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Just now, Tipster19 said:
I do marvel at all the possibilities this time of the year, it’s my favorite part! Lol!
I appreciate your enthusiasm!
Though, I have been here to witness the meltdowns!
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1 hour ago, Gugny said:
First of all, I'll preface by saying that I've been down with The Process from the beginning. I got it .. and I get it.
I understood getting rid of Watkins and Woods .. and letting Gillislee walk (to Boston). But the purge continues with Glenn - our best offensive lineman - and now rumors are swirling about Hughes.
I love stockpiling draft picks, but you can't build a team on potential. And even if they draft well, in three years, we won't be able to afford anyone.
I feel like he's going rogue and even if we end up with the golden boy QB, we won't be able to surround him with anything but rookies.
It's amazing how the pieces of an NFL team fall into place once you have a franchise QB.
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10 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:
Meaning that it’s not to trade up even further for a QB. What if they did it for a twofold reason, shedding Cordy and his contract and then move back a bit to gather more current and/or future draft picks? Even with a small trade back the Bills still might be in a position to take a QB AND grab more draft picks. Hey, so far Beane has been surprising a lot of people since here, exceeding average expectations. I wouldn’t be hating on something like this if we were to get even more prime picks.
Tipster, you never fail to disappoint during free agency and the draft.
That hamster is working overtime on the wheel.
Relax, Beane is making every effort to draft the best possible franchise QB.
Watch his efforts,and be thankful a Bills GM is finally putting the work in to make it happen.
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Brilliant and probably much needed move top get a QB.
As much as its nice dangling 2 number1's to teams to move up, many teams just would have no interest in moving that far down.
With the 12th pick and all the other ammo Beane accumulated we are in a prImo position.
LOVE IT!
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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:
Maybe, but that's never been the case before when we hear from Chenelly in the offseason. It's always been accurate.
Chenelly has hit on much of his "shared information" .
There has some he hasn't hit on, but remember these situations are always fluid.
Either way, he always seems to have integrity and appreciate that he takes the time share.
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1 minute ago, GG said:
He has a time share
Time share?
And I thought Ralph was cheap!
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If Gaines resigns, he won't be the first player who tested the market,came to a "tentative" agreement with another team, then decides to stay put.
Why stay in Buffalo?
1.He was hand picked by GM Brandon Beane in the high profile Sammy Watkins. trade. Though, unknown by most Bills fans, he turned out to be a perfect in the Bills defense. Beane knew and thus, has strong belief in him.
2. He is rumored to be signing with the Bucs, Dirk Koetter the Bucs head coach IMHO is one the most likely head coaches to be fired next year.What defense will the Bucs be running once he is canned? Will it be suitable for Gaines skillset? Will the new regime that takes takeover consider EJ to be one of their guys?
3. It certainly appears that Beane and McDermott are at the beginning of building something special,leaving a few dollars on the table my be in his interest long term. That being said, as all these contracts do, it comes down to the guaranteed money, if the offers are at least in a similar ballpark, I could see him staying.
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3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:
Doubt it but it would be quite the move. Tre, Vontae, EJ, Poyer and Hyde is very impressive.
Agreed. Beane's ability to identify and obtain talent in the secondary has been stellar.
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55 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I think that Rosen has been the target for over a year. We will see but I think that he is their guy.
Agree 100%
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52 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
Let me simplify it for you then:
Eagles in cap prison
Reich was OC of SB winning Eagles - Foles won SB as MVP QB of Eagles
Reich named HC to Indy, Indy is a mess and in total rebuild mode, but has #3 pick in draft in a QB heavy draft. If only Frank Reich understood QBs.
Philly to Reich - "want a QB?, we spent too much, we were drunk signing Bennett, the QB is super cheap, only 7 mil a year", they said like a crack head selling stolen bottles of liquor for $10 outside your local 7-11"
Reich to Philly - "but I have Luck and #3, I'm fine, I told ESPN and Twitter"
Philly to Reich - "The QB is SB MVP, why not have a #3 and the SB MVP? Are you sure your other QB is 100% for your first year as a HC?"
