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That's just objectively false.

This. Cowboys want him to sign a longer deal. Dak says “fine, then you’re gonna have to pay for it because all the QBs will be getting $45 mil by the time that year hits.” Nothing wrong with his negotiations IMO based on the leaks so far. They’re just both hard balling each other.

That rule has been tabled for further discussion.

He was generally viewed as the 5th or 6th best RB prospect. He still was taken in the same range that most expected but there were definitely RBs taken ahead of him that were not expected to be. But yeah, definitely don’t think he dropped like a rock. It’s more that if you would have said 8 RBs were taken ahead of him, most people would have been a little surprised. It’s also obviously possible that NFL personnel were never as high on him as the media was.

If you download the 4.52 video into a video editor and look at the time stamps, he begins the run at 12.13 and finished somewhere between 16.73-16.77. 4.52 seconds into his run, he appears to be around the 37 yard line. If it’s electronically timed the same way it is at the combine, there is still human error involved as a human starts the timer and the electronic part kicks in just for the finish line. At any rate, there is no way you can watch the video with the timeframes that you get in a video editor and conclude that it’s a 4.52. Unless the video they posted is slowed down, the only logical explanation is that the timer didn’t start on time. Edit: the same thing happens with Combine times (and it’s even easier to figure it out with a video editor because it’s ***** at a much better angle. So for example, Jalen Reagor really ran around a 4.40 at the Combine but because his timer started too early, he was only credited with a 4.48 (or 4.47, I can’t remember for sure).

The Combine technically is electronically timed as well and they still get it wrong too. He starts his run at 12.13 and depending on which frame you think he crosses the line, he finishes at 16.73-16.77. Subtract 12.13 from 16.73-16.77 and you get a 4.60-4.64 range.

Speed isn’t all that important for a RB, especially one like Moss. Being a 4.6 guy with his skills is plenty. I would bet that the video in the OP is closer to a 4.65 than it is a 4.52. Edit: Yeah, if you download the 4.52 video, depending on which frame you think he crossed the line in, he ran a 4.60-4.64. He is a 4.6 speed guy and that's totally fine.

If it were the same exact situation, where the vast majority of the league is made up of white players but there's almost no white coaches, then yeah, I don't see why it would be wrong to try to do something about that. It'll never be a thing though. And again, I tend to lean towards this not being the right proposal in this situation, but I think I'm more open to it than most of the posters here.

For anyone legitimately interested in trying to understand the issue, this article does a pretty good job of breaking things down, though there's plenty of issues that can't really be accounted for. https://www.bannersociety.com/2017/8/9/20726457/black-head-coaches Essentially, the most likely pathway to becoming a head coach is: Playing QB/C --> QB/OLine Coach --> Coordinator --> Head Coach. Statistically, most minority QBs are moved to other positions when they move up from HS to college. Most minority offensive linemen are put at OT or OG rather than C. Why those position changes occur are highly highly debatable. There's certainly legitimate reasons to move guys out of those positions. For example, my high school team literally threw the ball less than 5 times a game. Our "QB" won regional player of the year, but he couldn't throw a ball to save his life, so he was recruited as RB/CB instead. This kind of thing could innocently impact minorities more than white QBs; it's a case-by-case thing that can't really be accounted for in those position change statistics. It's somewhat reasonable for centers as well, though I think the argument is probably weaker there and it's still a substantial gap. At the time the article was published, roughly 50% of offensive linemen were minorities, but only 9% of centers were. Because minorities aren't playing QB/C outside of the high school level, they don't get the opportunity to become a QB or OLine coach, which means they don't get the opportunity to become a coordinator, which means they don't get the opportunity to become a head coach. So bringing it back to this proposal, again, I don't think there's any chance it passes and I'm not sure I think it should pass in the first place. The issue begins much earlier than the NFL ranks but its effects certainly show up in the NFL. I wonder if a version of this proposal might make more sense: incentivizing teams to hire minorities as their QB/OLine coach and just leave the rest of it alone. It's not in the headline, but this proposal does incentivize hiring minority QB coaches in addition to the other levels that are getting more publicity.

I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it, but I don't think those that say yes to your first question are necessarily wrong. I can totally understand both sides of it.

Now do the demographics of NFL players versus coaches. It is pretty clearly a problem. This proposal might be going too far to address it, but if someone were to argue that going too far is better than maintaining the status quo, I wouldn't necessarily laugh it off. I give it a near 0% chance of passing the vote so this likely won't matter, but it's pretty clearly a significant step up in addressing the issue compared to the Rooney Rule which almost literally does nothing.

I'm curious to see what the "bone" colored jerseys look like on the field, but from my viewpoint, they look like the old smocks my 3rd grade art teacher would make us wear when we painted. Also the patch on that one is just horrific. Why not make the patch the same "bone" color rather than having a random white square on the jersey?

Seems like it’s down to us, WKU, and San Diego State from what I’ve been reading. It’s played out in our favor to get to this point at least but you could make a good case for any of the remaining 3 schools.

I haven’t watched anything outside of a highlights video of him so far. Seems like a more mobile big man than any of our current centers based on that but aside from that I wouldn’t be confident saying anything.

