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I think more likely since it's open-ended, you get some voters projecting 2020, some voting strictly based off 2019, and others simply voting for friends, teammates, etc. That's how you end up with guys that were injured last year but are still considered elite players (Big Ben & Adam Thielen for example) not making the list, guys like Larry Fitzgerald making the list, and guys like Kenny Golladay not making it. Also probably how Lamar ends up #1; he was the MVP of 2019 so he gets votes based strictly off 2019 and he's also just insanely popular around the league so he gets the votes from guys that are just voting for friends and stuff. And how guys like Wentz end up not being on the list due to even his own teammates not necessarily supporting him.

With good reason lol. Wentz and Golladay gotta be among the biggest snubs.

Now that we know who the top 10 is, it looks like this is how our guys were ranked by position: Allen: #12 QB behind: Lamar (top 10), Mahomes (top 10), Wilson (top 10), Brees (#12), Brady (#14), Rodgers (#16), Watson (#20), Garoppolo (#43), Dak (#46), Cousins (#58), and Tannehill (#68) Tre: #4 CB, behind: Gilmore (top 10), Sherman (#28), and Ramsey (#37) Diggs: #8 WR behind: Thomas (top 10), Hopkins (top 10), Julio (#11), Hill (#22), Evans (#30), Godwin (#38), and Amari (#49)

Yep, mid-June

He had somewhere between 6-8 drops, including at least 1 or 2 TDs and 1 of the INTs. All of his receivers basically turned into Dawson Knox for one game and the Ravens defense was dominated all game. The Bills and Steelers were really the only two teams that gave him a very hard time.

That's when the new season is expected to start. They just finished their season this past weekend.

That's because Covid is barely a thing in the UK right now. They've had 18,000 new cases in the past month. We have roughly 4 times that many per day.

He was pretty good against Tennessee actually. No doubt the Chargers shut him down the prior year though.

It's amazing what happens when you only have a couple good players each year. Still, despite having probably the worst running game in the league over the past 6 years and one of the worst defenses over the past 6 years, they have a winning record with Stafford as the starting QB.

Yeah that's been confirmed to be the case.

Logan Ryan literally gave up the most yards in the NFL of any corner and is: 1. on the list 2. higher than guys like Marlon Humphrey lol Also Jimmy G being ahead of Dak, Tre, a bunch of others. Larry Fitzgerald being ahead of guys like Keenan Allen.

This list has gotten so, so bad tonight.

Wow lol, they really included Larry Fitzgerald and Logan Ryan in this

Tier 1: 1. Rodgers 2. Brady 3. Brees 4. Mahomes 5. Luck 6. Rivers 7. Big Ben 8. Wilson Tier 2: 9. Matt Ryan 10. Wentz 11. Stafford 12. Watson 13. Goff 14. Baker Tier 3: 15. Cam Newton 16. Cousins 17. Dak 18. Foles 19. Garoppolo 20. Carr 21. Flacco 22. Dalton/Jameis 24. Eli Manning 25. Trubisky 26. Mariota 27. Darnold Tier 4: 28. Lamar 29. Josh Allen 30. Fitzpatrick 31. Keenum 32. Rosen

https://theathletic.com/1082093/2019/07/22/2019-nfl-quarterback-tiers-rankings/

Yeah, I don't really get that either. Tier 3 is definitely right at the moment IMO.

https://theathletic.com/1945894/2020/07/27/2020-quarterback-tiers-50-coaches-and-evaluators-rank-the-nfl-starters/ I didn't realize Sando had moved over to The Athletic, but he published his annual QB Tiers survey today where QBs are placed on 5 different tiers based on the votes of coaches and "evaluators". Tier 1: A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins because of him. He expertly handles pure passing situations. He has no real holes in his game. 1. Mahomes/Wilson 3. Rodgers 4. Brees 5. Watson Tier 2: A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure passing situations in doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has a hole or two in his game. 6. Brady 7. Lamar 8. Big Ben 9. Stafford 10. Matt Ryan 11. Wentz 12. Dak 13. Rivers Tier 3: A Tier 3 quarterback is a legitimate starter but needs a heavier running game and/or defensive component to win. A lower-volume dropback passing offense suits him best. 14. Kyler Murray 15. Cousins 16. Goff 17. Garoppolo 18. Tannehill 19. Cam Newton 20. Carr 21. Baker 22. Josh Allen 23. Bridgewater 24. Darnold 25. Daniel Jones 26. Nick Foles Tier 4: A Tier 4 quarterback could be an unproven player with some upside or a veteran who is ultimately best suited as a backup. 27. Mariota 28. Fitzpatrick 29. Tyrod 30. Drew Lock/Gardner Minshew 32. Trubisky 33. Haskins 34. Stidham 35. Kyle Allen On Josh Allen: Vote Breakdown: Tier 2: 4 Tier 3: 40 Tier 4: 6

Gotta imagine with Lavonte David at 100, we can cross Edmunds off the list of possibilities. Tre and Diggs are looks though.

They just drafted two this year (one of which was a 3rd rounder) and Ronald Jones was kind of decent last year. He was #3 in the entire league in broken tackles per touch.

I’m not one to overvalue draft picks but that’s a crazy haul for the Jets.

Ah shoot. Nice try Reddit. Snyder will never do it because it would look weak taking an XFL idea, but I kinda wish they'd just take the DC Defenders name (which I've read is now available but I don't care enough to verify it myself).

This has already been pretty much public knowledge for years now hasn't it?

I just posted this in another thread but one of the Buffalo Rumblings guys did this same thing to predict Allen's Y2 stat line to pretty much perfection. Here's his article on what to expect in Y3: https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/2/28/21155523/how-big-of-a-leap-should-buffalo-bills-expect-josh-allen-to-make-in-2020 TLDR (numbers listed are the low range, mid range, and high range projections): Passing Yards/Game: 155.1, 198.7, 242.3 (Allen threw for 193.1 last year) Yards/Attempt: 5.8, 6.6, 7.5 (Allen was at 6.7 last year) Comp %: 56.4, 60.7, 65.0 (Allen was at 58.8 last year) TD %: 1.8, 3.6, 5.4 (Allen was at 4.3 last year) INT %: 4.0, 2.4, 0.8 (Allen was at 2.0 last year) So basically, historical trends (which he followed in Y2) suggest he likely won't improve very much statistically speaking, but it's not outside the realm of possibility for him to improve.

Might ultimately be nothing, but this seems like the first discovery of actual evidence pointing to the name change. This guy on Reddit found evidence that the new team name may be the DC Sentinels.

The Colts QB situation wasn't rated any higher than Buffalo's, but honestly, I wouldn't at all be surprised if teams would prefer to have a vet that they think they can count on and a couple potentially promising young QBs than just having Allen and nothing behind him. Indy probably has more flexibility to bring in a new QB as well since they haven't really hitched their wagon to a QB like Buffalo mentally has. At any rate, I think that one could go either way, which seems to be what ESPN believes as well. And I think you're just flat out wrong about Pittsburgh. I think most teams would likely take Roethlisberger and future draft picks over hitching their wagon to Allen. Ben is still viewed as arguably a top 10 QB in the league or at minimum top 15. The Colts situation is definitely more debatable, which is why their QB situation tied Buffalo's.