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Seems like a no-brainer for practice squad unless he loses the battle to Davis Webb.

Definitely an upgrade over the previous look.

He's an okay athlete. He definitely isn't faster than Allen though, nor is he anywhere near as comfortable moving as Allen is. Alabama reported that Mac ran like a 4.68 or something (Allen was in the 4.7s), but it sounds like all the scouts that were on hand had Mac in the 4.8's, which is still fine. Hell, Jameis was barely under a 5.0 and he still hurt defenses with his legs all the time. You don't have to be fast to be an effective runner at the QB position; it's just that read options will likely be a part of the offense under any of the other 1st round QBs, whereas running will be an absolute last resort for Mac. Seems pretty likely that Jamarr Chase will also be going top 5 after not playing at all this year. It's not Lance's fault his school didn't have a season.

I’m fairly certain it’ll be Lance or Fields. Lance will have less of a learning curve adapting to Shanahan’s offense IMO while still having a sky high ceiling. Fields is the better talent but might not be as good a scheme fit. Mac is significantly behind those two IMO.

Cant say I’m a fan of any of these options. Voted Eskridge I guess. Bash am would have been my choice I think.

No, he's another 3-tech.

No clue. I know they desperately need shooting and he's generally been a pretty good shooter. Would think that if he comes in with the right attitude, he'll have a shot at minutes there. The team also kinda sucked outside of Cade Cunningham and only had 2 forwards that really played at all.

Not that I was expecting him to return anyways, but I think this likely shuts the door on Guerrier coming back. I doubt Jimmy came without knowing he'll play a lot of minutes.

Woody Newton to Oklahoma State

I would hope we finish above that but I just don't like touching super high or super low O/U's. The 7-8 win bets are the ones that I like to bet on.

They can say what they want in the articles, but the development he showed in college, the toughness he plays with, and the super advanced mental aspects of his game tell me this dude loves football and cares a lot about being the best football player he can be.

I agree with all of this, though even as a fan of Kadarius Toney, he's nowhere near as fast as Tyreek Hill. Probably one of the most slippery WRs I've seen after the catch, but he's not a world class speed guy nor has he proven to be much of a deep threat yet.

Yeah, I mean, I'm on the record as not wanting to take Mac before the 3rd round but I'm sure someone will get desperate and take him in the 1st somewhere. I haven't gotten to Trask, Mills, Mond, etc. yet but I'm curious to see if one of them ends up earning a higher grade from me than Mac; I suspect at least one of them will.

Fields is a straight up better passer right now and more athletic too, but Lance sees the game better both as a passer and a runner IMO. Thought it was interesting that @GunnerBill said he thought Fields is a better scheme fit for Shanahan; it seems like everyone else I've read (and my opinion as well) that Lance already runs a lot similar concepts to Shanahan's offense while Fields does not. I would tend to think nobody outside of Lawrence fits Shanahan's scheme better than Lance to be honest. At any rate, I agree with most of the people here that it's between the two of them at #3. I don't know where Mac will be drafted but I would tend to think he'll slide a bit on draft night.

I mean, who even are the options? The only QBs that have received this kind of hype since Peyton are Luck and maybe nobody else? Luck didn't become one of the top 10 QBs ever, but he was one of the best in the league pretty much every year. He was probably on track for the Hall of Fame if he hadn't retired early.

I think Lawrence is comfortably the best QB prospect in this draft (and the best I've ever graded personally), but I'd still take the field just because you never really know. Also, one of these QBs is going to play in Kyle Shanahan's offense and another will play in a similar system; that could be enough to push one of them above Lawrence as an NFL player.

Cleveland has had a great offseason so far IMO. They should be good once again next season.

It looks like it was initially reported as a 4.36/4.38 but ended up being bumped up to a 4.48/4.50.

Just a tad lower than Javonte

No RAS for Najee Harris since he didn't do athletic testing, but needless to say, Javonte and Etienne would both represent a massive upgrade in the athleticism department over Moss/Singletary (though I still hate the idea of taking a RB this year anyways).

