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I would love to have Clowney. As for Phillips/Lawson, it’s questionable whether or not Phillips is a starting caliber player in this league and Shaq is just adequate. Again, Campbell is arguably the best in the league at his position. Incredible run defender and generates a lot of pressure.

I’m not freaking out about our team, but to answer your question, he might be the best in the league at his position. We may be able to find a long term fit but we won’t find a more talented player. This just isn’t true.

It’s a one year deal. The only potential downside to trading for him would be the opportunity cost of spending $15 million of our cap space on him but he’s literally one of the best players in the league at his position so we probably couldn’t have done any better.

It’s possible but they play different positions so not necessarily. And they most likely can find a trade partner for Judon if need be.

That is absolutely terrifying.

The times start with a hand and end with a laser so presumably in these cases the hand guy started a little too early.

No.

Those numbers are the timestamps measuring the difference between when he started and when he finished

On a semi-related note, there’s a guy on Twitter that’s been going through the NFL Combine runs frame by frame and calculating exact 40 times and basically, he’s arguing that for example, Reagor actually ran a 4.40, not a 4.47. Weird stuff.

That one isn’t adjusting for height though. There’s a formula for HASS (height adjusted speed score) that’s basically one step further than the formula you used but the official formula isn’t publicly available from what I can tell. We can replicate it to be within a point or so but that’s the best I’ve been able to find. I also wasn’t including a few of the guys on that list. Watkins, Juwan Johnson, and i think one or two others. The list I’m looking at is all the guys that are included in PFF’s draft guide since it allows me to look at a combination of stats, metrics, and measureables that I don’t have for some of those guys.

See the third tab here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EGcKt-3OhHND7shQmY9LREGwBxtnUcFwQtQDz2U-3tk Higgins’ speed score isn’t listed because PlayerProfiler.com (who calculates the speed score) doesn’t use pro day numbers and the formula I’ve found for it isn’t exactly correct, but it’s close enough to know Higgins would be somewhere around a 106 give or take a point.

Yes, speed score is adjusted for height and weight. He’s somewhere around a 106 which places him behind Claypool, Mims, Ruggs, Pittman, and Peoples-Jones

The 4.54 was the official time according to Clemson which places him like 6th in this draft class in terms of speed score.

His speed score is literally one of the best in this WR class.

36” vert and 115” broad jump so probably about the same catch radius if not worse than Higgins.

He definitely had some relatively poor QB play but he also just didn’t catch the ball when it was thrown well. Worst true catch % in the class and one of the highest drop %. Obviously a fantastic athlete though.

Plus-side: he must have been flying for the last 30 to start that slow and finish as well as he did.

I don't expect us to bring in another TE after restructuring Kroft but we'll see.

Isn't that kind of the point though? If all the WRs are covered and Allen defaults to giving Duke the chance because he thinks he has the best chance to make a play on the ball; that's one of the things everyone seems to want to get addressed and Higgins would be that guy for us but likely much much better than Duke.

If we're looking to add a vet to the RB room like we had in Gore last year, Dion makes a lot of sense. Familiar with Daboll (I think they were both in NE at the same time?) and would give us the 3rd down back we need and allow us to focus on just getting a good RB of any type.

I don’t think we really know that for sure. Daboll’s first year was certainly a vertical based offense. It couldn’t be a part of it in year 2 because of how bad Allen threw the ball down the field throughout the year. The offense is still evolving, as is the QB orchestrating it and all of the skill position guys. Edit: Just for the record, like Yolo, I'm not banging the table for Higgins. I just think he's one of many good options for us at the WR position depending on what Beane/Daboll are looking for. If they want a big guy that can win down the field and be a go-to guy in big situations, he's arguably the best option for that.

A 4.54 isn’t a lumbering time. He’s literally in like the 83rd-86th percentile for height adjusted speed score.

Obviously depends on what exactly you do for work, but in my case and many of my other friends cases, we've been instructed to work from home until further notice.

That's fair. Higgins did pretty much match DeAndre Hopkins in terms of athleticism as well as some of his advanced metrics though (and I'm sure some other talented WRs as well). I'll understand if people are scared off by his vert and stuff but to me, if you liked Higgins as a prospect before or were hesitant only due to thinking he might be 4.6-4.7 speed, you should still like him now. If you think we just need a different type of WR, someone that makes their living more on underneath routes and creating yards after the catch, that's fine too. Higgins is better in terms of YAC than he gets credit for, but he's certainly not the kind of quick twitch athlete that someone like Ruggs is for example. Ultimately I think it comes down to what you think Buffalo needs in the WR room. For me, I think we need a guy that can take a screen pass, juke a bunch of people, and bust out a 40 yard gain, and I also think we need a red zone target/one more vertical threat. We should be drafting two WRs in this class IMO, one to address each of those needs (or if you get lucky, you can get a guy that fills both those needs too). Higgins undoubtedly is an option to address the latter need IMO.

I don't really agree with any of that tbh. I think he's at worst adequate in terms of releasing, has some of the best hands in the class, and shockingly good in terms of YAC ability.