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Tired of the LJ Hype.

Arm strength isn’t about 50 yard bombs; it’s about 20 yard lasers that get to the receiver before the DB knows he let it go.

Ah yes. A call out thread aimed at the leader of the Second ranked pass defense in the league last year. How exciting.

Bills 12 Pats 8 (I expect the cam experience to fall apart) Dolphins 6 Jets 2

I expect our Defense to get their act together this week.

and the solution could be as simple as thanking god we only play Aaron Donald once this year. 😛

I get that. With Rosen my big red flag was the sheer number of people coming out assuring us that he didn't have character concerns and that he was actually a leader and team first guy... There's a difference between the natural level of propping up that a guy gets in the draft process, and when we see a concerted effort to change a narrative that almost seems like it's trying too hard... If that makes sense. I also didn't see any elite traits with him and any time a guy gets the "he's so smart he can win with his mind" tag, it's questionable to me cause you can't tell that until he gets to the bigs. For what it's worth, I have no memory of you being one of the aforementioned luddites who took their love of Rosen beyond opinion and to self assured facts. Yeah, Mahomes is an all time great no doubt, but it's just disingenuous to say the bills should have known and drafted him. At the end of the day, only one team had an idea of what he really was and made the play for him. 10 teams passed on him, and 21 other teams didn't truly know what was coming or else the Bills would have gotten much more for the pick. It's all revisionist history. McD made the decision he did for a reason, and it's working out quite nicely for the Bills who are built for longterm success and have the QB coming into his own at just the right time. That's really what it comes down to. I've been wrong on so many players so I don't begrudge those who were wrong on Allen- For me it's simple: treat your opinion like your opinion, and be flexible with the results. For whatever reason there were many here that struggled to do that with Allen.

I mean, if you're gonna keep him cause he might be competent against the Broncos and their Third string QB, you deserve it.

I seem to remember Dan Orlovsky having mixed feelings on Josh, but here he is pounding the table for him as MVP:

Shockingly enough, none of the rest of the league gives a crap that the Rams think they got robbed on a controversial PI call. https://www.nfl.com/news/rams-criticize-defensive-pass-interference-call-in-loss-to-bills

Yikes... Didn't even realize i had picked the cardinals... Thanks for nothing Mighty mouse.

Right, but that was all icing. You couldn't make an argument against Rosen's attitude and character without it being assumed you disagreed with him politically. It was a blind spot for a major part of this board and while I'm sure some did dislike him for that reason, many of us saw him for what he was (and what he's been revealed to be) a guy who thought he was better than he was and was unlikely to succeed. We got lambasted for 4 months on that opinion but the proof is in the pudding, so to speak. That makes some sense, though I think it's unfair. Overall he was for whatever reason the whipping boy of the "new wave" analysts that care about their specific models and have no room for allowing divergents. Those are the national guys who have refused to give him any credit for his improvement and growth and are now like "wow, Josh Allen can play" while hoping we all forget their complete dishonesty about his development over the past two years as well as their seeing him and judging him against the as mentioned higher standard. Some have come out and owned it, which is good. I completely agree. Let the good times roll! I don't care to assassinate anyone's character, but there are a few posters who threw fits when we took "wrong josh" and then disappeared whenever it was shown they were wrong. I have no time for such feeble minded fiends. Those who had their views on Josh and are now admitting that they may have been wrong I'm fine with.

I just assumed he was laying the ground work for 2021 TSW mock Draft.

That’s a good start. Seriously though, there’s nothing wrong with being wrong. Two things play into how sweet this feels: 1- from a national media perspective, Josh has always been judged at a higher standard than the other QB’s from his class. Just look at the excuses still being made for Darnold- yes his team is terrible, but he’s awful. Josh can have a brilliant game (3rd straight) and still get lambasted about a couple mistakes while the media trips over itself to cover Darnold and Mayfield with excuses (just like they did for Rosen) 2- There’s a special sense of victory around these parts as going into the 2018 draft there was a very heated divisiveness around here wherein the majority wanted Rosen (hence the term “right Josh”) and viewed anyone who preferred Allen/didn’t like Rosen as intellectually inferior. It went beyond the typical “I prefer this guy, and I think that guy won’t do well” and was down right hostile to anyone who didn’t see Rosen as the obvious pick or dared to point out his issues. Now, that was from a vocal few primarily (some really idiots who are now gone cause they’re schmucks), but the majority here was anti-Allen, so for those of us who have been pro Allen since pre- April ‘18, this is a nice level of vindication.

I live in Kentucky and I saw him over the summer... he was in Bham.

Chemist to Boss: “Hey Boss, I cant be sure, but does this look like the chemical makeup of kitty litter?... how does someone even get that in their blood stream?”

I can’t imagine anyone in the world who is likely having more fun with unemployment, quarantine, and door dash.... my guess is he’s a solid 450 right now In a bathtub full of cannabis.

With the way our offense has been playing, them running won’t be a problem. If they want to run with us scoring every drive they are welcome to do so.

Sam Darnold...

How do you think he knows he’s inflexible?

He just got it back... I was just trolling Joe. Metcalf looks like a freaking Elk out There. All legs and muscles. Shall be carrying me straight to fantasy stardom.

@Joe in Winslow Ya boi:

Not sure how many on here are listeners of the ATN podcast, but I for one am looking forward to Wessling shutting up the salty AFC east fans (Gregg and Dan) when they start talking about Allen's struggles.

That kick was a nuckler. Lions get a win against Mighty Mouse.

Somehow kick it through the wrong uprights?