Inigo Montoya

Good morning Don, Tre' White, Gilmore, Taron Johnson, Poyer and Hyde would be far and away the best secondary in a pass happy NFL. I'd pay Gilmore $10 mm on a one year deal to play here and try to win a championship. His issues with the Bills are not with the current regime and I don't think there is cause for any bad blood from Beane's point of view with Gilmore. I think Gilmore is the best vet CB who is still on the market and would be more than adequate as the Bills CB2. I hope they make a deal and bring him in. I started a thread two weeks ago about kicking the tires on Gilmore and I still think it would be a great signing for the Bills.

I'm not sure how good Poyer is all by himself, but when he is on the field with Hyde, that duo is the best in the NFL. A big part of it is how well they know the system and how well they play off each other. I think losing Poyer will make Hyde less effective too. I hope we can find the money to resign Poyer. Our safety duo is the foundation of the entire defense. I'd rather lose Edmonds than Poyer.

Gilmore played for $7 million last year with the Panthers. I think people may be over estimating what it would take to sign him.

Hey Chas, No doubt about it that Sammy was a big swing and a miss. I have more faith in Beane than Whaley though. It should be an interesting Draft night. 🍻

We could kick those 13 seconds around for the next ten years and never figure out how the hell that happened. I personally still don't like thinking about it, it still makes me feel like I got punched in the gut. Maybe a healthy Tre in the game makes the difference? We'll never know. Getting another Tre White on the roster would surely increase the margin of error for this team though. If McDermott believes there is another Tre in this draft, I wouldn't have any issue with Beane going up to get him.

Hey SC, That is definitely the other side of the coin and I can't say that I'm right and you're wrong on this, just differing opinions. Every year is different, but I think it's fair to say that Cincy, Chargers, and Phins are going to get better. Cleveland might become a bruiser too if Watson returns to form. Wilson makes the Broncos legit. I'm not for blowing up the salary cap like the Rams seem to do every year, but trading some draft capital seems like a reasonable step when we are knocking on the door. None of us knows what the future holds, but I think it's fair to say that right now we have the most talented roster in football, which to me is all the more reason to push some more chips into the center of the table this year and try to win it all while we have this roster. The more talent you have the less you have to depend on luck.

It's hard to get over how last year ended as it really was a great opportunity to win a Super Bowl, but this season is probably going to be as good as it gets for a while in the AFC as far as the Bills making a Super Bowl. -Watson will likely miss part of the year in Cleveland -New regime in Miami will take some time to find their grove with a talent loaded roster -Chiefs will have to adjust offense to not having Tyreek -Wilson will need some time to get used to his new offense. -Burrow will probably keep getting better as the years go on, better to face him now than later. -Herbert is in the same situation as Burrow, and I expect him to keep getting better -Lastly, and most importantly, the Bills have a Super Bowl roster right now and an elite QB who is capable of winning it all. Time is not our ally, the AFC is catching up. It isn't a Conference with just the Bills and Chiefs anymore. This thing is wide open and the distance between all these teams is only going to get smaller as the young QBs get better. I'd trade a high pick from next year to get a great player now who can make a difference this year when we have the best chance to win it all. It's not going all in ala the Rams, but it would be a big move by Beane to show he recognizes that the path to a Super Bowl is only going to get harder moving forward and this year might be our best chance to get it done.

Thanks, I'll go back and change it. Appreciate the heads up.

This may not be a popular opinion but I'm hoping we don't have too many primetime games this season. It would be nice for the Bills to get a 1 pm EST rhythm going. Primetime games usually result in a short week and I'd rather the other marquise teams get the lion's share of those games. I'm not very hopeful though, Josh Allen is just too damn entertaining for his own good. I think this is the year the unrecruited / JUCO QB and pistachio farmer in Buffalo becomes one of the faces of the NFL.

I'd obviously love it if we swept the Chiefs, Rams, and Bengals... but I think winning two of those three games would be great. I'm curious to see what the schedule looks like. Let's hope the Bills aren't playing those guys on a short week or playing one of those teams with them coming off their bye week. The date of the NFL schedule release hasn't been announced yet, but it's usually a few weeks after the Draft.