"Would you rather have SB MVP and draft a QB at #3 to bring in fans, or test your Luck?"
Reich to Philly - "send me Foles, what do I owe you?"
Philly to Reich - "a second and 3rd, friendly discount and out of conference"
Reich to Philly - "That is a bit pricey, it's only Foles"
Philly to Reich - "That stupid McBean only offered me a 2nd, do a little better for me Frank, I can't give it away"
Reich to himself - "if only I knew of a team I like that needs a QB, especially one with a lot of draft picks in the first round to help me rebuild this team and free up cap space"
Reich to Buffalo - "I see you need a QB, we have Foles, the SB MVP, and a future #3 pick QB now. Any interest in our decent but slightly banged up QB since we need to rebuild? He declined a bit previously, but is pretty good."
McBeane to Reich - "I suppose we could use a QB, though we are good with Peterman, and spending 4 picks to move up for a totally unknown quantity, or spend 100 million on an a slightly above avg QB. This is the genius of TBD. We do have some draft wiggle though."
Reich to McBeane - "I'll tell you what, #21 and #22, maybe a third too?"
McBeane to Reich - "21 & 22 or it's a no deal"
Reich to McBeane - "well it's a hard bargain, but ok. I'll roll with SB MVP, #3 pick QB, #21 and #22, dump 75 Million in salary and be called stupid on "Two Bills Drive" for it.
McBeane to Reich - "Thank goodness, we didn't really want to roll with Peterman, or those other options, and everyone knows TBD is a bunch of wankers anyway." "Trust the Process, Frank"
This might be news to you, but Frank Reich is not the GM or the main decision maker in Indy.
In reeality he is an afterthought as their head coach Though,. I think he will be a very good one.Ballard is their GM and Jim Irsay the Colts is heavily involved in all football matters.
Reich will not be making any decision on keeping or trading Andrew Luck.
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4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
Among all the QB topics here and around the NFL boards I have not seen much conversation about Andrew Luck.
Most of the buzz centers around free agent Kirk Cousins at 25-30 million a year. By trading Taylor the Bills gained 10 million this year on the cap, and will be 80-90 million under the cap next year when dead cap space is freed up. Financially the Bills are technically back in the running for Kirk Cousins, but questions remain about Cousins being an average or slightly above average QB able to win games. There are also suitors willing to throw ridiculous amounts of guaranteed money at him (Vikings, Jets).
The next QB tier is the Nick Foles/ Case Keenum level. Nick Foles is apparently commanding a 1st and 4th from Philadelphia coming off his big playoff run and Super Bowl MVP, a classic buy high scenario. Case Keenum also had a terrific run last year but has had an up and down career. Both proved to be clutch performers when called upon and could be reaching a 4-5 year 'Rich Gannon' halo level. Both also have been career backups and journeymen and seem to be mid-tier, system dependent starters. If in the right situation and surrounded by strong teams, they can be successful. Does Buffalo meet those requirements?
After that level we have AJ McCarron who will require draft picks too, and has a very small sample size (a la Rob Johnson), Mike Glennon who has never wowed anyone, underwhelming Matt Moore, always injured Sam Bradford, Josh McCown who is almost as old as me, and Teddy Bridgewater who is a poor man’s Tyrod Taylor coming off a major injury. None of these are a real day one starting QB you trade Tyrod away for. Fine backups for certain, but not starters for a team coming off of a playoff appearance and looking to win now with a veteran roster, or build with for the future.
McBeane has stated they would not move on from Tyrod unless they had a plan in place. None of the above meet that requirement and will demand a significant investment in cap space or picks.
At 21 and 22, the Bills could let the draft fall to them and hope for an Aaron Rogers or Russel Wilson situation. They could try to package picks for a QB and move up, but who is the target? All of the top 6 QB prospects have question marks. Whether it is completion %, arm strength, maturity, size, clutch performances or competition level, none is the ideal guy you gamble the house on, but many are intriguing for a relatively new HC/GM combo without a QB in place.