He's the most excited I've been about an SU recruit since Lydon or possibly even MCW. He's got a ton of cleaning up to do in terms of his shooting mechanics, but if he can even become an MCW level shooter, he should be really really good. He has the potential to physically overpower smaller guards and make bigger wings/big men look foolish with his crossovers. Unfortunately I don't like Woody Newton nearly as much. If the coaching staff can't get him to play hard (which he didn't do in any of the 4 or 5 high school games I watched), I see him as a transfer candidate after a year or two of being in Boeheim's doghouse. There's plenty of potential there if they can get him to buy in; I'm just always weary of guys that don't have the skills yet and also don't seem to play hard.

FWIW, my company’s COO has been told the government expects a decrease in our GDP of roughly 50% over the next 4 months. Feels like the government would theoretically be trying anything they can to avoid that happening but we’ll see.

Outside of Front Page Sports, which I never played, I agree with everything you just wrote. Also, not sure if you're aware, but the NFL and 2K reached a deal so 2K will begin making some sort of NFL game moving forwards, though the deal specifies that it cannot be "a sim game" or something like that. At least not yet; seems like it could be a step towards the NFL opening it up to both EA and 2K competing with one another again. I can only hope. I just bought myself a copy of NFL 2K5 to try to play and I've recently busted NCAA 14 back out as well.

It's not the best juke ever but I'm a sucker for ones like the Metcalf one posted early and this one (starts at 2:32):

I imagine this improves the odds of an NCAA game in the near future from 0% to some non-zero-but-close %. As the last tweet mentions, they deemed video games featuring the players' likenesses to be unworkable at the moment since there is no players union. I think a college video game will happen at some point, but for example, if they wanted to get every FBS scholarship player into one union, it would be larger than the entire NFLPA (including retired players). And they'd obviously have a ton of people joining that union with each passing year. The video game developer would then have to decide how much using college players' likenesses is worth. If they currently spend roughly $40 million to use NFL players' likenesses, what is an appropriate amount to pay for college players? If it's $40 million, you're talking about roughly $3,600 per player. If they decide it's more like $20 million, then obviously that ends up being more like $1,800 per player, and at that point, would the players agree? It's "free money" but still, not sure. I guess not everyone enjoyed the college games in the same exact way that I did, but I personally didn't care at all about having real players in the game. I would generally start out at a school where I didn't know any of the players anyways and once you're a couple years in, all the real players were gone. I don't really see the need to have player likenesses in college games at all. But it seems that either video game companies have numbers that suggest getting the player likeness is a huge deal for their sales, or they simply didn't make as much money off the college games and use the player likeness issue as an excuse to get out of the market. Either way, it seems like if companies felt that a college game without player likenesses would work, we would have had it by now. And even with this announcement, a deal where a video game pays for player likenesses seems to be a very long ways away still.

I don't think it particularly matters as speed really isn't all that important in a RB (unless their game relies on bouncing everything outside, which is probably not a good idea to begin with), but I would bet if someone takes Moss' pro day video frame by frame, it's probably about a 4.60 40 just like he timed at the Combine. And again, that's fine, but it almost certainly was not the 4.52 that it was reported as. And to be fair, the Combine time may have been off slightly as well; I don't really care enough to download the videos and do it frame-by-frame.

Pennington was insanely accurate back then though. Fromm's accuracy is nothing special; better than his velocity for sure, but he's far more likely to be a game manager if he ever turns into a starter than the stud that Pennington looked like he might be before the injuries really took their toll on him. He's not a special passer but he could be good enough mentally to survive as a below-average starter or solid backup.

I don't really agree with this. Time will tell, but I think you can clearly see where Beane would say he did indeed add touchdown makers. Moss had 39 TDs the last 3 years, one of if not the highest elusive ratings to come around in a very long time, and had the second most average yards after contact of any RB in the class. Between his power in short-yardage situations and his ability to bounce off people and pick up big chunks, I'm sure Beane thinks he is indeed a touchdown maker. As far as the WRs go, before this draft we had no size. Diggs is very good at making contested catches despite his size, but we had three good WRs that generally win with their quickness and speed. Davis and Hodgins bring us a different element with their size. Davis had the 2nd highest average depth of target in the class; he was pretty much purely a deep ball guy in college and recorded 19 TDs the last two years. Between his size, his deep ball ability, and his TD production, I'm sure Beane would consider him to be a touchdown maker and he definitely fits a different mold from our other WRs. Hodgins even moreso, as he gives us a big bodied red zone target that we didn't have on the roster before. With his size, body control, and hands, he dominated in the red zone in college, making him a potential touchdown maker. He struggled pretty badly to create separation against college athletes. There's no reason to think he won't have problems separating in the NFL.

Figured it would have already been posted in here, but this is #FakeNews. Chargers get their comp pick; Gordon had already signed.

I think it’s realistic to not expect all of the picks to hit even if I personally liked almost all of the picks. Regarding Moss though, he’s more athletic than Singletary and obviously Singletary played quite well as a rookie.