Inigo Montoya

I didn't recognize it was Jim Kelly at first when I saw the picture, it finally dawned on me a couple of minutes later that it was him. Give Jim some time to get some beer and wings back in his system and put some weight on, and he'll be back to his old self. That man is tough as woodpecker lips. He'll beat this too. He knows we're all pulling for him.

Dez must be getting desperate. I imagine Buffalo has got to be near the bottom of his "Places I'd Like To Play" list...

I am on a one man crusade to end the charade of "boneless wings" that is spreading across America like a zombie pox. They are not "boneless wings", the damn things are chicken nuggets. It just doesn't sound as cool for a gruff looking lumberjack to turn to his buddy and say, "Ned, lets head down to the bar and knock back a few cold ones and eat some chicken nuggets...."

I think we all just need to accept that we are going to take a step backwards this year. We are right in the middle of a rebuild despite our recent playoff cameo. McBeane fortified the defense and grabbed their qb this year. I think next year they will focus on the offense in free agency and the draft. The following year, the 2020 season, year 3 of the Beane Era, hopefully we will be a team ready to compete consistently. Hopefully that will be the same year that Tom Terrific hangs up the cleats. This team has some holes on it's roster this year, no doubt about it. I hate to think about two more seasons of 7-9 football in Buffalo, but if that's what it takes to build a winning foundation for this franchise for the next decade, I think it will be worth it. It's been twenty years since we had a good team. I can wait two more.

I agree. He may be our Wes Welker. He was injured and I think that kept him from breaking out onto the national radar. He is one of those shifty water bug receivers that is so hard to cover off the line. That first step is so fast they have separation almost immediately. Could come in handy for a QB behind an O line that can't give him a lot of time for routes to develop.

I'd like to see the Buffalo dropping some organic matter out of its backside onto a small Patriots helmet.

Some other questions I have about Terry Pegula now that we're asking... Why does Terry Pegula list his business address as Area 54, Nevada Desert? Also, was Terry Pegula in Dallas, Texas on the early afternoon of November 22nd, 1963? And lastly, does Terry Pegula have six fingers on his right hand?

It's hard enough for a young player transitioning to the pros and dealing with being under the media microscope when you become the "Face of the Franchise." It's even more difficult when the local sports media decides that you are a bust before you have taken a single snap and begin to champion your down fall. For all the talk of how great the Bill's Mafia is, there are definitely segments of it that have been scarred by the last twenty years and seem to enjoy complaining about how bad the Bills are more than they enjoy cheering them on.

I think that is right. They asked Beane if Allen was their first choice and he declined to answer the question. Leads me to believe that Darnold was their first choice. I don't imagine Mayfied was ahead of Allen too, but you never know. Clearly Rosen wasn't. I give kudos to Beane for not lying and saying that Allen was first on their board when he wasn't. It would have been easy for him to lie and say Allen was first. I respect people who shoot straight and this was an instance where it would have been easier for him to lie... and he didn't. I have really been impressed with Beane and McDermott. Not just their football moves as far as the roster goes, but also the straight forward way they conduct themselves. For the first time in a long time, I feel like we have a management team that can be successful. I'm optimistic for the future.

I think McBeane is more willing to risk upsetting the fan base and keep Allen on the sidelines because they have the solid backing of the owners, who they ultimately answer to. Cases in point, the moves with Dareus, Darby, and Watkins. All moves that were met with more than a little WTF? by the fans but that McBeane thought was in the long term interest of the Bills. I suspect that McBeane believes letting Allen develop a little while behind McCarron is also in the long term interest of the Bills.

