formerlyofCtown

Me and most of the NFL disagree with you but I have read that some teams feel the same.

I would rather have Mayfield because he is my #1 QB. Allen is my number 2.

Jackson's 13 on the Wonderlic was impressive.

I understand your point but if we got Lattimore and NO got White then White would have got DROY and the Pro Bowl.

It does appear that there's a lot of quality depth at positions of need for us in this draft and not a lot of elite talent, That is a solid take.

Or John Elway.

If I were the Browns GM I would trade Josh Gordon, and 1and 4 to the bills for Jordan Mills and Buffalo's QB coach.

If Allen gets past 4 I'm calling everyone between 4 and 12. I wouldn't risk letting him fall to 12. As for staying at 12 and he falls there I'm all over him. If he is gone I have no problem taking Rudolph there. I have Rudolph as my 3rd QB tied with Darnold. Mayfield at 1 and Allen as my 2nd. I realise I'm not a pro but I feel Rudolph, Darnold, and Rosen are close. I have never seen a draft with so many QBs I would spend a first on. People say Rudolph is a system QB. So are Brady and Alex Smith. You just run the system they play well in. At this point I feel Darnold and Rosen have big risks. Darnold doesn't take care of the ball and Rosen has serious injury concerns as well as other reasons I don't like him as a person. Sorry I am very long winded tonight lol, trying to address the critics pre-emptively. I like Rudolph but I can't argue with those two picks. But with Allen still there you would take a shot at the ceiling and draft a later round QB. After all we are keeping all of our picks. There is a part of me that would like us to stay put and also trade back into the first to make a 3rd selection on day 1.

I will say that Greenbay drafted Rogers with Favre in place. I will also say that it is the view of the Manning Family that a QB drafted that high should start. That is why Peyton and the Colts parted ways. If they take a QB a Manning release or trade is likely.

Another thing I have considered is that Gettlemen knows Beane and maybe he feels Beane and McD will field a better team than people think (Some have said first overall pick next year). After so many years of loosing I am excited and content to be patient and see what they do. They may not get the QB this year maybe they get one in 2 years or maybe QBs in next years draft turn out to be better than expected. Maybe we sign Foles next offseason to compete. It just seems like people feel like it's the end of the world if we don't get Mayfield, Darnold or Rosen. Although I feel the individual view of the QBs is a bit over-hyped I belive this draft is loaded with QBs that have a good chance of success. I am more nervous about our QB coach than not getting one of the popular top 4. I believe most QBs fail due to an inability of a team to lead them to success. Look at Kurt Warner he was great with the Rams and then sucked with the Rams and then in the SB with AZ. Brees was good in SD and HOF in New Orleans. Ryan Leaf was a great college QB, he got drafted by SD and bombed. Manning didn't want to go to SD may have also had something to do with there organization. Sometimes I think Marone ruined EJ. People want to blame or lack of a QB for our struggles but I think it has been cheap coaches and GMs brought in by a Buffalo loyal but cheap owner. I also don't believe our Team is as bad as people think. The players we have aquired have had success in the past and McD seems to be Belicheckian in getting production out of players.

the giants want a QB or Chubb. Chubb will have a Gold Jacket some day. They may also feel than Barkley is the key to Manning being successful. Some may think it's dumb but if they think they can fix their line without trading down then they may believe adding Barkley puts them over the top. Consider what the bills had in Thurman, Kelly and Reed or consider what we had in Bruce. Those players where a big part of a dynasty. Manning, Barkley and OBJ is really scary and this draft is deep at interior OL. They may feel a weak middle has made their Tackles look bad. I have heard that a lot but the only arguement that might make a small amount of sense is they are in the same market but NY/NJ is a big market and the Yankees and Mets have made trades.

not a reach bud alot of teams have him #1 on there board. they are not professional scouts such as yourself but maybe they are right.

can I get some of what your smoking.

i would love this.

I was wondering what Rudolph scored.

Don't we have this thread every year.

Actually I read that 25 is the desired score and that anything above that is irrelevant. Whether that's accurate or not I don't know.

I kinda thought there were 2 different draft value charts that people used. A dollar is still a dollar. What changes is the premium or you could say the profit desired. One team may overpay while another may set a certain premium. If the same player is still available Beane may give up the same but I doubt it. It's not very likely he will give the same value for 5 as he offered for 2 if the story is true.

Just pointing out that the poster thinks we would be willing to give the same value for 5 as was offered for 2.

You realize that 12, 22 and 53 are the same value as 12, 22 and 2019 1st.

We should have done Brock Osweiller trade with his fat ass.

You trusted us LOL.

I use the magic 8ball while I treat myself to an 8ball.

Ok. My sources are the posters on this board. That is why I'm wrong most of the time.

They say that shoe size thing is a myth, but hand size may correlate. Oh that's not what you mean, sorry.