris Redman 12541 1996 1999 Louisville 27 Chase Daniel* 12515 2005 2008 Missouri 28 Mason Fine* 12505 2016 2019 North Texas 29 Brent Stockstill* 12483 2014 2018 Middle Tennessee State 30 Trevor Vittatoe* 12439 2007 2010 UTEP 31 Kliff Kingsbury* 12429 1999 2002 Texas Tech 32 Matt Barkley* 12327 2009 2012 USC 33 Jake Browning* 12296 2015 2018 Washington 34 Jared Goff* 12195 2013 2015 California 35 Drew Lock* 12193 2015 2018 Missouri 36 Zach Terrell* 12100 2013 2016 Western Michigan 37 Zac Dysert* 12013 2009 2012 Miami (OH) 38 Nick Mullens* 11994 2013 2016 Southern Mississippi 39 Shane Carden* 11991 2012 2014 East Carolina 40 Tajh Boyd* 1190 Well, according to you, these top 40 college QBs are guaranteed NFL franchise QBs. Go ahead, defend the chart! Source: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/pass-yds-player-career.html

Man, if I had a dollar for every time Couch GMs used college statistics to project NFL success, I would own an NFL team.

You have a mouse in your pocket? You don't speak for all of us!

Says the overpaid PE teacher!