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What wrong information?

I think Joe is saying that that is the narrative the media is pushing though completely false. I’m not sure I understand your second comment- the cops were doing their job and were shot at...?

Didn’t the whole media team just quit or something? Whoever replaced them should get a raise.

What a B word.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/metrosafe-lmpd-officer-shot-at-brook-and-broadway-in-downtown-louisville/article_8236bf40-fdfd-11ea-8fd2-d3f4b95b0f33.html ***** animals. this is one block from my wife’s work. I drive it every day when I drop her off. Take all their worthless asses to jail.

Going strictly off of what the AG said today, the police identified themselves outside the apartment, waited several minutes and then entered. Upon entering they were met with Taylor and the BF standing at the end of the hall and he had his gun raised and fired immediately. It was actually difficult for me to find the transcript of then AG’s statement, but here it is: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3507419001

In a practical sense yes, but when we talk about the protection of due process as it pertains to search and seizure it’s really not different as they’re both seen as within the context of due process. (Or in the case of imminent danger, seen as superseding process) No-knocks became prevalent because people were destroying evidence when police served traditional warrants and it gave highly dangerous criminals the opportunity to prepare to combat the police. Again, I’m not sure how it’s justified in this situation, but it doesn’t change the facts of what actually happened. P.s.- if anything, your argument is a point in favor of the no-knock. If in this case they hadn’t knocked and gone in quickly maybe they get him subdued before he gets to the gun. Here it just seems like he wanted to shoot it out with the cops.

To what extent though. If someone is in a house with a hostage and has a gun to her head, do the police need to wait for him to take the chain off the door before breaching? We obviously have examples in our system wherein law enforcement breaking down doors and using the element of surprise is acceptable. I’m not saying this example is one of them, but supposedly they didn’t do that anyways. And you in your view are siding with the anarchists in the street who are arguing that laws don’t matter if they don’t fit their definition of “justice.”

Nope. Not at all. I’m saying that when police serve a just warrant and get shot at it, they’re well within their rights to shoot back and if someone dies in the crossfire, it’s the fault of whoever fired the first shot. I will grant that there’s clearly ambiguity if the shooter doesn’t know it’s police, but as has been established, that’s not the case here.

What is your point in existing in this thread? Are you genuinely arguing that police don’t have the right to return fire when they’re lawfully performing their duties?

I mean, I certainly don’t trust the liberal media narrative that is the antithesis of the government investigation. We’re stuck with two options and one of them is currently burning my city down. That being said, the evidence of those case has been very consistent throughout. He shot first. Once your shoot at the cops, you and those around you become downrange.

Assuming that the AG’a report is accurate (and I haven’t seen solid sourcing that indicates it’s not) I don’t agree with your take, though I agree that no-knocks are questionable at best.

I mean, we can debate the wisdom and constitutionality is no-knocks (and I don’t like them either) but it doesn’t matter to this case: 1- evidence shows they did knock and identify themselves. 2- Whether or not they knocked, they were executing a just warrant legally and got shot at, so of course they’re going to shoot back. 3- much of the narrative is that they bust in the door guns blazing and killer her while she slept. According to something I read (maybe upthread, and potentially incorrect, but going off that) the ag stated that they did identify themselves, and when they entered she and the boyfriend were in the hallway and the boyfriend shot at the cops.

My understanding is that it was a no-knock warrant that they served with knocking...? But she was sleeping in her bed with her halo firmly in place when she was brutally executed- don’t ya know?

Haley Cameron 2024

Shockingly enough, police doing their duty and returning fire aren’t getting arrested and aren’t being handed over to the crowd to be executed and drug through the streets. Ladies and gentlemen, start your fires. i hate this damn city. Wife got home safe PS.

It’s really surreal to be in a city where this is happening... curfew instituted for Louisville. this is gonna get ugly.

If you could start all your posts this way it would really be a helpful reminder to me to ignore you. Thanks.

Isn’t Herberts brother a Doctor?... hmmm.... connect the dots people.

Lol- okay. I don’t care who starts for the Chargers, I would be having the same conversation about any situation where a coach is clearly lying about his Rookie QB cause he’s got butterfly’s in his stomach for a journeyman backup who is one of the most frustrating QB’s to watch play the game. Tyrod was great while he was here, in that he was a phenomenal talent without the guts to do anything with it. Every downfall he had came from his own over-conservativism with the ball in his hands.

I failed to realize how much Edmunds wingspan and speed changes the middle of the field for a offense until I watched it this week. He’s such a monster that even if he’s not in position properly (which has become more rare as he’s matured) he’s still in position.

Edmunds + Dodson is a lot better than Dodson + Klein. Obviously Both is ideal, but I’ll take anything we can get.

I mean, he made the one really dumb interception which did give the chiefs the opportunity, but that’s rookies man. Furthermore, if Lynn actually believes they have a better chance of winning that game with Tyrod, he needs to be fired.

But I read on here that we shouldn’t play them this week to avoid accidentally winning an NFC game...

Yep. She works in the UofL health system and the CEO sent out a long letter about how the police and private security will ensure the safety of the hospitals and outpatient clinics and how protests have widely left health care facilities alone... shockingly enough his letter said nothing about how employees are going to get in and out of downtown safely once the fan has been hit by the projectile poo.