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a couple of thoughts on kicking, OL and pass rush OL - injuries have piled up. With Morse and Ty healthy you can go Dawkins- Feliciano - Morse - Ford - Ty If Morse is a no go you can still go Dawkins - Spain/Teller - Feliciano - Ford - Ty. I'm surprised Teller is not getting looks at RG/LG with the 1s or much time with the 2's. IMO he was the most improved OL last year D Wesley ended up playing 3/4 of the game all at LT. With the other injuries to T, and was ok. The 4 OT end up being Dawkins, Ty, Wesley and Ford (kicking out from OG) DL - the ones and 2s had a couple of sacks. Carolina also had 4 holding penalties in the first half. Those are instances where the OL was beat and held the DL to prevent a QB hit. While a 10 yd penalty and repeat of down is not as good as the 5-10 yds lost and loss of down with a sack, they can be drive killers and show the DL was beating the OL. 1st string looked better with the pass rush, 2nd string DL looked better at setting the edge versus the run IMO. K - I tried to pay attention to the PK holding. I could have sworn the laces were rarely out for Hauschka's kicks. I'd like some other folks to watch the ball being placed and held on kicks to verify what I saw. That may be a part of the problem

You may have been making a very dry joke about the wording about a guy with a Jones foot injury and 'taking steps', in which case I see what you did there If a serious question it's been covered here a bit, buy he can choose to let the injury heal naturally, which probably means a lost season, but no surgery (14-20 weeks) He can have surgery and the recovery time is 6-8 weeks, but this injury and surgery are notorious for not being successful on the first attempt. Dez, Juio, Sammy 'tenderfoot' Watkins, and Edelman all elected to have surgery but needed a second one. Even after a second surgery Dez and Sammy were not the same player. Edelman and Julio came back to pre-injury form, but it took a year. touch choice for a guy who played at an all-pro level in his rookie season, and has his whole career ahead of him

Its up to 7.5, biggest movers in Vegas

I was watching the holds on kicks. The missed fg the laces looked to be facing the right side line, not how you place a ball for a kick. It's hard to kick a football with the laces all akimbo. Carter was holding. They need to get Barkley holding for House-money, and then figure out the punting mess.

Christian Freaking Wade! a health 50 yards per touch average.... slippery as an Albany politician

this is correct, Buff has a legitimate 1st and second strong DL and DB set. Some good players at DL and DB will be cut

yup. Carolina held McCaffrey, Cam and Keuchly out, but Buffalo has outplayed Carolina in all three phases so far

Teller graded out as Buffalo's highest rated O lineman last year. Crazy he is not in for the G competition.

I've been watching the holder and football this game, the laces are almost never straight as they should be, Carter is still moving the ball half the time Hauschka is kicking it. Need to get a steady holder in their. Barkley?

Lacey has had a great game

you can tell he plays with some nasty, like to hit people, I really like him as the last corner

Dean Marlowe and his helmet collided on a tackle He looked like he had his bell rung when he was walking off the field

McKenzie was drafted by Denver, never played for the Panthers

This thread has devolved into nonsense. To the OP's point, few if any. A few examples were pointed out. As an analyst I'm trying to figure out what the OP, or my customer meant. If the question is why Tyree on the PS?, that is a different question than will T Jackson become a successful starter in the league? Two totally different questions. Will Tyree become a stater if Buffalo stashes him on the PS. No, 99.8% no. Does Tyree offer a backup aka 'poor mans' version of your starting QB that can be developed to fill in for a game without changing the offense Yes, yes he does. For that reason alone he will earn a PS position if he shows anything in preseason.

ok, nice angle OP. Let's slow the roll. True no other team has moved so much as Buffalo in Las Vegas. They started at 6.5 over under to 7.5. That is tremendous movement! But it means adjusting to league average. This team is solid 8-8 to 10-6 material. I think if everything goes wrong (Morse out, another bad injury, no one new shows etc) this team is 7-9 to 8-8 good. If this roster stays healthy, and gets a few bounces of the ball 10-6 even 11-5 is possible. In the middle is 8-8 to 9-7, which is where I think this team ends up. Hey the 1987 Bills were 7-8 but were building a team. No one is picking up coaches from a 7-9 to 9-7 team after 6-10 season. it will take a few 10-6 or better seasons before our assistant coaches get picked up. Until then enjoy what is top to bottom one of Buffalo's better coaching staffs in the last decade. This team at 7-9 or 8-8 is a bit of a disappointment. 9-7 to 10-6 we see progress, and a possible run. 11+ is a bit of a pipe dream.

