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How so? What conclussions do you want them to ask about, and what red harings are they throwing?

Lol. Mariota is dead.

I'm sure this was discussed earlier, but DAMN SON! Where Do I have to move to vote for this guy?

Woah Woah woah... Don't question assumptions now... Obviously we can assume that if Clinton were guilty she'd be charge, but that Trump hasn't been charged because he's obstructing justice... I mean, that's just simple assumptions, which we know are true.

This might be the best takeaway. The Republicans should probably let Quigly use all their time...

LOL. "If you vote for Trump in 2020, the statute of limitations might run out and make it impossible to charge him for this thing that we have no evidence of."

He looks like James Spaders bad stunt double in a film about Spader's character as a Pedophile. Schiff looks pissed that Mueller isn't just agreeing to everything...

Was it up there with them all starting with "first, let me just say Mrs. Ford, I believe you and I love you and I support you and I am so sorry that all of this happened to you" etc. etc.

No problem. If you find anything that you feel captures your view on it, feel free to share it here with me or if you want to do so in private message thats fine too. Again, as much as I give you crap a lot, I am not looking to flame here.

I love saying "you know what they say about assuming, it makes an ass out of you" and then pausing and waiting for whomever I am directing it to to reply "and me."

Thanks. I'm not trying to be an idiot- I have a close friend whose bought the story of collusion and obstruction and I don't want to go into a follow up without knowing what each side thinks and why. I am hoping to watch it when I get some time.

File this one under the "didn't age well" label:

Some of these twitter feeds are helpful, but do you know of anyone who is or has written a direct conclusion/write up?

Do you, or one of the sources for your conclussions (if they are not your own), have detailed write ups demonstrating how this was proven? Again, not flaming- I want to see this from each side and see what I didn't get to watch.

@Deranged Rhino - Do you see Mueller as more of a puppet/less of a bad actor in this now, or do you still think he was motivated by partisan ideals?

What's that they say about assuming?...

Okay, I was working and only got bits and pieces of this. Can someone from each side of the argument post what they feel is the best report/summarization? @Tiberius if you have one I will read it without flaming it- just wanting both sides.

*Slurrrrrrrpppppp*

I'm playing catch up on this thread, but I just wanted to drop a line and say What the Literal hell? Come. On. You have to see how stupid that sounds.

Well, we officially have the opinion of this little #######.

What reason did they have for ignoring the phone call and not mentioning it in any of the statements? we don’t disagree on who Hill is, and I do agree that the league was probably very careful, but it goes back to the same problem- we don’t know what they did or didn’t do. We have punishment in one situation and not in another and we don’t have any reason other than “trust us” to explain away the discrepancy. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, and I’m not accusing the league of mishandling the investigations, I’m just wondering why they don’t make these decisions more clearer. On the Around the NFL podcast, 4 guys who get checks from the NFL each week had similar overall concerns.

The other side of that is that Hill is the most exciting player on the most exciting team, helping make the new face of the NFL look good... they had just as much reason not to punish him as they did to punish him. Your argument is sound and I don’t necessarily disagree, but the truth is neither of us know the full story on either of these cases- that’s the issue that I see with it.

The police didn’t charge Reed either and he’s getting suspended so that’s obviously not a standard. And Hill might not be guilty of abuse, but he did threaten his girlfriend (girlfriend whom he has previously abused) and if you look above at one of my posts there’s an article about Jimmy Smith getting suspended for threatening behavior. It’s entirely possible that Hill was innocent and not deserving suspension, while Reed was- the problem is that because all of this was “internal” the default becomes asking us as fans to trust their investigators and their impartiality. While I don’t have a huge issue with that, there has been some major issues under Rog when it comes to discipline that would definitely make questions appear. If you’re a Seahawks fan you can’t say you’re not wondering why one non-criminal allegation is worthy of suspension, and the other isn’t. There’s no transparency and the stakeholders (every football fan) are left up in the air. By the “league knows best” standard, Josh Allen could get accused of assault tomorrow, go uncharged by the police, and then given a 6 game suspension. Are you saying you wouldn’t want to know what led to that decision as our time, money, and energy investment in the 2019 Bills season gets flushed down he drain?

Here’s an interesting would you rather: Would you rather Allen becomes a good QB, maybe goes to one or two pro-bowls and has a fine career over the next 15 years while Sam Darnold is a complete bust and is out of the league in 4 years and seen as more of a joke than butt-fumble, or would you rather Allen become a generational talent, one of the best to play in the 2020’s, but who forever lives in Darnolds shadow as Darnold becomes listed among Brady, Manning, and Montana as best to ever play.

#thefuturefranchise Can't believe how much I loved this guy in my ignorant youth.