RocCityRoller

I think Tim Settle would be a good apprentice for Kyle Williams to coach up

meanwhile poor Fred Jackson got screwed out of another NFLdraft, he was supposed to call one of Buffalo's 2nd round picks I don't think Reed gets bumped for the remaining third round pick.

DT Nathan Shepard to NYJ passed on Settle and Hurst

yeah that made me sick

Brett Favre?

the Bills get a heck of a LB and circle back to Tier 1.5 (Jackson, Rudolph) or 2 (Lueletta, White)

yes, but only if a guy they want falls out of the top 5 IMO

Other than Sam Darnold, I think these 2018 QBs need a solid team around them. I believe Rosen stinks as an injury prone quitter, I believe Allen can't hit the broad side of a barn. If that is a 'crusade' sign me on. We have multiples in the other camps. Even the Giants are now passing in Rosen, why? You need a solid O-line and some WR to succeed. The Bills stink in both regards. Admit it.

this is exactly my point. Thank you. No QB will succeed here behind this O-line/ WR combo. It will be worse than Indy if we trade the farm away.

this team is desperate for any KR/PR/WR they can get?

Even with a "can't miss QB" your franchise can suck.

4-12 before the draft. Love it or hate it. Top 5 pick in 2019. Discussions will be top QB or top edge rusher. How long will Beane continue?

It is a valid and recent example of what can happen, when you trade away your franchise for a great QB

Luck has yet to throw a football. He was ruined by a terrible football team. Admit the truth.

with this O-line and our terrible WRs, no. The answer is no.

This is my hope. It's the only situation Beane can hope for now.

Let me go on record to say i like McDermott a lot. I really like the guy, I think he will be a very successful NFL coach, and win multiple Super Bowls. I don't think the Bills have what it takes for even McDermott to be successful. Beane has trashed a good roster, and now has the worst dead money cap in the league, and a terrible roster to boot. This is not an accident. Beane has to be a total Wizard in the draft to approach Whaley in talent. I said it, Wahely !@#$3d up on QB, but he got the rest right. The Bills had talent all over the roster with Whaley, but he couldn't find a QB. If Beane get's the QB he is half way there, but what is the cost? Is it Rosen and a horrible O-line, and no WRs worth no 1st rnd pick in 2019? Beane is in a no win situation now. The D is weak (name 3 starting LBs) which McDermott needs to run an elite defense, the offense is in a shambles.

Did he start throwing 'The Duke' again or am I missing something? He is a QB that can't even throw a football. He was ruined in Indy. Indy's inability to build a team around Luck ruined him. No O-line and a terrible Defense ruined him. I don''t want to do that to a top prospect. Buffalo's O-line and WRs suck. Any top 5 prospect here will fail because of it. My troll post about Luck to Buffalo is worthless now. Buffalo has no O-line. Luck has yet to throw a football. He is done. Any trade from Indy for Luck would be fools gold now, as would any rookie QB in Buffalo this year.

this roster is hot garbage. 4-12 at best. Post draft is 4-12 to 6-10 at best. I like McDermott a lot as HC, but he needs some talent to help. This roster could be the worst I've seen in 30 years of being a Bills fan.

All of you are missing the point. No QB can be successful with a trash O-line and trash WR. Not to mention a garbage Defense outside of the secondary (hope Vontae Davis is healthy) The Bills now have both. It is plain as day, yet you refuse to see it. 4-12 right now at best. But hey trade everything for 'can't hit a barn Allen', 'Concussion Rosen' or 'smurf Mayfield'. Trading away 3-4 picks and next year's top 5 pick is dumb. Will you gamble on 'concussion Rosen' behind this line? He would retire in a NY minute behind this line. Maybe turnover Darnold is your pick? McBean trashed this roster. It is garbage. Let the draft fall to the Bills. They need everything right now. BPA is the way to go for multiple drafts. All they need is QB, LB, OL, WR ,DL and CB.

No, any QB behind this trash OL and WR/TE corps will look terrible. It could be Tom F*&^ Brady and they would suck. That is my point exactly.

