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RochesterRob

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  1. 3 minutes ago, SDS said:

     

    I'm not sure what you are saying here. 🤷‍♂️

      People will cease coming here as their feelings are irreparably hurt with no alternative group plus a desire to find a place to discuss politics.  I've been apart of clubs for well over 25 years and have seen it time and again.  PPP is a semi-neutral zone where someone can maneuver away from an awkward encounter by simply walking away for a few hours or jump into a different topic.  

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  2. 1 minute ago, SDS said:

     

    My opinion is this:

     

    1. We have the best Bills forum anywhere. Always have. I hope that continues. Right/left/black/white/green are all welcome here. 

    2. I have my reservations about PPP and I am not able to fix political discourse. It has morphed into its own club. Usually when they happens, club members get annoyed with others.  It always happens. It has happened before and it will happen again. That's the life cycle of social groups. However, given the evolution as a group to being more clubby than open, I think moving it to a self-contained club makes total sense. It relieves a lot of pain points. I think it gives everyone what they want.

      Yes, as I have said previously.  Clubs do deteriorate due to personalities butting heads which means they are not a long term answer.  

    6 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

    I'm with snafu on his points above and the others he's made in the rest of his posts.   I come to PPP to discuss political issues, and it's hard to have discussions if everybody shares the same views, which I'm afraid might likely happen in the club format.

      Not For Long as Jerry Glanville used to say if a dissenter surfaces in a small club.

  3. 7 minutes ago, SDS said:


    This has been said erroneously before. I routinely dump posts from the stadium wall into the archive. I’m not sure I have done that here in 10 years or more if ever. There is something like 8 million posts in our database. 800,000 are here of which of the majority are from a smaller group.

      You're at a crossroads and only you know the full magnitude of your decision.  Either salvage PPP or let it spin into oblivion.  What other direction is there?  People are voting with their time as to where they want to be as I type this response.  Where do you want them to be?

    5 minutes ago, LB3 said:

    The others just threw chitbombs everywhere. SectionC3 literally thinks everyone that disagrees with him is a Nazi. BillStime posts the same memes nonstop. TBBills is barely literate. GoBuffalo716 is a POS ghoul who asks people to see their loved ones obits. Gary is mentally unstable.

     

    Tibs was cool. Crayola64 is a good contributor. Frank Reich offered some good perspective. Transplant engaged. Doc Brown was good. Kay Adams, K9, Jauronimo, Section 122 were all good when they stopped down.

     

    Shoshin on the other hand might be the most insufferable crybaby I've ever seen on this site. A stalker evidently too. Let's take a dive in on him. Joined in 2016. Didn't post again until March 2020. He posted damn near exclusively in PPP until recently. Still spends more time in PPP. Cried over and over about how he hates PPP and wants it shut down yet posts here more often than on TSW. After SDS gave an explanation about recent events, he played cheerleader about the banning. Actively trying to prevent discussion. Now he's searching out those members who left and letting everyone know so he can PM them about it. I say this sincerely. Shoshin is a pathetic person. The living embodiment of "taking my ball and going home".

      We will differ on who was a good lefty poster but I agree that there are a few.  I think posters such as Kay would be welcome on the other site as she maintains good manners and decorum.

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  4. 22 minutes ago, shoshin said:

    The gang who got upset already created their own forum. I won't post the link but happy to share by email if you want it or I can post it if you approve. It's a "Bills" forum where the political posts already appear to be well-outpacing the Bills talk. More or less a recreation of what was happening here but more echo-ey.

     

    I'd say that you can spin this out on its own or just let those interested follow the conspiracy crowd over to that place and just shut PPP down. There are a million political outlets now, not the least of which is Twitter.

     

    Shutting PPP down or spinning it away from TBD as a club will make TBD a more collegial place. Both make sense to me and I already advocated for it. 

      I don't think that you get it.  PPP outposts the other forums by a wide margin which can be important in terms of revenue.  I don't think SDS would have the least bit of concern in terms of shutting down PPP if it amounted to an unwanted appendix.  The other site only appears echo-ey to those who are.................................  It may not have been your mission to shut down PPP for hidden nefarious purposes but it certainly was for others here.

