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hi all,
I now have 4 tickets to practice tomorrow at New Era Field.
I will be at Darien Lake Amusement Park in Darien, NY (between Buffalo and Rochester) tomorrow around 1-2 pm.
Visit Darien Lake during the day, ride roller coasters, then see the roller coaster ride at QB at night!
I can meet anyone in the park, or at parking if needed as long as it's before 5 pm.
I also wanted to note that the Mt Read Tops in Greece NY (a suburb of Rochester) still has some tickets. (585) 663-4400. It's just off I390, take first exit to I390 from I90, then take Vintage Road Exit, head south on Mt Read, then on the right about 1/2 mile after Wegmans.
PM me, I got them for Sven, but he seems hooked up now. They are yours for free if you are willing to go to Darien.
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I'm in Rochester, and heading to Darien Lake tomorrow. if I could get them at Mount Read I would have helped out. I'm sorry....
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1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said:
I will not argue against your opinion : )
I was spouting about how awesome and game changing it would be. I also think Mack has an interest to play for Buffalo ( opinion )
But thinking for Beanes, i feel they are more conservative in FA than we might like.No question he is an immediate impact and upgrade. and I would love him a Bill.
and that why i think they won't. its more emotion for me than smarts with budget. McBeanes are on the slow roll.
Whaley would have tripped over his tongue for Mack : )I'm happy we have a healthy debate here. I respect your opinions. I know my opinion is pie in the sky. But this is the time to do a move like this. The money works out, the draft picks are there, the need is real, and the player likes Buffalo.
Name the last time a superstar NFL player on the ascendancy held out in Buffalo?? Happened to be what we need? Mentioned another player stole his roster spot in Buffalo?
I'll wait. The good karma will only last so long.
Opposed to your thought, I think McBeane showed big balls in their 1 yr tenure.
Cap wise they were strapped for FA this year. Bad contracts, trades, payouts, and cutting players hamstrung this team in FA this off season. People seem to forget the Dareus contract, Watkins, Taylor etc...
Look at last season.
Matthews went down. The FO knew a WR was needed, and they knew Benjamin was available. Maybe KB wasn't the answer but they made the move to address an issue mid-season to get a starting #1 or #2 in the NFL. That is not a timid FO.
Look at the draft.
Did McBean go for the safe option in the other Josh? No. They went up for the big armed kid who would like to play here. Will JA be a stud? I'll wait and see. But they went up for who they wanted in the face of the pundits. That is moxy.
When Edmunds fell, did they sit on their hands? No, they moved up aggressively and got Edmunds.
Not one, but two aggressive moves in the first round, in year one of the McBeane draft marriage. They were bankrupt as far as FA goes and still got Ivory, Davis, Star and Murphy. Maybe only one or two players produce, but not bad for a limited budget. Then with the little cash they had they pivoted and addressed OC and OT with Bodine and Newhouse. Miller was sitting all the while in the garage to help at OG.
Who was playing C when the Bengals beat the Ravens and put Buffalo into the playoffs? That would be Bodine. No one seems to remember that Bodine was the C for the team that helped put Buffalo into the playoffs. He also was the C for a very possible day 1 starting QB in McCarron. That is a strategic move. If Groy beats him out, aok, but if that happens Bodine may be the best backup C in the league, not a bad way to pivot with no $$$ and address an unpredictable retirement at OC.
The team was aggressive in trades last year during the season, did what they could with almost no cap space bringing in legitimate NFL players, and were very aggressive in the draft.
I have to disagree with you in principle. I don't think this FO is gun shy at all.
But I still agree it is a long shot. IMO it is worth taking.
Hell if it takes bringing Whaley in for one day to snake charm his way into getting Mack, then do it. I think he is still being paid.
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old and slow... not too worried. Who stretches the field for New England?
I know TB is not a deep ball gambler, but really, facing a team with any speed on defense, who gets chunk plays?
I think this led to NE losing the SB last year. I don't see much chunk play ability outside of Gronk and maybe White.
Maybe Sony Michael helps as an RB threat, but his knees are a legitimate concern is relied on too heavily. Then again NE plays a platoon at RB.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
I hope Phillips and Foster can contribute. I have no confidence in Dupre. 5 Star kid that had everything handed to him and accomplished nothing at LSU. If he can learn how to work like a man, he’s got the talent to stick
I agree Dupre was underwhelming in college, but name a good or even great LSU QB? Not exactly an offensive powerhouse.
I'm an admitted fanboy of Dupre. I see on the depth chart he has fewer opportunities than others to prove his worth. Even fewer than Proehl. I just have a gut feeling like I did with Hogan and Goodwin than he can be a contributor. I'm not talking a 70-1000-6, but a respectable 45-700-4 type line with Big Ben, Rogers or Rivers. A 'move' receiver who has some height and some speed. I also have a gut feeling he is one of the very few WRs on this team that can and will catch Allen's heat on full display. I think Allen is dialing it back mentally. Allen will need a guy that can and will corral anything. I see a lot of soft pass WRs on this team, who will go out and catch the Allen bullet?