The "playmaker is vague" comments are kinda odd considering a sentence or two later, he specifically said he's hearing a YAC receiver, 3 down back, and speedy corner. Aside from naming specific names, that's pretty specific. Focusing on YAC receivers that might be available, the tops in the class statistically speaking are (in order of YAC/rec, and some scouting notes from PFF's draft guide): D'Wayne Eskridge - 14.4 - 5'9", 190 lbs, he's considered to have pretty poor hands, run pretty poor routes, and doesn't make people miss, but he has a lot of speed. Anthony Schwartz - 9.0 - 6'0", 186 lbs, "fastest WR in the class, no debate", "not a receiver, no feel for route running or ball skills", doesn't make people miss but his speed allows him to just outrun people Cade Johnson - 9.0 (in 2019) - 6'0", 184 lbs, an older prospect so might not be a priority for Beane, good acceleration and plays with no fear. Amari Rodgers - 8.0 - 5'10", 212 lbs, tied for 7th most missed tackles forced, regarded as having very good hands but pretty poor route running, PFF thinks he may be used as a RB in the NFL. Jaelon Darden - 7.7 - Only 5'8" and 174 lbs, he led the country in missed tackles forced at the WR position and put up 1,190 yards and 19 TDs this year (granted against lower level competition than other prospects) Rondale Moore - 7.0 - 5'7", 180 lbs, freak of nature athlete with great production, good at running the few routes Purdue used him for, and good hands, but he's barely played the last two years due to injuries and a lot of his production came off of screens which generally hasn't been a big part of our offense. Kadarius Toney - 6.8 - 6'0", 193 lbs, elite athletic scores, "some might say he has generational YAC abilities", moves in a way that nobody else really does, great hands, elite acceleration but top speed isn't anything special, "wholly unpolished route-runner", dealt with injury issues his first 3 years of college Pretty much everyone I follow on draft twitter has basically said no matter how desperate you are, you should just skip this year's class of one-tech DTs lol.

No offense taken. At the end of the day, it's just something I do for fun and there's so much that goes into whether or not a prospect pans out that you can never know when grading guys, especially if you're just a random person like me that doesn't have connections to all the coaches and whatnot. I'm pretty happy with my track record so far. I was a lot higher on Mahomes and Lamar than most people and lower on Rosen and Haskins than most. The Herbert and Darnold grades are definitely trending in the wrong direction for me though haha. Some grades will always look bad though; high potential guys that never reached their potential or high floor guys that are technically high floor but also replaceable players. So for example, the 85-89 range means I think they'll be a starter but either have a relatively low ceiling (like Daniel Jones, who I thought would likely be a low-end starter which is precisely what he's been) or a low chance of reaching their ceiling (like Drew Lock, who I said would likely be a Nick Foles caliber player, which is basically what he's been outside of the one fluke year Foles had with Philly, but that Lock had the potential to develop into a very good starter, which he has failed to do). Re: Mac, he's a fine athlete. People have made a way bigger deal out of that locker room picture than they should have; he can move, he just chooses not to. I think he's overrated as a passer though. There's times where he moves the defense with his eyes and throws a WR open that really stand out for a college player, but people have a tendency to see productive passers that don't have great arms and assume they have elite accuracy and that just isn't the case with Mac. He's certainly a lot more accurate than Trey Lance by comparison, but his accuracy is just pretty good. I have a 3rd round grade on Mac personally. I don't doubt Kyle Shanahan's ability to build a productive offense around him if that's ultimately their pick but I think he has a pretty low ceiling and I don't really view him as a high floor guy either.

I think it's a good group too, but I don't think Wilson and Fields are anywhere near Lawrence like some people say. For me, it's more on par with most of the recent draft classes. I haven't finished grading the Day 2-3 targets yet, but looking back at my grades since the Mahomes draft, I have the following with 1st round grades (2021 class bolded): 96 – Trevor Lawrence 94 – Patrick Mahomes 93 – Lamar Jackson/Joe Burrow 92 – Tua Tagovailoa 91 – Sam Darnold 88 – Josh Allen/Drew Lock 87 – Baker Mayfield/Deshaun Watson/Justin Fields 86 – Daniel Jones/Jordan Love/Trey Lance 85 – Mitch Trubisky 84 – Josh Rosen/Zach Wilson 81 – Dwayne Haskins/Jacob Eason 80 – Justin Herbert

Honestly think the QBs are a little overrated for the most part too. Lawrence is an incredible prospect but Fields is my #2 and I have him a hair behind Josh Allen's pre-draft grade (who was my #3 that year behind Lamar and Darnold).