No, only because a DE named Yannick Ngakoue (JAX) will be an unrestricted FA next year. While everyone trips over themselves going for Clowney, McBeane should have Ngakoue on speed dial. He held out this preseason and does not seem to be too happy that he wasn't extended. He is 24 right now so will be 25 entering his 5th season as an unrestricted FA. He has 29.5 sacks in 3 years, almost 10 a year. Jacksonville drafted Josh Allen as his replacement. Jacksonville is 8 million over the cap in 2020 as of now (according to Over the cap). https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/jacksonville-jaguars/ I'll take a motivated 25 yr old averaging 10 sacks a year to be my new bookmark DE to pair on the DL with Oliver. Jax can't resign him without doing roster damage. Why lose picks and get a rental that hasn't produced, when the answer to DE is a UFA next year? And we can stick it to Marrone a bit. https://www.jaguars.com/team/players-roster/yannick-ngakoue/career (not updated for 3rd year) Originally drafted by Jacksonville in the third round (69th overall) of the 2016 NFL Draft PRO (Games played/started - 32/31, 3/3) • Made his NFL debut in team’s season opener in 2016
 • Owns the franchise rookie record for sacks in a single season (8.0)
 • Of his first 20.0 career sacks, 10 have been strip-sacks
 • His 20.0 sacks in first 32 career games are the most by a Jaguars player in franchise history
 • Led the league with six forced fumbles in 2017
 • Earned his first career Pro Bowl nod in 2017

I just watched this from the original link, its a nice condensed version

Good CB - Lafayette Pitts looked nice. If EJ Gaines can't stay healthy I want Pitts to make the roster instead OL - Feliciano. Mongo looked comfortable at center, a real nasty mauler too WR - Isiah McKenzie. Can add to the return game. Nice catches. I think he adds more than Ray Ray at a WR and KR/PR QB - Barkley looked good leading the offense with the #2s and some #3s Bad: TJ Yeldon - the fumble, quit on the Cam Phillips TD catch, not much as a runner Bodine - I was one of few that wanted to give Bodine a chance last year. He is terrible. Long and Feliciano will be asked to step up if Morse has more health issues.

I believe he was the bills highest rated O Lineman by the end of last year per PFF. I know PFF is not perfect but someone saw it, and his play last night looked terrific.

Or he is behind a Peterman Pick Six Special..... I think we should pool together and have Carr take an 'off day' to make this a reality....

Long term solution at WR and C, then we agree

Late round flyer or waiver priority guy sure. His last 6 games were FF excellent. Since Pass TDs are worth 4 in many leagues, and passing yds 1/20, having a guy who can gain 6 pt TDs and 1 pt/ 10 yds rushing is pretty good, if the QB can be even just average in passing he becomes fantasy gold. JA will be a weekly FF/ auction FF magnet like Jackson and Watson.

Injury settlements are kept private, that's why we heard little about E Wood. A concussion protocol is not a 100% lock of a concussion. But if someone has a history they will get kid gloves. Symptoms of concussion, go to the protocol. From an interesting article: https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/9/18/12940926/nfl-concussion-protocol-explained "During the offseason this year, the NFL added a measure that would punish teams that failed to properly enforce the concussion protocols. Any violation — either in-game or return-to-participation — could cost a team fines or even the forfeiture of draft picks." that was 2016, if it has changed I'm sure it is tighter, if not, Buffalo is playing it safe. This is why Paradis seemed the better FA C. Morse is a great C, but has a concussion history. Paradis is a top tier C, but had a physical injury. Buffalo rolled with Morse. If he really is this fragile for concussions, I want him to retire. As much as Josh Allen and Buffalo need a Center to grow with, it's not worth brain injury IMO. If this really is a concussion, and this would be Morse's 4th, an injury settlement should be allowed by the league if they are serious about stopping brain injuries. If it is kid gloves, we should be hopeful, but wary.

I just like pork roast... In all honesty a few good jabs, well deserved. But a lot of venom that went well beyond the football team, and this is not funny at all. Playing on 'hot takes from 2013', mocking a much needed tear down that happened the year before, playing up the debunked racist card about Josh Allen, etc is tired and just wrong. Multiple insults hurled to the good people of WNY is not funny or journalism. So all people in WNY are racist drunks? That is what I got from this piece. It's not funny, not focused on football and shows a solid level of ignorance. Hilarious /s There was so much football team material to choose from. Nate Peterman is a gold mine and this treatment was pyrite, Matt Barkley having a 'resurrection' from the witness protection program in the Meadowlands, real treatment of the Vontae Davis incident, Richie Incognito going nuts after playing for the Bills, the AARP RB combo, the special teams being 'special', two of the best 'break out' players last year being UDFAs (Foster and Wallace), Heck Robert Foster being cut-signed by no one and then being Buffalo's second best WR is gold, the O-line play from last year, signing no top end FA's and the Antonio Brown incident could have been much better, the smurfs at WR even after John Brown and Cole Beasley were signed, etc etc. But his went back to attacking the good people of WNY. I grew up in the Rochester metro. I moved away many times. WNY is not my 'ideal home'. I lived in Philly and Boston for a total of 12 years. At times I feel connected and at other times I don't. Every time I come back for family, I'm a little disappointed, a little hope filled. People here are genuinely good people, and Buffalo, Rochester etc are doing pretty well in an attempt to rebuild. They are much better off than cities outside of Philly and Boston and a lot of other rust belt areas I have seen. This felt like a horrible hit piece. Where the author could have attacked the Bills, he attacked many of us, our homes, or where we have roots. Pieces like this are not good for our communities. If it was football, NFL and Bills related I would have enjoyed the football hits more, but this went populace many times. This felt like ignorant hate and I do not like it.

Someone had to balance out Travis Henry