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I mean, none of it makes sense. The biggest mystery is why they wasted a second round pick on Rosen...

Alternatively, maybe they've seen enough. Anyone worried about the dolphins chances increasing with Fitz needs to seriously reconsider any belief that the bills are a playoff team.

I mean... It's hard to actually look like a bad coach when you're intentionally tanking, but this is a pretty bad look.

Man.. this may suck for me... I am likely to have a bachelor party for a buddy that saturday...

It doesn't hurt, but it's also relative. You become the best coach and QB by winning. You win by being competitive year after year. You become competitive year after year by not leveraging the future for the now.

It's not a bad idea and it could work for them... The place it gets risky is if you aren't hitting on later picks and you have no depth/no talent on your team by the time you're ready to reboot and you end up having to do a full Dolphin.

I will. I'll also tell him that getting to the Superbowl at all is about 80% chance, and 20% having a great team and that in order to try and win a superbowl, the best bet is to be competitive each and every year by building a good team with great components, instead of going all in on having a team that's "great" for 2 years. This really isn't that difficult to see played out... The Patriots are the blueprint. They have never done anything in year x that compromises their ability to build a solid team in year y or z- even if it gives them an edge in year x. It's all relative until we see how the Rams turn out, but my guess on that would be under 10 wins and not playing past the first round of the playoffs. I could be way off, we'll see. It's true, and that's unfortunately the crap shoot that is team building in the NFL- do everything right and if 1 23 year old kid doesn't turn into a star, it's all worthless. That being said, I like Allen's potential and I think he'll get there, and when he does, I think we'll have one of the best all around rosters in the NFL.

Edmunds is a blue chipper- he's still growing but in the past 2 months he's been a top 5 off-ball backer. Allen and Oliver both look like good players who can be great players. I don't think it's a push for two reasons- 1, we're building this team with these guys intentionally. We know them, we (the staff) believe them to be blue-chip players who are going to be top of their position groups. That's how you build a contending team. Secondly, I think the Bills model is better because we have money. We'll know in the next 2-3 years if these guys are the blue chipper we think they are- and then we'll have money to pay them, or money and draft picks to move on from them as needed. It's less about the actual players, and more about the team building philosophy. Yup, which has helped them keep relevant and has given them a building point for the soft rebuild that they just did. Carrol has been really impressive the past couple years- it looked like he would retire when the strength of that roster was gone, but he's retooled and they look like a team that could be in the mix for February. Having what I would argue is the best QB in the league doesn't hurt one bit.

True enough, but its spread out over 5 years as opposed to all at once. And the idea is that you use draft picks to be replacing guys as they become blue chippers so you aren't forced to keep them if you can't do it. That's the hardest part of it- knowing when to keep the money, or when to keep the players. The Seahawks, who are pretty good right now, had those down years after the SB loss cause they struggled to know how to move on from stars, but they weren't able to pay everyone. Some of that is the natural ebb and flow of the NFL, some of it is management difficulties.

Yep. That's definitely what they're doing, and they are closer for having Ramsey, but the problem is that I don't think they were all that close to begin with. They have massive issues and would likely have been better off keeping those picks and the money and trying to build a more solid foundation to lengthen their time to compete.

And next year it's $36m An overreaction to the fact that they did the "win now" method last year and couldn't get the job done when it came time and now they're committed to this small window and can't let it go.

You're asking if we want 4 blue chip players (or players who are looking to turn into blue chipers) on cheap deals and a rotational piece vs. 3 blue chip players making giant contracts? It's not a question of if they're getting value, it's a question of the sustainability of buying expensive players while getting rid of the #1 way of adding cheap players.

I think Phillips, Oliver, and Star are a pretty good rotation piece for now... I'd rather edge help.

But I want him. I really really want him. Please. Pretty please.

At this point, how is Trent Williams value more than just a straight up second? I don’t see that. I also definitely don’t see us trading Ford, and I think the staff likes the line as is. We’re 6 weeks into having an 80% turnover with a new OL coach. I think we’ll be fine. Realistic trade for me- 2nd Rd to Jags for Yannick.

They just dropped two divisional games, including getting blown out at home. There's no argument that they're a top 2 team in their own division, and they've been a shell of themselves since Gurley got hurt and Goff has been exposed as a decent player dependent on everything else going right for him. They're not trash, they do have a good talent level, but from a team building perspective, their lack of infusion of young blue chip players is hurting them as the team as a whole trends in a bad direction.

Yep. I bet their QB can throw for more than 78 yards now that they have a good CB. The principle of what you say is definitely true, and he will improve a lot on that team. But i just don’t think they’re one CB away from being a legit contender this year.

As someone said up thread, gotta do something with them.

I think it's a sign of our society honestly... Just complain till you get your way. Social media is just a microphone for idiots.

Soon to be the #1 DB hit too.... Two questions- can they get out of Gurley's money yet? and how on earth can they afford all of that?

I will say... As much as I think it's a bad trade for the Rams, I do feel sorry for whatever OC's have to gameplan a defense that has both Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey on it.

All the jokes about trading White, but honestly with what McD does with DB's, i'd take 2 firsts for White without batting an eye. Throw a 6th to the skins for Norman and watch McD return him to an all-pro.

in a super tight window that is already closing on them, and I don't think Ramsey opens it back up.. Maybe he delays the shutting, but those picks missing speeds it up just as much. He is at times- he hasn't been the past 2 seasons. He's also a headcase. I think he's probably worth the payment, but for the Rams it doesn't make sense. Also, I disagree about the Edge Rusher comment. I don't think that's accurate in today's NFL where number 1 WR's are a thing of the past. A shutdown CB locking out a WR only impacts part of the play. An edge rusher getting to the passer, hitting him, disrupting rhythm, getting sacks, etc. impacts the entire play. Maybe owners are waking up to the fact that there's two kinds of crazy- intentional, controlled crazy (think TO, Randy Moss, etc) where it's about creating a persona and being known or getting their way, and then there's crazy crazy... AB crazy. Ramsey seems more the second to me.