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I would call this an honest assessment. Yes, we signed a bunch of guys. But nearly all not top tier or even multi year building blocks except for maybe Morse. The rest nobody around the league would be shocked if they were cut before the season or after a year. Some will say Beasley and Brown, but guys like them are on the market all the time.They are all the rotating chairs type of talent.

This. In the current year people express concerns and its called being negative or clueless. While the year before was obviously horrible and this year is so much better. But if you go back and look it was the same rhetoric about how they know what they are doing and its part of the plan, etc.

This could also signal concerns about Krofty health. In reality what TE does this team really have if Kroft is not healthy? Croom and a couple rookies...

Says "front loaded" "guaranteed into year 2". on a 3 year and $9M that makes it sounds as if at least $3-$6M+ is guaranteed...

I would say right below those guys - 50 rec and 500-600 yds. A guy gets hurt and it all changes obviously.

Zay does not get cut. He is more likely to be the top WR target next year. This team has no #1 WR its a bunch of 2's and 3's or slots. I see Zay being a primary target. Beasley catches a lot of underneath balls so hard to say how that will fit in. Brown will get less rec but expect more big plays and could be leading WR in yds. My prediction: Zay: 70 rec, 800 yds, 7 td's Brown: 50 rec, 900 yds, 5 td's Beasley: 45 rec, 550 yds, 5 td's Last three seasons: Zay: 83 Rec, 968 yds, 9 td's, 0 100 yd games, 2 multi td games, 4 5+ rec games Brown: 63 rec, 1014 yds, 8 td's, 2 100 yd games, 0 multi td games, 1 5+ rec games Beasley: 101 rec, 986 yds, 7 td's, 1 100 yd games, 3 multi td games, 4 5+ rec games

No...the issue people will have is comments like get it done beane, times are changing and other attempts to make this a story of greatness. Every 1st rounder will sign and it will be along a salary slot. Nothing to see here.

Here is the deal. The entire WR crew is essentially Zay. You could argue that any of them being cut based on how good each is compare to others. However, logic says 1) Zay was drafted in the 2nd round so Bills likely not giving up yet 2) Beasley and Brown were just signed so likely sticking around 3) Everyone else is up for grabs.

Agreed - fans need to accept him for what he is and hope the coaches do so as well. Let him play to his strengths and coach him to make better decisions.

For the right money who cares? One year deal and hope he stays healthy and can at least be a situational pass rusher.

What people fail to realize or maybe choose to ignore is the impact timing, accuracy, ball placement and decision making have on drops. Its not one directional - drops only decrease completion % thus accuracy. You throw a better football in the right places and you will have less drops. You throw the underneath or the check down instead of throwing downfield when he is not open. Yes, better WR's can help bail out a less accurate QB. But lets stop making excuses. Prior to the draft he was considered inaccurate. After playing his first season he proved to be inaccurate. That is on him, not on the drops. He can make improvements in both accuracy and in decision making that can and should greatly help his accuracy.

Thats how this board always rolls. We dont need Antonio Brown....we picked up Duke Williams and look at what Foster did last year. Its hilarious. We set the bar so low as fans. McCoy may be done finally but every year we hear how we dont need him bc a guy like Marcus Murphy or Gillislee or Karlos Williams.

I agree for the most part. But if you have a guy that tested poorly but played well in a legit conference that is different than the guy in a bad conference. This is the NFL. Those small differences in speed or athletic ability can be the difference in getting through the hole, batting the ball away, making the contested catch. Those lack of athletics play much less of a role against inferior competition. Common sense right? Put some guy that would not make the team at Bama and he could run for 2000 yds and 50td's against low level competition.

Opinions are like ... everyone has one.

From a fan perspective. Not the players. Just this idea that a guy that previously was not good enough to be on an NFL roster is being touted as almost a sure thing. Like Rogers, Duke is more likely to not make the team than he is to be the #1 WR.

