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Gabe isn't slow and he's always been at his best as a vertical threat. Still might not ultimately be the #2 guy out wide that we need but he's always projected as a fit there if he develops the right way and he developed very well over the course of his rookie season.

The simple answer is it almost certainly will not be faster, at least not at the WR position. Brown and McKenzie are the only WRs that ever stood a chance of being replaced this offseason and they're the two fastest on the team. It's possible we'll add speed at TE or RB but I don't think speed necessarily needs to be a priority personally. I think we're basically all set at RB and I'd prefer a versatile TE over a purely athletic one. Still, Henry or Jonnu would be a boost to our TE position's athleticism while also being more versatile than, say, Gerald Everett.

If we make a relatively big splash at WR, I would guess that it's Curtis Samuel (absolutely perfect fit and former Panther) or Emmanuel Sanders (we were interested before and he's versatile enough to fill Brown's spot or fill in in the slot sometimes as well). I don't really expect us to do that though; I think they envision a larger role for Davis at Brown's expense and either a draft pick or cheap vet to add some depth/versatility. I definitely do expect us to bring in a veteran TE via free agency or trade. Henry and Jonnu both make a lot of sense if Beane wants to spend that kind of money on a TE. My personal preference would still be Cam Brate or OJ Howard assuming Tampa moves on from one of them but we'll see.

They have Taysom Hill to play all 3!

Was an obvious move for them since he's overpaid and it's $0 dead cap. If he comes back 100%, he's probably worth roughly half that money. Would be a nice fit here though IMO, as he's a LB that flies around the field. I think he'd compliment Edmunds pretty well.

Idk if I'd take him over Evans, but they're both elite WRs in my opinion. Locking him in was a no-brainer.

Milano could still get over $12.5M per simply because: He's hitting the open market; David did not and David almost certainly could have gotten more if he did. He's now the unquestioned #1 LB on the market. It's possible that the cap dip this year makes teams more careful with their money, but it still wouldn't surprise me if Milano gets something in that range.

He's a top 10 or so WR and he just turned 25; he was probably going to get more than this on the open market.

It's still significantly stronger than last year's. Last year, the top free agent on the market was Robby Anderson and Breshad Perriman. This year, you have Juju Smith-Schuster, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Corey Davis, Antonio Brown, TY Hilton, Curtis Samuel, and Marvin Jones, all of whom are arguably on the level of the #1 option last year. It's still a very strong free agent class of WRs, just missing the top 2 choices. I could get on board with him on a cheap deal. Certainly not a sexy pickup but he'd bring positional flexibility which McDermott generally likes and he's been good like 4 of the past 5 years (of course the one year he wasn't good was this past year so he could just be declining).

Agreed again. I understand with Edmunds age, there's always going to be an allure there pretty much, but he's been in the NFL 3 years now and I just don't see the trajectory from him that we need. I think he's been roughly an average LB during his career so far. David is an incredible player and for my money the #1 LB in the NFL; no doubt Edmunds is nowhere near him right now. I personally would not feel comfortable signing Edmunds long-term unless he takes a significant step forwards this upcoming year but I don't think McBeane see him that way; I could be wrong about that.

I personally would agree with you but I think McBeane will make him one of the highest paid LBs in the league unless he takes a step back this year.

There is a limit on how many years you can do this (I think it's that the bonus can only be spread over 5 years or something but not entirely sure).

As I mentioned above, I would think Beane will be a lot more hesitant about doing stuff like this due to the fact that we have guys like Allen and Edmunds due for major contracts in the next year or two. It's one thing to shift someone like Diggs' money into the future since you're keeping him long-term anyways, but voidable deals like this where you're guaranteeing to be paying $4+ mil per year for players that aren't on the roster is a lot trickier when you're already going to be in a tight cap situation in the future than it is for a team like Tampa that has clean books long-term.

These teams are working on two different timelines right now. Beane is trying to prepare the cap for when Allen is being paid top dollar. The Bucs have a ton of cap space starting in 2023 and will either have Brady on a discount or a rookie salary QB by then so it makes a ton of sense for them to push money out into the years where they don't need it vs. Buffalo avoiding that fate because they know they're going to need the money.

Also, nobody in the NFL has more cap room right now in those 3 voided years than the Bucs, so it makes a ton of sense for them to use that to their advantage now. They can keep all the guys they want and still be fine long-term.

It means he's signed for two years but for cap purposes, he'll be on the books for 5. Basically agreeing to put dead cap in future years now so that they can sign David, Godwin, Shaq, and other players as well.

Tampa structured it as a 5 year deal with 3 voidable years so his cap hit is basically negligible. I think Shaq is probably next up.

Didn't see it but good call haha. Seems I've added to the problem!

Barrett is already officially not being tagged, though I'm sure Tampa is hoping to sign him before he hits the open market.

Just a place to discuss the players that are becoming available/becoming unavailable. It seemed to be flooding the Cuts thread so I figured it would be best to have it's own thread here.

We can use the Cuts thread if we want, but that doesn't seem the place to me. Tagged: WR Chris Godwin - TB OT Cam Robinson - JAX DT Leonard Williams - NYG S Marcus Maye - NYJ G Brandon Scherff - WFT OT Taylor Moton - CAR S Justin Simmons - DEN WR Allen Robinson - CHI S Marcus Williams - NO NOT Tagged: Edge Bud Dupree - PIT Juju Smith-Schuster - PIT TE Hunter Henry - LAC G Joe Thuney - NE WR Kenny Golladay - DET S Keanu Neal - ATL CB Shaq Griffin - SEA Edge Shaq Barrett - TB RB Chris Carson - SEA Edge Romeo Okwara - DET Edge Hasson Reddick - ARI S John Johnson III - LAR LB Matt Milano - BUF TE Jonnu Smith - TEN Edge Matt Judon - BAL RB Aaron Jones - GB Edge Carl Lawson - CIN

No harm in this. They have a ton of cap space and he's a very good player.

Sounds like the $160 mil is spread over 6 years to bring the cap hit down. Great deal on paper at least for both psrturs.

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