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The Trump facilities are only holding the event versus being a primary sponsor. Further, we all know there will be no restrictions such as conservatives only! It will be up to the strip club to make sure all the women are legally eligible to be employed at the event and with the Epstein situation Trump's resort will be scrutinizing this.

Independent POTUS candidate in 1992 that split the Republican vote enough to allow the Clinton's into the White House. For that maybe I don't want him to rest too well but I was raised to not speak ill of the dead for the most part.

Maybe in Texas but not Chicago and especially not in a non-rich district. Al would have had property taxes and utilities to pay. Most likely had an insurance policy on the house and for sure if he was carrying a mortgage. Even if he only put 10 bucks worth of gas in the Dodge per week that's 500 bucks for 50 weeks. Peg's shopping (Frederick's of Hollywood and so forth) and bon bon's, Bud's blow up doll, and Kelly stealing from daddy's wallet probably amounted to 80-100 buck's per week. Federal minimum wage in the early days of the show was 3.35 per hour and that is probably what he made. I know it's just a television show and not real life but to me Al had to have caught some kind of break which people in real life get. Even if the house was paid for he most likely was spending in excess of what he was making. But again it is only a TV show. If Gilligan can keep the other castaway's marooned week after week then Al can have nudie bar money.

Yeah, the price of homes rose with inflation during the 1970's and kept going as terms got extended from 20-25 years on average to above 30 years by the late 1980's. Taxes in many areas went from under 10 dollars per 1,000 dollars assessed value in the 1960's to above 20 dollars per 1,000 dollars assessed value by the 1990's. By the way we don't know how fine Al was as the show never really spells it out. Why call me a windbag? I do live here in the US and do know something of those times. Al had to be getting minimum wage as a mall salesperson in a store that most likely had no margin to pay sales quota incentives. Now you want to talk about Al working at Sears back in the good old days of Sears when many senior store employees were making 30K in the Rochester, NY area then that is different.

In the US home prices did spike during the 1970's. Nonetheless, Al in 1970 would have been making around 1 US dollar per hour and a home like the Bundy's in greater Chicago would probably be at least 12,500 dollars. I would still be willing to bet that Al got help most likely from his dad. He would have had Kelly during the early 1970's and Bud by the mid-1970's to further eat at his paycheck. If Al worked a second or third job it was never said on the show to my knowledge. Just check US Dept of Labor and minimum wage as of Feb 1970 would have been 1.45 per hour. Al would still have living expenses to eat away at his pay before the children came. While anything is possible I would still think it probable that Al was a renter w/o help and would guess that even though 12,500 is realistic it would be at the bottom end of home prices. Al's home could have been upwards of 20K when he bought it. I remember my aunt and her then husband were newlyweds in the late 1960's and they rented until 1974 but my uncle worked construction which paid considerably above retail. My cousins were born very late 1960's and 1970.

Agreed and Al is the real problem in this scenario as his wages would not allow him to be a home owner. He'd be renting an apartment or a trailer. I guess the best real world explanation for Al owning a home is he inherited the money or somebody bought him the house then left it to him. Very little was said about Al family. Al's father was depicted as being little better than him but smart enough to have life insurance it would seem. I'm guessing that Steve and Marcy's combined income in 1986 would be around 70-75K and the homes in Al's neighborhood worth 65-85K. When I was at Cornell around the same time guys with economics or finance degrees would get a job at an WNY area bank starting out at 22,500 as a loan officer and max out in several years at 27-30K w/o promotion. Dept head would most likely be in the high 30's and VP a few thousand above that. If you wanted to do better than that then you went on for your MBA.

That never bothered me. Unless you are top rung at the bank you typically are not making big money. Also, I've known people who lived below their means starting out to avoid paying big interest on their primary residence to accelerate the pace to get into some place that they wanted to be long term. I want to say that there even is a Bills example of somebody who lived modestly in order to save for something much more to their liking. Now if Steve and Marcy came along late in the show (mid-1990's) when everybody buckled to peer pressure and bought beyond their means then I would cry foul.

I think that Tibs and Co have already been demoted to useless idiots.

Whistling past the graveyard early on a Sunday? You keep mentioning this as if you are the one who needs to be convinced that your dream will happen.

So you are reduced to citing flawed polls? We know that WaPo is desperate to be rid of Trump.

Meh, All said as a matter of opinion as the title says. Just because somebody has dark skin does not mean that they will want to suckle on the teat of the Democrats. Most people in the US regardless of background just want to build a better life and will see that the Democrats are only an impediment to that.

I don't have it. i have plenty of trees so the house seldom gets oppressively hot.

He insists on riding that sinking wreck straight to the bottom. Glug....Glug..

You need to cut back on the meth. At least you are not using bath salts.

Passed away July 2, 2019. Former Ford exec and Chrysler chairman. A guy that most either loved or hated. Rubbed a lot of fur the wrong way at Ford including Henry Ford II. Lead the team that developed the Mustang and also had a large hand in developing the Pinto which had its failings. Mini-vans and K-Cars for Chrysler. Was the Chrysler pitchman at a time when execs did not do such things. Chrysler took a lot of bailout money at a time when a number of giant industrial concerns were floundering including Ford and International Harvester. Buffalo was not spared as Bethlehem Steel was failing at this time. Thanks Rico for bringing this to our attention in the Arte Johnson thread.

Probably should give Lee his own thread since most will not look here. Thanks for mentioning Iococca's passing.

899,997 for MSNBC are prison inmates and mental patient wards. The rest are the resident lefties here.

Wolowitz?

Best remembered as one of the players on Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. He did the German soldier who said "Very Interesting." He also did the skits involving the dirty old man Tyrone trying to seduce Ruth Buzzi's homely lady. More entertaining than quite a few others on there including Joann Worley and Goldi Hawn.

I'll have to look for Harris' puppet strings the next she is on television.

Nonetheless can we launch Tibs as a chit bomb at the Iranians?

Never because then the foundation for the reparations movement turns to dust.

No, but I know of people who have friends that ideally based on their personality should not have any friends. And it is not always about having money or a cottage on the lake.

Heston was not good in this but I chalk that up to him and the director not knowing how to work the character. I always thought that Heston had some talent. Edward Albert was the worst for me. The special effects were no more than adequate and those familiar with the ships involved could plainly see all the "stand-ins" that distracted from the battle. I am not sure if actors salaries were a related issue. Not all bad as you got to see plenty of actors in this before they became stars such as Tom Selleck and you will miss him if you blink your eyes Gary Busey. An obvious dearth of Japanese-American actors as just about every Japanese-American in Hollywood was in this except for George Takei. It has been rumored that Takei was considered but not offered a part as his Star Trek background was thought to be distracting.

You know Trump's old thing is soggy how?