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/executive-decision/early-action-nfl-win-totals-analyzed https://www.buffalobills.com/schedule/future-opponents Vegas has the early over under number of wins for the Bills this season at 11 1/2. So far the betting action is moving to the "over" side of that equation. Home opponents; AFCE Packers Vikings Steelers Browns Titans Away opponents; AFCE Ravens Bengals Bears Lions Chiefs Rams If we go 5-1 in the division we should win these five games and get us to 10 wins; Steelers Browns (Brissett or Watkins is the question) Bears Vikings Lions That means we would need to win two of the following games to hit the over at 12 wins; Packers Titans Bengals Chiefs Rams Ravens If we can sweep the AFCE that gives us one more game we can lose and still hit the over of 12 wins. I would bet the over.

I worry Lamar might end up getting screwed like Gordie Howe, making a fraction of what he should have, because he doesn't have anyone who understands the money game looking out for him. He needs to get a real agent.

Now we have two Bills’ rules, the Tasker Rule, the gunner can’t run down the sideline out of bounds and renter the field and make the tackle, and now the Josh Allen Rule.

Yeah, it's a bit of a head scratcher... I'm certainly not clamoring for more Jared Goff.

"For those Miami fans revved up and thinking the Fins will be going toe-to-toe with the Bills for AFC East supremacy this year, I bring you this factoid: Buffalo and Miami met three times in calendar year 2021 (including the final game of the 2020 season on Jan. 3, 2021). The Bills won by 30, 35 and 15 points, an average of 26.7 points per game. Maybe Tyreek Hill can add four touchdowns a game against the Bills." https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/28/nfl-overtime-rule-tyreek-hill-trade-fmia-peter-king/?utm_int=Edge1248 Touche'

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/1864/jarvis-landry 1. Wow! 2. Glad we got Crowder for $2 million 3. Landry still has game. Not sure he has that much game. 4. Some WR needy team (Chiefs / Packers, etc.) will probably come close. 5. I'd be curious to know what Beasley is asking for.

This was my response in a similar thread on the Diggs situation earlier today; I would hate to see Diggs leave Buffalo. He's a great wide receiver and has been a big part of turning this franchise around. Having said that, look at the list of WRs who have had career years with Josh throwing them the ball; Zay Jones had his career year catching balls from a rookie Josh Allen in 2018. So did Robert Foster. John Brown has his career best season during his first year with Josh in 2019. Beasley has a career year in 2019 with second year Josh throwing him the ball, and then surpasses those numbers the following year in 2020. 2020 is the year Diggs comes to town and what does he do? He has his best season ever. Look at McKenzie and Gabe Davis. I don't think their success is a coincidence either. Just one example, look at those ridiculous sideline throws to Gabe Davis all last year. What other QB could make those throws, running for his life, and still putting the ball EXACTLY where it needs to be to give Davis a chance to pull it in? We're they great catches by Davis? Absolutely. Does Davis even have a chance to make those catches if someone else is throwing him the ball? Not a chance in hell. The common theme here is who is slinging these guys the rock. I think Josh is the kind of QB that elevates the WRs on the roster just like Brady did for all those years in New England. Josh doesn't need a Davante Adams or Tyreek Hill to help elevate his game, it's the other way around. We don't need superstar WRs to come here, I think we just need solid WRs and Josh will do the rest. I really hope we find a way to keep Diggs, but I don't think it's a catastrophe if we can't. As long as we have 17 our passing game will be in good shape.

I would hate to see Diggs leave Buffalo. He's a great wide receiver and has been a big part of turning this franchise around. Having said that, look at the list of WRs who have had career years with Josh throwing them the ball; Zay Jones had his career year catching balls from a rookie Josh Allen in 2018. So did Robert Foster. John Brown has his career best season during his first year with Josh in 2019. Beasley has a career year in 2019 with second year Josh throwing him the ball, and then surpasses those numbers the following year in 2020. 2020 is the year Diggs comes to town and what does he do? He has his best season ever. Look at McKenzie and Gabe Davis. I don't think their success is a coincidence either. Just one example, look at those ridiculous sideline throws to Gabe Davis all last year. What other QB could make those throws, running for his life, and still putting the ball EXACTLY where it needs to be to give Davis a chance to pull it in? We're they great catches by Davis? Absolutely. Does Davis even have a chance to make those catches if someone else is throwing him the ball? Not a chance in hell. The common theme here is who is slinging these guys the rock. I think Josh is the kind of QB that elevates the WRs on the roster just like Brady did for all those years in New England. Josh doesn't need a Davante Adams or Tyreek Hill to help elevate his game, it's the other way around. We don't need superstar WRs to come here, I think we just need solid WRs and Josh will do the rest. I really hope we find a way to keep Diggs, but I don't think it's a catastrophe if we can't. As long as we have 17 our passing game will be in good shape.

