RocCityRoller

Tyrod had nothing to do with either.

He's not only an analytics guy, he has a lot of heart, from walk on to what he did. Heart and analytics = QB. hoping the best for Josh, but Mayfied was the play. Tipping a beer to Cleveland. You are off the hook Cleveland! Buffalo and Detroit up next.

Me too, but TBD and OBD knows better.

Tyrod and the Jets F$%#d me again. Started the Jets D against Tyrod and a potential Rookie QB and sat the Rams DEF vs the veteran Chargers and Rivers. At half time I looked great 20+ points. Multiple sacks, a blocked punt, a FF. Then Tyrod 'got hurt', and midnight turned into the pumpkin. They both screwed me again. Tyrod out Mayfield in. The Jets D allowed Baker to look like Joe Monatana. uggh... The Jets officially suck more than Cleveland now, and F Tyrod. LOL losers both of them.

he was kept so the Bills could cut Nick O'Leary of course.

I don't want TT hurt, I liked him while he was here. But he walks into sacks on his own. Seeing a lot of bad OLine play this year. Seattle almost made Buffalo's O-line look passable last night. Putrid O-line play across the NFL.

Aiming for Carr's record of 70 something.

how do the Lions keep getting a pass???

Count me in that group too. Anyone have BBQ for this crow?

they show more fight than the team!

I think they have this year as the scrap down and do the best you can year. 2019 - get a talent influx through the draft and FA. Keep in mind a lot of top tier FAs may not want to come here. There are quite a few teams with a lot of cap room, some like the jets seem to be improving but couldn't get FAs to sign with them. Improve the record 2020 - better be competitive with more FAs and draft picks. 2020 is the year McBeane have till IMO, and it is the right thing to do. This year will be rough. I'm not a huge fan of the method, but a complete tear down was long past due, and we are reaching the bottom. No where to go but up!

Tyrod had Wood at C, Incognito at G, Glenn at LT, Watkins, Woods, Goodwin, Hogan and a younger Shady. Not to mention Karlos and Gillislee. On defense Mario Williams, Dareus, younger Kyle, Brown (Zach), Brown (Preston), Bradham (Super Bowl), and a whole secondary of players on other NFL rosters. Live in reality much?

This is one of the oldest rosters in the NFL. That is a FACT.

Thank you for taking the heat. You made exactly the eloquent and focused post I could not. Big thumbs up to you CamboBill. This is not the situation you put the #7 overall pick at QB into. If you think QB play alone is to blame for last week, or even last year you may have a screw or two loose. And last year's situation was palatable to what we have now. Read Carr, David. It's the same thing all over again. By the time the Texans put a half decent OL and WR corps together he was near PTSD and damaged goods. Yet the Bills refuse to learn from NFL history, and may very well repeat it with Allen. As I stated before and will state again, the McNabb in Philly situation was the right way to bring along a raw rookie QB into a terrible offense. Terrible O-Line, terrible WR yet McNabb went 3-2 as a rookie starter. Josh Allen can not be judged as a franchise QB alone this year. HE HAS TO SURVIVE THIS SEASON. A QB can only do so much when the O-line is largely garbage and the WR's can't get separation or make tough catches. Peterman, who may have been an effective backup has already been ruined. So now throw out your #7 overall in the same situation? Now let's ruin the next new QB in a Bills uniform. This is all due to self inflicted dead cap space and bad roster decisions. LET ROOKIE CONTRACTS PLAY OUT WHEN YOUR TEAM SUCKS. This is madness, doing the same things over and over and over again, but expecting different results. I just hope Josh Allen's escapability allows him to absorb less damage than David Carr did. If you are too young to know about David Carr look him up. He took 50+ sacks for an expansion Texans for one or two years and was ruined. This is exactly why old heads like me said, "hey wait, sit the kid for a bit, the OL and WR try to improve even though they are garbage on this team". Maybe by week 10 some trends emerge and you can send out your best OL and WRs without getting your rookie QB killed.... But no, we need to ruin the shiny new toy as soon as possible. This is incompetence at it's worst. Deal away a ton of talent for a chance to draft a top 3-5 QB in a strong QB class then throw him to the wolves on a decimated team. Brilliant team building. If you want to see competent team building look at the Rams and Jets. $&%^%) it - better than I wanted to say. We are praying for hope a la Bruce Smith type player. Maybe you are too young to remember. B Smith #1 Overall pick in 1985. They didn't trade down, they took a difference maker who is the all time sack leader in the NFL, played in 5 AFC Championship Games, 4 Super Bowls, Bills Wall of Fame, and is also in the HOF. You sound like a newb.

I was going to say this. RB is ok, TE has some youth in Croom (and Lee on the PS). Look at the the young QBs around the league and the WR, OL combos they have. Darnold had pretty good time and the Jet WRs are nothing to write home about, but they do have a nice mix of young guys and a few vets sprinkled in. Goff, Wentz and Mahomes have dream scenarios.Even Fitzmagic showed how good Winston has it.

I hate dropping de Beer. I'm tipping one to him right now. Seemed to come in and work hard. Ike B is also gone right?

Vontae Davis - was supposed to offer vet leadership and stabilize the #2 CB position - didn't even suite up. At least Star got ont he field, heck even T Murphy made it to the field. Davis not even making the field put Gaines and Johnson in the target and weakens what was a solid unit. K Benjamin - Pathetic. Softest big WR I've ever seen, does nothing to fight for balls or help his QB. No wonder he was expandable and Cam isn't a fan. Watch another big bodied WR like Evan play WR then watch KB.... what a waste.

Please do tell me who was open? Never discount the Lions The Jets and Browns actually looked like football teams. Even thought I enjoyed Cleveland being the eternal Factory of Sadness and inventing new ways to not win a home game that was handed to them.

you got it right all along Burple, and I learned about the drink. congratulations?

I don't think this is true at all.Thomas is not 'cheap', O'leary produced and was on a rookie contract. I like Coom and Lee, but choosing Thomas over O'Leary was a bad move by the Bills IMO. O''Leary will go to New England or Miami and haunt us. Mark my words.

O'Leary and Coleman are out but Thomas and Foster are in...... questioning things right now....

Kyle Williams? AJM becomes the immediate #2 in Oakland. I wish him well. Seems like a good guy. I'll take a 5th for a late round FA signing any day. Peterman and Allen this year, let's hope the O-line is up to the task.

thankfully this is a depth conversation. I was worried he had other issues with the name of the post. At the end of the day these are still human beings, and I wish them well. The Bills lack high end talent at WR, but do have some mid level depth. Will be interesting.

Yup, just had to find a way to get it done. Anything is possible.

Is it better when you have a QB and no OL???? Even Kelly had Wolford, Hull, Richter, Devlin and Vogler. There is no Wolford or Hull on this line. Nevermind Richter or Devlin. At best Groy can be Vogler. No, I extrapolated all of that from the facts that separate you from your opinion