Green Bay would probably like to still have him in camp. The Bills did well swooping in and grabbing him when they did.
I just like him, I hope he shows out in pre-season games.
Maybe he is the next Da'rick Rogers, but I think he needs a decent QB with a live arm and some opportunity. I want to see him and Allen together in the pre-season. I think they compliment each other.
I could be totally wrong.
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9 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:
Thank you Senator !!
And de diddly delighted to see you posting !
If Bills are EVEN considering this,
They are not going to give away the farm for him.Sure its attractive, but say he gets injured year one as a Bill. and you know he wants guarantees . Rightly so.
I would love to see him here. But i think Bills feel they have many more positions to dial in before such a major investment into Top level talent and Top Level cost.
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I disagree. Your two most likely starting QBs are on a rookie deal and a friendly late 2 year F/A deal. White, Edmunds, Phillips and Milano (yes I think Edmunds and Phillips will be studs) are also all on rookie contracts. Hyde and Poyer aren't backbreaking deals. Look at how good the secondary did without a pass rush, and a gimpy but effective EJ Gaines.
Generating regular pressure on the QB makes all of the above on defense better. Do you want to wait until you have an 80-100 million deal on a QB to try to bring in a Mack? Draft and hope to get lucky?
Nope.
Dare to dream big. Make the defense a nightmare to face. Take pressure off a new OC and scheme, and 2-3 QBs fighting to be relevant starters. Tell me Shady won't fight to the last to play hard for a team that did him right contractually, kept quiet this off season, and has the Bills within 7 points in any game.....
strike now, the iron is hot. Dare to go big.
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I'd trade next year's first and the 2nd in 2020, or next years 2nd and 1st in 2020 for a chance to trade for Mack. If the Raiders want Hughes, Murphy or Lawson do it.
If you are the Raiders you get a 1st, 2nd, player x to start at DE, potential cap relief and avoid an ugly hold out/ cap situation. You save face and can rebuild the D with the picks.
If you are the Bills you get a premier pass rusher before his prime and before he hits F/A, who loves Buffalo, while you are flush with cash. Both teams win.
If the Raiders don't bite, keep your cap fluid next year, roll over as much money as possible and give Mack an 'offer he can't refuse'. He is worth every penny.
Mack knows and loves Buffalo. No cultural shift that many other super star players experience coming to Buffalo. Heck Mack is here during his hold out.
Mack is on the upswing to the prime of his career, unlike Mario who had peaked and was going into decline, or even Reggie White going to Green Bay. This is a once in a 'Blue Moon' opportunity. Also there is absolutely no effort issues with Mack. Would Mack like to play with ascending stars like Edmunds, Hyde and White, for a defensive minded head coach who led Keuchly and Davis? I'm guessing yes.
Mack is an ELITE pass rusher, something the Bills woefully need, and could push this defense into amazing places.
Buffalo will be top 5-10 in cap space next year, allowing them to back up a dump truck of cash to make him happy long term on an extension with up front money and lessen his cap hit over terms of his contract. Has there ever been a contract where the signing bonus was worth as much or more than the contract? Players want guaranteed money, do it.
Shady didn't want to be in Buffalo, but the Bills did him right with a generous package to keep him happy, and he has been terrific. Imagine doing that for an ascending super star who wants to be here?
A LB corps of Mack, Edmunds and Milano looks terrific for the next 5 years. All young, all with their prime ahead of them, playing for a HC that loves his LBs. Not to mention Edmunds and Milano are on their rookie contracts.... When Mack's contract expires, Edmunds will only be @25 and in HIS prime. Change gears dump the money on Edmunds, rinse and repeat to draft the best Edge player again within those 5 years.
To me it is a non-issue. You make it happen.
"I woke up this morning, with a blue moon in my eyes"
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Is Nick O'Leary a world beater? No.
Is he a good depth player for a 6th round pick? Yes.
He is sneaky in route running, below par on straight line blocking and mediocre on 'move' blocking as a TE. His swim move is exellent, and he has shown some very good catching ability on or near the boundaries, which many TEs struggle with.
He is solid depth at TE, on a team that has struggled to complete traditional middle of the field passes to anyone (WR/TE/RB)
He has made some important catches for this team, and has blown some blocking assignments.
I'd like to see Buffalo address the TE position in the next 1-2 years, as it's an important safety valve for young QBs.
Clay and O'Leary are no world beaters, but we and the league have seen worse.