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  5.   I don't think that clubs will work based on my experience belonging to clubs where people meet one another live.  Some people want control and that dilutes as the number of members increase.  Also, people can be of one political label or another but not agree on every last topic.  Sometimes the division can be extreme and in a small circle the temptation to leave most likely will be greater.  I've said it before and will say it again that it is my belief there are way too many sock accounts here on an agenda.  Admittedly, I know little on the tech side to know how readily socks can be ferreted out to the point of one account/one voice.  As a business man I get real perturbed when I think that a party that should be neutral puts their finger on the scale and to me it seems like it goes on here.  I've moved on from suppliers who played favorites in my field and no doubt there are others who feel similarly when it comes to chat sites.  Sorry to be perhaps a little blunt but I am thinking you want opinions no holds barred.

  6. 1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

    No, you said something really stupid and he called you on it 

      NO.  He did not have the balls to come right out and say it but he was clearly annoyed that a poster he dislikes (he after all placed that poster on ignore) had the most recent response on several threads.  Kemp said something stupid and I called him on it.  Now I am calling you stupid for backing a poster who has issues coming out in the open with what he wants to say.  Live in a gaslight environment long enough such as you have and reality becomes extremely extorted.  I should take pity on you but I don't.  You deserve the self torture you are creating.

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  7. 7 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

     

    Maybe he can throw like $10k or $20k at “Deranged Rhino” to work a Utah Jazz message board to convince Internet randos to vote for him.  That was your theory with this place.  A good spot to work McKean and Potter Counties in PA for Trump, you believe.  And we wonder why you fall for the Trump hoaxes!

      You seem very ill and fatigued.  Some time off from here would do you some good.  

  8. On 10/9/2020 at 11:09 AM, SoTier said:

     

    The rioting and looting happened back in May and June.  The suffering from Trump's politicization of the coronavirus response reminds voters every single day of his compete and total incompetence to deal with a crisis.

      And nobody is suffering from Cuomo's, Newsome's, Whitmer's, etc. Draconian policies?  You would be amazed as to how focused somebody can be in assigning blame when some politician's pile of crap lands on their front door.  Of course you were probably sitting in a place economically where you were insulated from what was going on.  Pity that NYC stands in the way of the house cleaning Albany sorely needs.

  9. 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

    Biden isn't leaving office. You guys are nuts. He's wanted to be President for a very, very long time and you idiots think he's some Trojan Horse swooping in to win an election only to give the Presidency away.

     

    Oy. :doh:

      Whistling in the dark?

    40 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

    Be careful what you wish for ...

     

     

    Trumplets confuse spray-on tan with good health, bluster and bullying with good governance, and irrational behavior with mental soundness, which is why they're getting their panites in a wad because Biden looks, speaks, and behaves like a POTUS should, not like some sick cariacature of a wannabe dictator like Covid Donnie obsessed with self gratification.

      You looking at the same Biden as the rest of the world?

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  10. 33 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


    Why have they been putting a lid on the campaign so early so many days? 

      It is so contrary to a typical candidate for President and the corresponding campaign.  The kind of ego that goes along with such a candidate demands a steady stream of public appearances and speeches.  What Biden is doing is extremely atypical.

    48 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

    This is one of the silliest memes of the campaign -- the idea that Biden is in such mental decline that he is a mere stalking horse for Kamala. He's pretty much put the severe mental decline thing to rest with a perfectly fine (for current standards!) debate performance and other appearances. The assumption should be that he'll serve a full term. I don't see any reason to believe he'd walk away before then.

    The real question that Trump supporters should be focusing on is this: can he really be planning to win and run for a second term? A second term that would begin when he's 81 years old? And end when he's 85? Surely he's considered this. Surely he talked to Kamala (and other VP candidates) before making his decision. What is the plan? If there isn't one, shouldn't there be one?

    That's a fair and sensible question. Usually when we vote for a non-incumbent we are expecting an 8-year tenure for him/her. Those expectations shouldn't apply this cycle.

     

     

     

      This is a silly premise.  There is no one track for the decline of a human being.  I've seen people go into their decline during their 50's.  What is the family history?  What are the dietary practices?  

  11. 15 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

    I read an article a few weeks ago that conservatives should hope it happens quickly since it will splinter the Dems and force Biden to go into politician mode aka save your own butt mode- and become more reasonable 

      Are there enough moderate Democrats to force a splinter?  I know that the hard leftists get most of the media coverage but there just does not seem to be a sizable core of moderates..

  12. 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

    The last thing we need is a smug elitist left coater as POTUS.  That alone should get the vote out.  

     

    But to answer your question I'm thinking 4 years.  

      Assuming that he lives that long and stays in office I would expect him to be seldom seen after the first 6 months of his Presidency.  I think that this is a very fair question to ask meriting its own thread.

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