I haven't read the entire thread so I apologize if I am repeating what has already been posted above. I have been saying repeatedly in the lead up to the draft that what's just as important as selecting the right QB in the draft, was putting that QB in a position to succeed. There are probably dozens of QB prospects who have washed out of the league who could have been successful if they had gone to a different team with different coaches. That's what I worry about with Allen. If Allen starts this year, is he stepping into a situation that will hurt his development more than the game day experience will help him? Look at the disastrous Peterman fiasco last year. I don't think he will ever be the same. It would be nice if we had a better supporting cast around Allen before he steps on the field. Playing with confidence at the QB position is vital. Going out there Sunday after Sunday and getting crushed is not going to help him develop. Everyone talks about how great the Bill's Mafia is, but as anyone who frequents this board knows, there are a lot of Mafioso who can also be callous jerks, and after the controversy surrounding his selection this year, you know there will be a small, but very loud group of Bill's supporters who will take every opportunity to bash Allen mercilessly. Unfortunately, I think a lot of our local sport's media are in that hater group. Let's put a roster around Allen that will support him, not a roster that he will need to carry. Like most here, I think next year's roster will be much stronger after a year of all of our rookies getting some playing time, another draft class of talent coming in, and key free agent acquisitions. Most importantly, it will give Allen a chance to continue working on his mechanics, learn the play book, learn how to prepare for Sundays, and hopefully be able to experience some success when he finally does hit the field. We have invested a lot to get Allen, now we need to do everything we can as a franchise to maximize his chance to succeed, and I think that means sitting for a while and giving him time to work on his game before he is thrown out there.

I think it's just staying true to "The Process". Every position on this team needs to be open to competition and may the best man win. QB should be no different. Having said that, I hope AJ wins the competition and Allen has some time to sit and develop before he starts. I wouldn't mind if he sits the entire season...

I have absolutely no idea who this guy is, but he does bear a passing resemblance to Kyle Williams, and that's more than enough for me!!! Fantastic pick!!!

I agree, let him sit this year. It’s not just about picking the right qb, it’s about putting him in a situation to succeed. Wait a year, shore up the roster with your cap space money next year ($100MM+) and another solid draft. Then bring him in and have him play with a roster that can support him, not one that he will have to carry. We just made a big investment in Allen. Let’s not Peterman him.

Pegula saved our Bills. Like most Bill's fans my age (48), I watched Ralph get older and older and knew that sooner or later he would pass and we would become another Cleveland or Baltimore and lose our team, but unlike them, we were never going to get them back. Terry and Kim stepped in and saved our team and our city. Without the Bills, Buffalo becomes another Toledo. The Buffalo Bills are the heart and soul of our city. I know that most self made billionaires are "morons", but maybe in his case, with what he's done for our community, you might find it in your heart to cut the man some slack...

I know press interviews don't win games in the NFL so please don't say I'm equating the two... Contrast Allen's interviews with Rosen's. Rosen is a jerk. Allen sounds humble. Some compare Rosen's attitude to Rodgers and I think that is pretty accurate. The thing is that Rodger's attitude has emerged just over the last few years as he became one of the best QBs in football. I don't remember the rookie, never took a snap in the league Aaron Rodgers running his mouth like this. Aaron Rodgers has earned the right to be snarky. Rosen hasn't. One thing is undeniable, Allen and Rosen are going to be joined at the hip going forward here in Buffalo. Their careers will be compared constantly and one of them is going to be found lacking. It's never a fair comparison because they are landing in completely different situations, but that won't matter.

I think one reason to wait until a full year has transpired before putting Allen in is that I think next year's roster should be a lot more stocked with talent to support him. They will have a full compliment of picks, likely near the top of the draft, and over $100MM in cap space to put some studs on the O-line in front of him and some talented WRs out there to catch the ball. We are in a rebuild, don't doubt it. We were fortunate to get in the playoffs last year and it was great that we did, but I expect our record to take a step or two backwards this year. It is just as important to put a young QB in a position to succeed as it is to draft the right QB. In a year I think we will have a roster to help Allen succeed, not a roster that he will be expected to carry.

I am agnostic on the Allen pick, I have no idea if he is going to be any good or not. I do think you have a valid point about the support system for QBs in Buffalo. I would feel better about having a developmental QB prospect if we had anyone on the Bill's coaching staff who had successfully helped develop a QB before. I hope Terry, Kim, and McBeane address this situation ASAP.

