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They are scored highly. People are misconstruing tight window throws with turnover worthy plays. If Allen threads the needle to his WR, that is graded more positively than pretty much any other throw. If Allen throws it into a tight window and the DB drops the pass, that is graded negatively. Technically it's only 9 QBs ahead of him in terms of passing grade, and no, because his turnover worthy plays have weighed his grade down. Jameis has been top 3 in positively graded throws every year of his career I believe and he's never had a good PFF grade overall. Allen's start to this season is a much less extreme version of that as Allen is still rated in the top 10.
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Basically what they're saying is that the turnover-worthy plays are generally few and far between (with some exceptions), so if you start off the season with like 4 TWPs like Allen has, that will weigh on his grade more right now than it will if he goes another 100 passes without throwing a TWP (which is feasible). This simply isn't true though. It happens every year where we see a QB like Mariota throw like 15 INTs on 10 INTable passes while someone else throws 10 INTs on 30 INTable passes. Regarding Darnold though, I went back and watched all of his passes this week and I don't really get it personally. I counted two or three passes that could have been picked off. His TD pass was great and he did lose about 100 yards on dropped passes and penalties but for the most part he was just checking it down all game and still throwing near INTs. They specifically talked about Brady's performance this past week in The Athletic article and that one is a much better case for their system; he legitimately played great and just got screwed by his receivers. Darnold was nothing special.
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The Athletic Article: Daboll and Allen
DCOrange replied to inthebuff's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Didn't see this article earlier but glad it was posted here. Ted Nguyen is one of my favorite football writers out there right now; great piece here. The breakdowns of Minshew and Dak were good too. -
I'm a bit confused by this post. This is supposed to be an argument against PFF's grading system? The one that is based on watching film and ignoring the stats? PFF tries to cover the full spectrum. Their grading is based on the film while they also track their own stats such as accuracy percentages, broken tackles, etc. but the grades that everyone mocks because they hate Allen is based on the film rather than his stats.
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Daboll's lack of designed runs for Allen this week...
DCOrange replied to LabattBlue's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Daboll or Allen or someone specifically said they featured the QB runs so much against the Jets because they saw that they struggled with it big time last year. I don't think it necessarily means they want to lean on it every week, but it's something Allen does very well and it's something that the opponent doesn't handle very well so we took advantage. -
Edit: NFL removes Bass's kick from All-22 video
DCOrange replied to Da webster guy's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
There won't be conclusive video evidence that the kick was good but it was. I guarantee if anyone cared enough, a physicist could tell you that based on the trajectory of the kick, the speed of the kick, and where it hit the net, it must have been inside the uprights when it crossed over the crossbar. It looks obvious to me but I'm no physicist so I can't give you the actual numbers behind it. It's kinda like one of those plays in basketball where a player swipes his hand left but the ball is deflected out of bounds to the right and the ref says it was off that player. The physics of the play tell you that it's impossible but you can't just tell the ref that what they just called is physically impossible lol. I say this from experience...one of my basketball coaches growing up was an actual physicist and he used to make this argument to refs all the time and he received a technical foul every time. -
Edit: NFL removes Bass's kick from All-22 video
DCOrange replied to Da webster guy's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It seemed like it was above the upright to me, but at any rate, just based on the sheer physics of the kick, there's no way that it was wide right. The angle and speed that the ball was traveling in makes it impossible for the ball to have hit the net where it did without having been between the uprights. -
There was a lot of truth in what Foxworth was saying. 11:30 - 12:00 was all fair game IMO. Bomani just hates Allen; always has. As I've said many times, I absolutely loved Lamar as a prospect (had him as my #1 QB prospect in the draft) and liked Allen as well. Bomani was one of the people that disagreed with all the scouts that were saying Allen was a potential #1 pick while Lamar was a potential late 1st round or 2nd round pick (which I totally agree with him on) but he basically got fed up about it and started arguing that if Josh were African American, he would have been ranked lower than Lamar was and that's why he's continued to call him Jaheim Allen instead of Josh even now. The stuff from Bomani is bush league; Foxworth was basically fine (at least for most of his argument).
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PFF Refocused Week 1 - Bills vs Jets
DCOrange replied to MAJBobby's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
They actually said Allen "showed numerous signs to be encouraged about", but the OP didn't include that part. -
I'm still not totally out on Darnold and Baker personally. If Baker doesn't turn it around this year, I'm definitely out, but Week 1 against Baltimore is a really tough matchup and weird stuff can happen in Week 1. He definitely doesn't have the excuses that Darnold has anymore though. Darnold might ultimately be toast, but man, the Jets really screwed him over terribly.
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Predict the division winner: NFC North
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I voted Vikings but I feel very uncertain about this division as a whole. You could put them in any order you want and I think it would be a possibility. -
Predict the division winner: NFC South
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Toss up between the Saints and Bucs. I went with the Bucs but it might just be wishful thinking. -
Predict the division winner: NFC East
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Seems like a toss up between the Cowboys and Eagles but I would bet on the Cowboys. -
Raiders trade Lynn Bowden to Miami
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Didn’t like him at all as a prospect and goodness he must have had a horrible camp lol -
It's not even just Bills fans. The media and national fans treat anything Peterman-related as major breaking news. He was so bad that it's earned him a cult following. It's really weird.
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Dare is pretty good for the role you'd be giving him. Good pass protector, solid pass catcher out of the backfield, and good special teams guy. I imagine he'll be scooped up pretty quickly but he'd be a good fit here (along with most teams).
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The draft picks aren't bad. I get the hesitancy from other teams based on the fact that it's a one year deal and will be extremely expensive if it turns into a long-term deal. I would have been happy to make this trade but I'm not mad we didn't either.
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If he's including receiving yards, it's not impossible that he could have done it, but he was barely on pace for that before Singletary started getting a bigger workload and it's entirely possible if not probable that his production would have declined as the season went along even if he were getting the same touches that Singletary did. At any rate, doesn't really matter and I wish him the best.
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I would definitely rather keep him than trade him for an Adams-type package. The Adams-type package was a great return for the Jets though, and if we absolutely had to trade Tre for some reason, I would be happy if that were the return. But again, just get the deal done to keep him here and continue building this thing.
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Potential Tre White replacements In 2020 if he opts out
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'd probably rather roll with Norman and Wallace outside than signing Ryan to play there. -
Not entirely sure what you were getting at with your response to me but in case the implication is that I learned this from a biased news source, I was watching the Fox interview live when he said it lol. I would guess CNN, MSNBC, etc. are running with him literally saying they’re immune but as I said, he corrected himself and said they’re virtually immune instead, which is still horribly misleading and dangerous. He did at least acknowledge that returning to school is legitimately putting teachers in danger.