The Duke hype reminds me of DaRick Rogers. Not sure how many of you remember. There have been others as well. The obsession with the random guys out there that are better than everyone else on our roster...

This is similar to my point. Since it is the first year with the Bills its easy to have hope and expectations because they are new. But compare this to last year: KB was 4+ catch, >700 yd guy Kerley and Holmes had each shown they could possibly be that guy as they had done it in the past. There are so many NFL WR's that have stat lines like these guys - 60 catches for 700 yds in one year, 35 catches for 450 in the next, etc etc. These tend to be role guys that some years need to play a bigger part then the next. But they are who they are. Not like an A Brown that will put up 1200-1500 year in and year out. Heck, when Stevie J left people said his 3 1000 yd seasons were basically crap bc any guy can do that. But we get two guys that have not sniffed 3 consecutive seasons and we are set at WR?

I think people look back and can say this. But next year we could play the same game - all they did was bring in Brown and Beasley who obviously were just #2 and #3 WR's blah blah blah. Last year we had K Benjamin who prior to knowing he would suck was the highest profile WR of anyone on this year or last years roster. He was supposed to be the legit #1 guy. Kerley was a guy that had some big seasons. A Holmes was another guy that people pointed to some prior success in OAK. Zay Jones, McCloud and Foster are still here. Its easy to look back and say this years talent is clearly superior bc we know that KB bombed. We know that Kerley and Holmes did not pan out. But Brown and Beasley could just as easily turn out the same. They are not no brainers like if we had done the Brown or OBJ trade. But not knowing how this would play out - KB, Jones, Kerley, Holmes, Foster vs. Brown, Beasley, Jones, Foster is not some drastic upgrade.

Carr throwing to Brown and Williams. Handing off to Jacobs. I would take that. Defense is more of a question mark but they brought in the draft picks Ferrell and Abrams, not to mention Mullen. Signed Burflict, Marshall and Joyner. Going to be better than last year.

My roster: QB: Allen, Anderson, Barkley RB: McCoy, DiMarco, Gore, Yeldon, Singletary WR/TE: Brown, Jones, Beasley, Kroft, Foster, Roberts, McCloud, Knox, Croom OL: Dawkins, Spain, Morse, Ford, Nsekhe, Long, Teller, Waddle, Feliciano DL: Phillips, Oliver, Murphy, Hughes, Lotulelei, Lawson, Phillips, Yarbrough LB: Milano, Edmunds, Alexander, Harold, V Joseph, Lacey, Stanford DB: White, K Johnson, Hyde, Poyer, Gaines, Alexander, T Johnson, Bush, Wallace SPEC: Hauschka, Bojorquez, Ferguson

Yeah I agree. That is why people should not over think this. Its likely Andre Roberts or whoever wins the KR/PR job. But we should not expect much if any offensive production from a WR 6. Maybe a few catches if someone gets injured. Every team has injuries, but look around the league and see the stats as you go down the roster to the 6th WR on teams and its a handful or less of catches.

What scares me about our WR crew is that it is all over the map. You have people saying Zay could be the #1, while others saying he could get cut. You have folks saying Duke Williams is the key X factor, while many project he doesn't make the team. At this point it feels like all we know for certain (I think, haha) is that Brown and Beasley will be key contributors. Just feels like the old days with Fitz throwing to Stevie and David Nelson, Donald Jones or whoever.

Not going to happen. Why would any team take on his salary?

WR: Here is the question. How much are we really throwing the ball next yea? There are only so many balls to go around. Last year including KB the #6 WR on the roster caught 3 passes. PIT, GB and Indy threw the ball the most times in the league and even they did not have a #6 WR catching the ball. OL: We will def keep more than that.

Where did these guys get drafted: Donnel Pumphrey late 4th Justin Jackson 7th Miles Gaskin 7th Ken Dixon late 4th Jahwan Edwards UD Jarvion Franklin UD