I think this hurts the Chiefs more than it helps the Phins. On the whole I think this is a win for the Bills. I don't think Hill is worth three TDs which is about how much we typically beat the Phins by. In a perfect world Hill would have gone to the NFC, but you can't have everything....

The interviewer is a doctor / nutritionist who's podcast is about healthy living and achieving high performance levels. Asks a lot of great questions about the Buffalo Bills and Josh's mental and physical approach to quarterbacking in the NFL. The podcast is sponsored by the American Pistachio Growers so there's a brief section where they show some clips from when Josh was at a Pistachio growers convention. Most of it is football focused though. Definitely a great watch / listen

You guys may be right. But looking at his last four seasons he hasn't been making as much money as I expected he would. According to Over the Cap he has made 9, 10, 14, and 7 million dollars over the last four seasons. When you look at those numbers a fully guaranteed $10 million isn't that unreasonable. https://overthecap.com/player/stephon-gilmore/255/

Beane never likes to go into a draft with a whole in the roster. Our CB position is the last glaring need in our roster. Levi is gone and there's a good chance Tre won't be finished rehabing his knee before the start of the season. The available free agent CBs are getting pretty thin; Gilmore, Joe Hayden, Kyle Fuller, Patrick Peterson, Xavier Rhodes, Tavon Young, Chris Harris, Janoris Jenkins are still out there. Of all those guys I think Gilmore has the most juice left. He is coming off that big contract with the Pats that was paying him $10+ million a year and then signed with the Panthers last year for just $7 million. I'm sure he is looking for another big multi-year deal but he may not get one. If he doesn't, he might be willing to bite on a one year prove it deal in Buffalo and then look to cash in next year. Buffalo would be an ideal spot for a one year prove it deal. He would likely be playing on a team with a lead in the 4th quarter with opposing QBs pressing to score some points. He would also likely be lined up on the opponent's WR2 when Tre gets back. That sounds like a great situation to start stacking some interceptions. I know a lot of people here don't like Gilmore because of how he left Buffalo, but that was with the old regime, and honestly, the old regime was a dumpster fire and I don't blame him for wanting to go to a real franchise. If Beane can swing a one year deal on Gilmore I think that would put us over the top. A secondary of Tre, Gilmore, Poyer, Hyde, and Taron Johnson would be scary. A one year $8-10 million fully guaranteed contract and a chance at a Super Bowl just might just get it done.

Getting the #1 seed won't be critical, but it will provide an "amazing advantage"? My point is that the "amazing advantage" is even larger now because there isn't going to be an easy out for whoever sits in the 2nd or 3rd seed in the AFC now. There isn't going to be a scrub team like the Steelers last year backing into the playoffs in the AFC anymore. I think our opinions are actually pretty close on this. 🍻

Home field is nice but the point is getting a free pass into the Divisional round. Sitting in the #2 seed in the AFC means playing the 7th seed and who on that list of QBs do you want to play? Which one of those QBs is an easy out? A team like Pittsburgh isn’t getting into the playoffs next year in the AFC, not any more. The 7th seed in the AFC is going to have a Burrow, Jackson, Watson, or Herbert. There aren’t going to be any easy Wild Card matchups in the AFC anymore.

With the continued stockpiling of elite talent in the AFC, it will make running the gauntlet to the Super Bowl even more difficult. Getting the #1 seed in years past was always looked at in the context of your team getting an extra week to heal up before the start of the playoff push. Now with Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Jackson, Watson, Wilson, and Burrow all in the AFC, there isn't a single easy out to be had. That's a real Murderer's Row. Derek Carr with Adams, Waller, and Renfrow won't be an easy out either. Getting an automatic ticket to the Divisional Round means one less game against one of these QBs and that has to be the focus of the Bills this season. We can't have another Pittsburgh or Jacksonville game this year. The Bills will have the big advantage of playing in the weakest division in the AFC and they need to run the table or go no worse than 5-1 in division play. Josh and company need to come out of the gate strong and start stacking wins. Getting that #1 seed and first round bye in the playoffs is going to be critical for the next decade in this crazy deep AFC if the Bills are going to win a championship.