You have some pretty rose colored glasses. Can I borrow them? This roster as it is built now stinks. OL is bad, LB is bad, WR is bad, and DL is counting on guys 'bouncing back'. This is a 4-12 team right now. I enjoyed your post. It was rational and well thought out. I think "that QB" is there at 12. I really do. And I think the team can be built up around him with the other picks. No, with a top 5 pick it is easier to move to #1 or #2. Use the bevy of picks this year to build the D front 7 and O-line and then get a QB in 2019

I know, 80% or so of TBD wants to draft a QB this year no matter the cost. I want a QB too, but pragmatism says moving up now will be devastatingly expensive. We will have an Indy style QB cripple on a weak team. Andrew Luck has yet to throw a football again.... I think this is a deep QB draft, but not a top QB draft, I see maybe three QBs in this draft being NFL worthy with one second tier QB being good. This would follow QB history. Even the 83 draft had 3 top QBs and 3 misses. No QB can succeed behind a terrible O-Line, bad WRs and a weak RB situation. Our O-line is now terrible to match the WR situation. AJ McCarron signed with the Bills with rights to Cordy Glenn at LT, Eric Wood at Center and Incognito at LG. At worst his left side was solid, but all are gone now. AJ McCarron will not only have a terrible WR corps, but will have a terrible O-line. He will get killed and fail, and fans will slaughter him, despite being in a failing situation. His O-line will suck now as will his WR corps. Any rookie QB coming into this situation will do worse if the Bills trade away their capital. Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers and even Matt Ryan would look bad behind our current line and WR situation. At best this team has one possession WR, and a gimpy TE, an ageing RB, with one solid T and a good backup C/G. We are pathetic for building up a QB to be successful. Why would any rookie QB succeed here? They would get killed. We need an O-line and some real weapons to be successful. I feel bad for AJ McCarron. He is getting a raw deal before starting. Even worse we will suck in 2018, and not have our top 5 pick in 2019 to build an Offense or Defense around because we traded it for our 'franchise QB'. Buffalo is so so far behind in talent it needs the 2018 draft to be successful, and then move. We will be a top 5 draft pick team in 2019 and can make our move.

Standing pat in multiple draft sims I got Mayfield at 12. MLB Van Der Esch at 22. Jones was my pick at first second. Ragnow as pick at the end of third or fourth. After those drafts: Jones (R) or Dawkins /Groy or Bodine or Ragnow (R)/ Bodine or Groy or Ragnow (R)/ Miller or Ducasse/ Dawkins or Newhouse or Mills If not: Dawkins/ Groy/ Bodine/ Miller or Ducasse/ Newhouse backups: T: Dawkins/ Newhouse/ Mills G: Groy/ Bodine/ Miller/ Ducasse C: Bodine/ Groy Bodine has been a starter for four years and has taken snaps with AJ McCarron. Miller can hopefully get out of the dog house. Newhouse is a failure if he is not better than Mills or Henderson. Hence in my drafts I spend two picks on OL..... No sense giving AJ a 'chance' or any rookie QB for that matter, with this O-line.

Second take, similar results. Mayfield as the QB of the future. Vander Esch as the QB of the defense. Went for the size and speed of Chark in round 2, Interior OL instead of LB in round 3, took a 4-3 DL later, CB higher, Warner to the Bills at rd 5 and ended with Roc Thomas to add youth at RB. I would love this draft. 12: R1P12 QB BAKER MAYFIELD OKLAHOMA 22: R1P22 LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH BOISE STATE 53: R2P21 OT JAMARCO JONES OHIO STATE 56: R2P24 WR D.J. CHARK LSU 65: R3P1 C FRANK RAGNOW ARKANSAS 96: R3P32 DL B.J. HILL NC STATE 121: R4P21 CB DUKE DAWSON FLORIDA 166: R5P29 LB FRED WARNER BRIGHAM YOUNG 187: R6P13 RB ROC THOMAS JACKSONVILLE STATE