I apologize if you find my post "useless" and "unnecessary". I admit, I did express a crazy opinion that maybe we should wait until Allen actually takes an NFL snap before we decide if he is a bust or not. I realize that I may not be as skilled at QB evaluation as other anonymous posters on a message board. I should have just sided with the majority here who have already declared him a bust. No doubt about it. It's a certainty. No chance for success. Wasted pick. Case closed. No dissent will be tolerated without labeling it as "useless" and "unnecessary". You might have noticed I never predicted Allen will be great or even good in my post. Just that I think those declaring him a bust might be a tad premature in their judgement. If you feel like you don't need to wait a year or two to see if an NFL draft pick is a bust or not, I would respectfully suggest, sir, that your posts are more "useless" and "unnecessary" than mine.

I don't pretend to know if Allen will be successful or not. I wasn't an Allen guy before the draft. In some previous posts I stated that I don't follow college football closely enough or have the knowledge base to have an informed opinion on who the best QB prospect in this draft is. I said I would put my trust in McBeane, root for who ever they ended up drafting, and hope for the best. I have no idea if Allen will be a great QB for us or not. What I am absolutely certain of is that no one here knows that he won't be either. That's my point... Thanks for your civil reply, I know my point of view on this subject is not the prevailing one.

People are so upset about the Josh Allen pick like they know with certainty that he will fail, as if they have a time machine and have already seen his entire career play out. This board is bordering on hysterics. Kurt Warner didn’t even get drafted and he’s in the Hall. Ryan Leaf #2 overall and was an epic fail. Tom Brady, sixth rounder, GOAT. Sam Bradford, #1 pick, highest paid player in NFL history, no rings, and at the end of the day a professional journeyman QB. But we're all supposed to believe that Allen is going to fail and there is no doubt about it. The pick is a disaster. He has no chance to be successful. Zero. Fit Josh Rosen for his gold jacket right now. Josh Allen will be selling life insurance in Tonawanda in five years. I’d appreciate if one of you people here who can see the future so clearly on this NFL fan message board would send me a private message, I’ve got some money to invest and I want to retire early. Of course, it makes you wonder why they even come to this message board or bothered watching the draft. With their Nostrodamus like abilities they already knew we were going to pick Josh Allen tonight....

People are so upset about the Josh Allen pick like they know with certainty that he will fail, as if they have a time machine and have already seen his entire career play out. This board is bordering on hysterics. Kurt Warner didn’t even get drafted and he’s in the Hall. Ryan Leaf #2 overall and was an epic fail. Tom Brady, sixth rounder, GOAT. Sam Bradford, #1 pick, highest paid player in NFL history, no rings, and at the end of the day a professional journeyman QB. But we're all supposed to believe that Allen is going to fail and there is no doubt about it. The pick is a disaster. He has no chance to be successful. Zero. Fit Josh Rosen for his gold jacket right now. Josh Allen will be selling life insurance in Tonawanda in five years. I’d appreciate if one of you people here who can see the future so clearly on this NFL fan message board would send me a private message, I’ve got some money to invest and I want to retire early. Of course, it makes you wonder why they even come to this message board or bothered watching the draft. With their Nostrodamus like abilities they already knew we were going to pick Josh Allen tonight....

I’m happy, got a great prospect, didn’t sell the farm to get him...

That's a possibility, they may be tweaking the Jets who see their Mayfield slipping away. The Browns might be willing to trade back to 3 and grab a QB there in exchange for the Jet's 2019 first rounder.... This is getting crazy. I just need this draft to be over already...

The Browns might believe Allen has the highest ceiling and they don't mind sitting him for an entire year to work on his game. The fact that Dorsey went out and spent the first pick in the third round to grab TT is one indicator that they will be patient with their rookie QB. At the time they traded for TT a lot was said about how they overpaid for TT, but if their plan all along was to sit the rookie and let him develop, getting a serviceable starting QB was essential. They had to get a QB who could win some games for the Browns this year. I think Dorsey understands they can't have another one or two win season this year because the clamor to start the rookie QB would become too great. With TT in the fold, they can take Allen and give him time to develop.