Buffalo will have to give up three picks minimum, likely four to move to the 3-6 pick range, if they can find a partner to snag who they want, and a lot of teams in that range also could use a QB. There are more teams with draft capital that could move up and leave Buffalo in another Big Ben draft situation leaving our Bills with another Losman. Can a team with so many holes afford to mortgage their future for an unproven commodity with a lot of question marks?
Buffalo actually has enough cash and enough draft picks to make any scenario above possible.
Look around the NFL.
Who has a proven starter at QB, at a buy low point, on a contract that looks like a bargain for the next few years when compared to Cousins, is in line with Foles for draft capital, and is a McBeane type character experiencing a regime change?
Andrew Luck in Indianapolis does. Indianapolis has about 5 QBs under contract, the #3 pick in the draft, and a former QB in place as a new HC in Frank Reich.
Wouldn't Frank Reich like to have a say in his future QB? Most new HC/GM want 'their guy' to lead the team and succeed or fail with that guy. He did help develop Carson Wentz, who fell into a dream scenario with a strong team, a HC that was a career backup QB in Doug Petersen, and Frank Reich as OC. Frank Reich has strong ties to Buffalo. Would Reich do Buffalo a solid by trading Luck to them?
What if Buffalo could get Luck with the two first round picks this year (#21 and #22)?
Why would Indy do it?
If Indy traded Luck to Buffalo they would free up significant cap space to build around, and have three total picks in the top 22 this year to rebuild with. Indy already has the #3 pick in this year's draft and would free up about $75 million more in cap space over the next three years.
Look at the draft. With the Tyrod trade, Cleveland can take S. Barkley at #1 safely and have a solid run game and game manager that limits turnovers and show a marked improvement in wins now. At #2, do the Giants aim for the fences at a QB to replace Eli or do they build up the team for one last run? I'm guessing they go defense like LB Chubb and pair him with newly acquired LB Ogletree to build up the defense, and make a run with a healthy Beckham back. That leaves Indy at the #3 pick, able to pick any QB to rebuild with. At #4 Cleveland still could go QB for the future too.
What would Buffalo get? With the Tyrod trade Buffalo could absorb Luck's contract which is about $25 million this year. Would you rather pay Luck or Cousins 25-30 million a year? Buffalo would still have room to sign an impact player (DE Adrian Clayborn), or sign/resign a few Poyer/Hyde style mid level players. DT Beau Allen, WR Donte Montcreif, and LBs Preston Brown, Zach Brown, and Nigel Bradham range come to mind. Even trading away the two firsts, the Bills would still have their 2 second round picks, and 2 third round picks to build around Luck, and be able to address the defensive front seven, OL and WR positions as needed based on free agency.
In Bufffalo Luck would have a solid OL, especially if Glenn is healthy. In that case, Dawkins should kick out to RT as he was originally drafted for, and give Luck the best pair of tackles he has had. Incognito is still solid at LG for a year or two. The Bills also have Groy at C who started many games that Wood missed a year ago without missing a beat. Let Ducasse and Miller fight it out at RG under the new scheme. PFF rated Ducasse as an avg RG last year, and Miller was the most improved RG the year before the zone blocking scheme was implemented. The Bills could use a pick to beef up the interior OL too, to protect Luck.
At RB, Luck would have a veteran thunder and lightning RB combo in McCoy and Ivory. Between the two of them, there should be plenty of gas left in the tank, and a good understanding of pass blocking. Better than the Richardson and Brown combo he had in Indy for many seasons.
WR/TE it is underwhelming at first, but Benjamin is the huge target Luck never had in Indy. TY has been fantastic, but is small. Indy hasn't had a big receiver like Benjamin. Clay is a solid TE that can block and catch. Jones is in his second year, surgically repaired, and should be moved to the slot. The signing of a mid level WR like Montcreif would add familiarity, Hurns would add another boundary WR so Jones could move inside, or Richardson who would add speed to beef this area up. A draft pick could also be made here.
Buffalo is not the worst proposition that could be made to Luck. Both teams have work to do to compete for a championship, but both teams would benefit. Both are in the midst of regime changes, but I feel Buffalo is more ready to win now with a few savvy moves.
Is Andrew Luck in the prototype buy low scenario?
Is Andrew Luck still considered a franchise QB?