IMO O'Leary has been a better TE value than Lonnie Johnson who was a 2nd round pick and played with superior QB play and OC planning.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
At this point we need a WR that can suit up every week, get open and catch the ball. We currently only have one guy that I believe will do that all season. His name last name is McCoy. Might pencil in Kerley as well. Hoping KB can do that too, but I’m not very optimistic about the suiting up every week part
Keep your eyes on the young guys. Phillips, Dupre and Foster have all had some nice plays
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6 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:
Early indications point to AJM starting the season which I expected. I just hope he’s not a newer version of Trent Edwards. I have zero confidence in Peterman at this point. Hopefully JA continues improving and takes the reigns at some point in the season.
With Murphy’s injury history, no way do I throw in the towel on Lawson. Still young and basically in year two due to injury.
Was hoping Teller might push Vlad as he’s a weak link on the OL.
This is an unique year as if this team exceeds expectations, they really have a great opportunity to add playmakers and depth to the roster next year. Something we haven’t been able to say or do for years!
Agree with you 100%
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11 hours ago, PaattMaann said:
what did I miss with Zay Jones? How is he already "out for week 1" according to that site? I was under the impression he could be activated and be ready to play in preseason games, let alone week 1....someone help me here...
Also, look at that list of Baltimore injuries
I saw that too, seems a bit early for that ruling....
7 hours ago, Irv said:Complications. Frying pan cells have metastasized from his hands to his surgically repaired knee.
He did have the 1st or 2nd most uncatchable targets last year per PFF. Who exactly did Tyrod make look good in his time here?
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Was thinking this would be an ok signing, but feel like we kind of got the same player in Jeremy Kerley , and Kerley is younger and shiftier.
I also was banging the drum for Dupre, Reilly and Foster (not to mention McCloud and Proehl) to develop some chemistry with our new QBs, so going on a soap box to sign Lafell would be a bit hypocritical.
Who knows what is going on with Zay Jones?
If an injury to WR happens during TC, or Zay is going to battle his offseason injuries longer than we think then yeah I could see it.
He makes a nice #2-#3 but I really, truly think some of the answers to WR are already on the roster, we just don't know it yet.
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4 hours ago, Buftex said:
Rediculous. Why was it Andre Reeds fault, "period"? Why not Darryl Talley, and the 3 other Bills who whiffed on tackles as Mark Ingram killed them on 3rd &22, and helped the Giants, essentially hold the ball for the entire 3rd quarter...or Jim for throwing a meaningless pass for 2 yards, to Keith McKellar, which wasted about 8 seconds on the clock during the final drive? Or hell, why not Keith McKellar for not having the prescense of mind to "drop" that same pass, inistead of making a great effort for the shoe-string catch? Of mayve blame Jim for getting a little pass-happy on that final drive, when Thurman was having an MVP type game. Blaming Reed for the loss,, "period" is absurd. The Giants/Bellechiks' defense game plan in 25 was to punish the Bills WR's. To their credit, they did...look at the boxscore for that game. Reed caught 8 passes for 62 yards....Lofton caught 1 pass for 61 yeards. McKellar 2 for 11. The Giants were determined to shut down the Bills potent passing game...and they did for the most part. Plenty of mistakes made that day...Andre Reed was far from the only reason they lost.
The third and 22 in Super Bowl XXV is to me the seminal play. Bruce, Biscuit, Talley and Smith allowed that to happen, not Andre Reed.
It was a back breaker for a potential football empire. That play alone sums up the 90's Bills.
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On 7/27/2018 at 11:24 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Thank you again
Phil Hansen
Phil Hansen and Aaron Schobel are all time Bills greats. Buffalo has always had good RBs and good DL, you would think that would win you some games.
Discounting the obvious greats (Bruce, Williams), and forgotten 1960-80s players, Imagine a D-line of Phil Hansen (DE), Kyle Williams (DT) and Aaron Schobel (DE) in a 3-4. If you add in a Sam Adams, Pat Willliams or Fred Smerlas at DT that 3-4 becomes a brutal 4-3.
I'll take that trio or quatro for an all time great team, and they are our 'B' or 'C' squad. (Bruce, Mario Williams, Sestak, McDole etc.)
I hope that Phillips, Washington, and Lawson can step up this year to continue the tradition.
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I just want 'Poyer the Destroyer's' head on straight for the football season!
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On 7/25/2018 at 6:19 AM, Xwnyer said:
Playing wiffle ball in backyard I was always Boog Powell I was an Orioles and Cubs fan but neighbor was a Tigers fan so had to be Powell since AL and NL never played except in World Series in those days
I have a Boog Powell Magnet from a Rochester Red Wings giveaway. He is in his minor league Rochester Red Wings uniform. It's in really nice shape. PM me and I'll send it to you.
