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I say Allen, but most here will say Mayfield.

All depends on the G-men and whether they take Rosen at #2 - then Mayfield goes #3 to the Jets and Allen #5 to the Broncos.

Allen could fall if 1-Darnold, 2-Chubb/Barkley, 3-Rosen, 4-Chubb/Barkely and the Broncs don't take QB. That would get Allen to #11 to the Fins.

Gotta wonder if another team that needs a QB will try and jump the Bills and Dolphins @ 11. Definitely need QBs - Browns / Giants / Jets / Cardinals / Chargers / Saints / Steelers Possible QBs - Broncos / Dolphins / Saints / Steelers / Patriots / maybe even Ravens Thoughts ?

We don't move up and ... Darnold / Rosen / Mayfield are gone and ... The Cards and Chargers are still @ 15 & 17 but the Steelers or the Saints have moved up before #22 and want a QB. Allen ? Jackson ? Rudolph ? Or none of them ?

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Allen had a shoulder sprain - Rosen has had a shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder and two concussions.

Allen as Keenum's backup

He can come to camp if he brings his wife in a bikini.

Evander Kane did a lot for kids too but liked the nightlife a little too much. The Pegulas don't need any more off field distractions..

I'm sure the Steelers would be thrilled if Allen slipped down to their draft position or they could move up a few spots to get him as the heir apparent to Big Ben.

It's worth a lot - Mayock knows a little more about football ad the scouting process than anyone on this board.

Don't want Rosen - one head hit away from being out of football and a spoiled entitled SoCal attitude in a blue collar town.

Stidham might not come out next year.

The new Joe Namath

Yeah, Rosen never does anything wrong ...

I'd rather see the Bills take him and he turns into Elway.

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I give him until the end of the summer before he pulls an Evander Kane on Chippewa.

Yep, appreciate the info. Russell Wilson had some accuracy issues his 1st 3 years at NC State before transferring to Wisconsin. Wilson must've fixed something or did he just have a better set of receivers or throw shorter passes @ Wisconsin ? Stafford improved by almost 10 percentage points from soph to senior. Allen is coming out a year early, so we'll never know how his senior year might have been. If Allen throws 500 passes in a year in the NFL, to go from 56 to 60% is 20 more completions. I'd like to think an NFL team with better receivers might help those numbers. I'd be equally concerned with Allen's ability to read defenses and avoid interceptions.

He said it's up to Allen to fix hi footwork issues here ... mechanics in any sport can be fixed with enough proper reps. See pro golf as an example. http://www.profootballweekly.com/2017/05/13/greg-gabriel-breaking-down-wyoming-qb-josh-allen/a3yfeoe/

Maybe so, but immature is immature. He might grow out of that type of behavior, but he might not given a wheelbarrow full of cash. Rosen has a sense of entitlement with the lineage he has, hot tub in the dorm room, yard decorations, etc. All of that crap may be fine at the college level, but might not fly in the pros. I don't see it from Darnold or Allen.

I don't want any QB with a personality remotely similar to Johnny Manziel, be it Rosen or Mayfield. Behind Baker ... seriously from a guy who's never played a game in the NFL ?

Not sure it applies to Rosen, but something to be said for having a secure financial future whether you make it or not in the NFL.

I'm betting bust - wait until that personality meets a little cash. Buffalo ain't big enough for Broadway Baker.