Lieutenant Aldo Raine

Nope not at all. The question is, are you satisfied with TD production by the RBs over the past few years heading into this year (1 rushing TD per every 4 games by the RBs). If not, okay then. Point of my thread and my opinion is, as much as we should feel good about Allen and his rushing TDs, the majority of them are from broken plays and not by design. I believe this to be an area where we need to improve, as simple as that. If you disagree and are content with the current production, that's cool and your opinion. Just trying to have a conversation here.

Your stat is not correct; the Bills only had 4 rushing TDs out of 13 last year from RBs (2 from Gore and 2 from Singletary); Allen had the other 9. In 2018 they had the same (3 from McCoy and 1 from Ivory) out of 15; Allen had 8, Mckenizie 2, and Peterman 1. I agree with about increasing the passing TD #s, but ignoring the lack of ability for the RBs to get into the endzone and just relying all on the QB doesn't help. Many of those failures to get turned into FGs instead of TDs.

Yo @jeremy2020! Was I talking about runs over 20 yards in my initial post? I am not ignoring it and I appreciate the fact you contributed that to the discussion. Perhaps you could address and not ignore my overall point about the lack of rushing TDs by the RBs (TDs = 6pts). Let me see if I can explain it a different way to you. The Bills scored 314 pts last year as team. The RBs produced 4 TDs last year equating to 24 pts of that 314. Would be nice to see that improved don't you agree, or are you satisfied with the status quo?

I don't see Josh Allen as the break the bank type.

I don't disagree there at all. Everyone is making rationale points. I just look at the Ravens for example with a QB, who like Allen, gets his share of rushing TDs. But the the RBs contribute more, 28 TDs in 2-years to our 8 TDs in years outside of the QBs. I think it's a fair question regardless of how many spears are thrown.

Well, we are always talking about improving our 19pts per game right? We draft and acquire players to improve that. Therefore; it is rationale to look at areas where we can improve that, and I believer more production from our RBs could help. If you disagree, so be it. Thanks for the response.

Did I ever mention one game? I am talking a two-year trend.

Sure is; do you care to provide a rationale opinion? Just a conversation, no need to be snarky.

That's a great point; without going back to look; I would venture at least half if not more.

Ok; so you're going to avoid the point of the thread. All good.

Yes; but what if I told you we scored less rushing TDs in 2019 than we did in 2018. 15 total compared to 13.

Nope; honest question. Do you care to imply a rational response? Do you think this is an area where if got better production, we might be even better?

If you read my initial post; I'm not taking about one game. I'm talking over two years! Like I said, the Ravens have 28 rushing TDs to our 8 TDs outside of Lamar and Josh. I think two years is enough to establish a trend. I'm just saying if we can improve this area, how much better could we be? Is that a rationale question to ask or just an overreaction?

Ok, thanks.

Try answering the question as a whole? Do think this is sufficient?

Point of my inquiry is this? Everyone knows Lamar Jackson is a threat running the ball, just like Allen. But the Ravens got 14 rushing TDs in each 2018 and 2019 not counting Lamar's contribution. That's 28 TDs compared to our 8 in two years. If we could improve that, we would improve our PPG average in my opinion.

Certainly not saying that; are you satisfied with the RB production? Perhaps you are and that's fine. Just trying to have a conversation here.

I like that thought. There's a post about Allen being 91% of the offense, but do we really want that? Don't we want that down some and RB production up some?

Good Point. Do you think we have the right style of RB for the RPO system?

How much better could be we be if the RBs produced more; that's my point?

Can you think of any runs where our RBs are breaking away runs to even score? I can't think of any.

It has now been 37 games since the start of the 2018 season, and we have a grand total of 8 rushing TDs by our RBs (4 in 2018, 4 in 2019, and 0 so far in 2020). That is slightly less than 1 for every 4 games (1:4) and to me that is unsatisfactory, even if the QB averages 1 every two games (1:2). Hopefully Moss can help with that, but the lack of RB production is really holding this team back to a certain degree in my opinion. Additionally, TDs withstanding, do opposing defenses really fear our running game? This kind of goes back to some poster's thoughts on constantly running RPOs instead of some more designed leads, counters, etc. I think Dabol really needs to figure this out. Thoughts?

He certainly can spend more time, but he can make that throw; there's plenty of tape on him making it. The one against Miami from the endzone immediately comes to mind. He just missed the throws.

See, you're doing it right now. Point Made.

The hate stems from the whole Lamar Jackson disrespect in his draft process. Fair or not, Allen was the target for all the people who felt Lamar was disrespected in the draft process. Josh had nothing to do with the Lamar disrespect, but he was the target. You even see the hate transitioned to this board from posters like @C.Biscuit97 and others who always bring up Lamar when they get challenged on their criticism of Josh. Then the pre-draft tweets solidified their hate.