Would you pick up his contract for this year’s 2 first round picks?
If not who would you prefer? Why?
Would Indy even consider 2 first round picks for him to do a true rebuild under a new HC?
What is the most you would trade to Indy for him since Buffalo has 6 picks in the first three rounds?
Is he healthy enough for the risk?
What do you think?
So many words.....
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Worst looking pizza ever !
He definitely wasn't in Buffalo.
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9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:
If you knew your history you know that was Mr Peanut! ?. Still no need for you to be such a jerk to that guy. What's the harm in just being civil?
I hear you. heck, we all have perceptions that are wrong- it just gets frustrating when you tell people the reality and they can't let go.
Either way, I'm usually not on here much, but with all of our picks and with a management and coaching inplace that knows what they are doing, the next few months should be much fun!
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2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
Some of y’all are dramatic
that said, I’d keep him at 8m
It would be nice to keep him. They saw the writing on the wall as to how much he will be getting paid and they moved on.
Kudos to Beane for being premptive by signing Vontae Davis.
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9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:
You are a piece of work. How did you make it into your 50s being such a smarmy ass?
Says the guy with a dick for his profile picture!
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Joe Tessitore has the potential to be excellent! Will bring much more excitement than McDonough.
I love the move!
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8 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
So in other words tour 16 year old 350lber sitting in your moms basement getting off being an internet troll on a message board. 50 years old hanging out online bragging about having friends working as sports agents, kinda sad if actually true.
Nothing I said is true. Whether the league does anything or not doesn't mean it isn't technically t ampering and NOTHING i said required receiving insults
My God you are a special one aren't you?
Actually not bragging, it's a fact.
I am certainly not the only one that has posted on here that has friends to people that work in connection with the NFL. It's a big industry.
The reason most don't actually post inside tidbits is that they know is they have to deal with mouth breathers like you!!! It's just not worth the time. Well. thats it on this topic for me. After the free agency period is done remind me of how many teams get fined and lose draft picks for tampering. LOL
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Just now, apuszczalowski said:
Seriously? I point out a FACT and this kind of response is acceptable around here? No wonder the quality poster keep leaving here...
You are just slow.
I am in my 50's and my college roommate IS a current NFL agent (who has represented many ex Bills players)
He, as all other agents have been working the phones for quite awhile setting up parameters for deals
. Some...wink..wink are agreed to in principle already.
Quality of posters is low because people don't want to bother spoon feeding mouth breathers like you. Go Bills!
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2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
There's a legal tampering period where teams can talk to players, that hasn't opened yet
Apparently there is nothing going on your head..carry on.
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12 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
Because they league has not opened the legal tampering period yet, it would technically be tampering at this point if they have a deal worked out already. Doesn't matter if "it has been done for years"
Let it go....the NFL does.
How many players have moved in free agency the last 10 years? How many teams have been slapped with tampering fines?
Enough said.
Remember when the Bills signed freaking Jason Whittle one minute into free agency that year? Alot happened in that minute didn't it? lol
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5 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:
What wojld the bills get for tb tampering?
Zero.
Agents have already begun sending out feelers and gauging interest and speaking of possible contract parameters with teams.
This is the way it has been forever, why so surprised?
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Hold your horses fella..
The scouting combine just completed last week and teams are still evaluating that.
Free agency begins next week and teams will be filling holes.
Teams also will be going to players pro days and having players in to team facilities to continue to evaluate.
'The draft isn't until April 28th.
At this point teams do the most preliminary of discussions of trades relating to the draft.
No trades will made made this early into the top 10, at EARLIEST it could happen a ferw days before the draft.
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36 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:
How would you rate Devin Funchess?
Funchess?
Maybe similar to Kelvin Benjamin, someone who is not enough of a high volume WR, and does not a full enough route tree to be labeled a true number 1.
But like Benjamin, as a number 2, pretty sweat.
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I wasn't a fan of Marquise Goodwin when he was with the Bills.
In part because at the time, I felt we drafted him too damn high!
He was inexperienced as a WR and and ran such a limited route tree.... and then the constant injuries....
Props to Goodwin for working incredibly hard and securing himself a place in this league!
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