We played lot's of backyard football growing up since my high school team didn't have football until my sophomore year. Anything from 5 on 5 to 15 on 15. It was madness. I was called 'Brew' for Larry Kinnebrew. At 5'9 240 pounds I had nice hands, wasn't fast, but was very hard to tackle. Whatever FB Buffalo had was my nickname du jour. Mueller, Gardner and Brew, but 'Brew' stuck. It apparently was kizmit since I now have a Tom Brady beer belly.
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On 7/26/2018 at 2:07 PM, CA OC Bills Fan said:
I was at the game. Got up to go to the bathroom at some point during this, can't remember exactly when, but I missed most of it.
The next week they had another huge comeback in the 4th quarter against the Raiders on Sunday night football. The Bills scored on a 42 yard Kelly to Lofton pass, then a bit later James Williams blocked a punt and returned it for a touchdown and the first Bills lead of the game. They then added a field goal and a fumble return for a touchdown.
I was at that Sunday night Raider game with my dad (who is from Oakland). That was the game where Nate Odomes mugged Willie Gault on the sideline and raced in for 40+ yards. Everyone thought Gault had a huge play and first down on a drive that could have tied the game late. We were all confused to see Odomes running to the endzone by himself, and the fandemonium in the stands after the ref signaled TD was incredible, like 70,000 plus exhaling at the same time. It's one play i saw live that will always stick with me.
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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
"It's true, there is a good Applebees in Buffalo."
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excellent player, a respected divisional rival.
I think Stevie Johnson may have he best per game career stats against him. Those were fun match-ups to watch.
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On 7/18/2018 at 12:52 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Zeke was suspended after a year of investigation by the Aventura, FL PD and Columbus, Ohio PD which did NOT result in criminal charges (the prosecutor said he believed the victim in some instances but did not have sufficient evidence for a criminal case) and a completed 160 page investigation by the NFL.
And that could happen with McCoy at some point - but it's not going to happen before the police investigation and an NFL investigation (if there is one) plays out.so they were about 12 pages weak of this thread and all the 'evidence' and 'charges' some people here came up with.
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6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
I refuse to turn this into a TT thread
I think that Rosen's style of play also plays into this.....he is not mobile (and yes we wanted a pocket passer but you have to be able to escape trouble at times) and as I watch Rosen while incredib accurate also has this habit of stepping right into hits.....that is a not for long qb I dont care how frail or strong your body is.
With Allen......I think it could be entirely possible that at this moment in time Rosen might be better.....but lets not forget that Allen probably has not reached his ceiling as a qb....and qbs drafted can be at a certain level and when it is all said and done the qb with the higher ceiling can end up being the better qb in a couple of years.
I just hope that the bills dont try to use Josh Allen the athlete in their game plan and have him make his throws from the pocket and keep his ability to run in his back pocket for when nobody is open situations and not the other way around....a big strong cannon armed qb with a quick release......then run like a deer for that first down when all else fails.
Who was making this a TT thread?
When did I mention TT or even elude to him? My whole post was about Rosen... I'm happy they are moving on from TT and didn't take Rosen for the reasons alluded to in the OP.
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59 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:
Close your parentheses.
If serious, don't be the guy who argues semantics and grammar
I was involved in an online political debate the other day and when exhausted of facts and points my opponent stated:
"you misused a non-defining relative clause, dummy. try again"
Who the Fu#k knows what that is other than some over educated, good for nothing dumb @ss?
I had to look up what a 'non-defining relative clause' was.
I found it between 'micro-aggression' and 'trigger warning' in the @ss hat dictionary.
The proper insult would have been:
'You misused a non-defining relative clause dummy. Try again.'
His punctuation was terrible for such an educated lad.
Moral of the story: don't be 'that guy'.
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4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:
Antonio cromartie should be in the running as well.
Damn beat me to it.
Right? It keeps happening.
I guess after 159 pages all of the original material is exhausted...
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Neither the Bills or Sabres are winning a Championship this year.
Both teams are rebuilding.
This is an easy bet. No. It sucks, but is the truth.
$200 goes a long way on Lundy's Lane.
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Can we afford to carry 3 active QB’s all season?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by RocCityRoller
3 is the tradition.
Would Buffalo have made it to 4 SB in a row without QB3 Gale Gilbert?
No you say?
The Chargers, yes the lowly Chargers, the Bills of the West, made it to the very next SB with Stan freaking Humphires at QB and Gale Gilbert at QB3 after he left Buffalo.
Peterman is our Gilbert, or Alex Van Pelt. A guy with the brains to be an NFL QB, but not the physical ability to be an NFL QB.
I always wondered what Gilbert, AVP or Edwards could contribute to a QB room if they don't have the skills to be an NFL QB, but have the brains to be an NFL QB, and aren't asked to be the starter. Poor AVP had to be the starter...
At best Allen is Kelly, AJ is Frank Reich, and Peterman is Glibert. At best.
But yes you carry 3 QB.