RocCityRoller

Even the Jets don't mess this up. Rosen in NYC at #3 makes sense. That does mean the Giants take Rosen at #2.

I see two top 10 LB, a DL and a top 10 OL in our future and then Rudolph or White in the third.

No, there is not enough difference between QB2 and QB5. For Sam Darnold, yes.

Perhaps you are being sarcastic. Since Wood retired, Glenn was traded and Henderson is gone they get former starters in the league. How dumb.

I get it, you love Josh Rosen. Everyone here does. The Bills are where they are because they refuse to draft QBs in general. No team has drafted fewer QBs in the top four rounds than Buffalo over the past 20 years. That has to change. I think it will. Buffalo is not getting Rosen. Let it go.

Is Mark Davis a burn victim??

I get the point, and though I don't agree 100% with this draft, yes I agree with building a team but still draft a QB.

no one said that buddy

Inside out NFL starters fighting for a roster spot at C and OG. Very good moves for starter and depth, though C/OG is fairly deep in this draft.

Deep C/G draft. Would be silly to pass on Price/Daniels if available in round 2-3. I also see LB being drafted early and often.

two Super Bowl wins, reloading for 3

best case scenario or potentially a draft like (Matt Miller (Bleacher Report), (NFL needs) Difficult setting: 12: R1P12 LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS VIRGINIA TECH 22: R1P22 LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH BOISE STATE 53: R2P21 QB MASON RUDOLPH OKLAHOMA STATE 56: R2P24 C JAMES DANIELS IOWA 65: R3P1 G AUSTIN CORBETT NEVADA 96: R3P32 RB RASHAAD PENNY SAN DIEGO STATE 121: R4P21 EDGE OGBONNIA OKORONKWO OKLAHOMA 166: R5P29 WR DEONTAY BURNETT USC 187: R6P13 TE TROY FUMAGALLI WISCONSIN

12: R1P12 EDGE HAROLD LANDRY BOSTON COLLEGE 22: R1P22 LB RASHAAN EVANS ALABAMA 53: R2P21 DL DARON PAYNE ALABAMA 56: R2P24 C JAMES DANIELS IOWA 65: R3P1 QB MIKE WHITE WESTERN KENTUCKY 96: R3P32 WR D.J. CHARK LSU 121: R4P21 OT GERON CHRISTIAN LOUISVILLE 166: R5P29 RB KALEN BALLAGE ARIZONA STATE 187: R6P13 CB BRANDON FACYSON VIRGINIA TECH Got the top Edge rusher (6.1 grade), top 3 LB, top 3 DL, top C, best QB prospect after Rudolph, #4 WR with 4.3 speed and 6'3" size, a swing tackle, a 6'1 227 back with 4.46 speed (KR/PR and 3rd option at RB), and a 6'2 cb with 4.53 speed Build the team, with 100 million next year you can buy a QB if McCarron, White, Peterman can't do it

Why would Cleveland trade down, when in this scenario Cleveland went Darnold/Rosen #1 and then could pair up that Qb with Barkley at #4?

and he has a shiny nose to lead a band of misfit toys to redemption, actually I like him at 22 a lot.

need a backup and camp battle at every position. Would like to go for Billy Price in second though.

So wait a minute. Getting SB MVP QB Foles, keeping #22 and having 3 second round picks is a colossal failure in your book? Bills could then package #22 and a 2nd or third to move back up in first and get the defender they want (say a stud LB) Foles, stud LB and 2-3 second round picks is your vision of failure?

Fair enough, I didn't see any mention of what pick in your post, and also the scenarios that could play out, or for what QB. I am good with a wait and see approach now, with a few contingencies built in. Another poster made a thoughtful post about the situation. If QBs go 4 in the top 10, and the highest BPA come off the board, then trade back from 12 for a later #1 and #2. Use the late 1st rounder to go after Foles, keep #22 and the third #2. Make moves/picks as warranted. Foles, 1st round LB, and three 2s to address OL, DL, WR would be pretty hot. The Jets move sucks, but Buffalo as a lot of capital to make things happen.

No we don't, and no we didn't. Indy was very clear in stating they did not want to move out of the top ten. Buffalo had no top ten pick. Not enough ammo. The Jet's did make a bold move and and sold the farm. Funny thing is now Cleveland has to draft the QB they want at #1 now. The Giants could still draft Eli's heir apparent, leaving the Jets with the 3rd QB and having not much else this year. Do you want the Bills to trade it all for potentially the #4 QB? If the Giants go QB, and the Jets have to pick a QB now, Cleveland can get Barkley to pair with their new QB of the future. Why would they trade that away? The Giants can get Eli's heir, or a stud to help Eli make one more push and ring #3. Why would they trade that away? Only if Cleveland pulls a Cleveland and doesn't draft a QB, even after the Jets have telegraphed their move, and the Giants draft Eli help to make one more run does trading for the Cleveland #4 make sense. That is quite a few 'Iffs'. You need a partner who wants what you can offer, and the draft to fall properly. I'm all for having a deal in place with Cleveland for #4 ahead of the draft, but waiting to pull the trigger until the draft unfolds. If not let the draft work itself out and see who falls to #12. If QBS go 1,2,3 a franchise Defender or O-lineman is going to fall to 12 If not a top 4-5 QB will probably fall, and the Bills could still add a DT like Payne or LB like Vander Esch at 22, or the Bills could then take a QB at 12 and move up from 22 to get the defender/ O-lineman they want. Patience grasshopper Nothing would make me happier than Browns taking Darnold, Giants taking Rosen and the Jets left with Allen/Mayfield/Jackson at #3 after blowing their draft capital this year.

you can not force another team with a top 5 pick to trade with you. The Bills did not have what the Colts wanted, a top ten pick. I would laugh my butt off if the Browns and Giants both end up taking QBs and the Jets wasted all of that draft capital to not get their guy.

like I said, that is just an example of a guy who maybe they want. It could be an OT, 3 technique DT, Edge player etc. so they went up to 12 to get whoever that it is. back to the OPs point maybe Allen and Rudolph and someone else at QB are all rated similarly and they will move from 22 with another pick/s to get that guy. Just trying to make the point the move to 12 wasn't necessarily done for a qb, maybe it was. We will see in a few weeks.

Van Der Esch was just an example of a McBeane type fit that they could have moved for. It could be any position. I just pointed to that one as a reasonable example. Maybe they have 2-3 QBs ranked all very close and are ok not spending the farm for one of them. Sam Darnold is the only guy I can really see a team sacrificing a good chunk of the draft for.

maybe they want some guy at another position that would not be there at 21? they have to draft positions other than QB maybe a guy like Van der Esch, who compares in many ways to Luke Kuechly.

RIP to a one of a kind owner, A moment to recall the Benson Boogie great reaction at 1:46

the concussions and other injuries should be checked out and are a potential red flag regardless of the other stuff imo.