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I'm definitely rooting for Mills. Of the QBs I watched, I think he made 2 of the top 3 or 4 throws I saw. At his highest moments, it looks like Philip Rivers out there; throwing balls with absurd anticipation and putting just the right touch on it to get the ball up over the LBs and underneath the safeties. But his lows are so low and it just scares me seeing this dude with a bulky knee brace moving around so awkwardly. I try to ignore injuries in my grading and just stick to grading the skillset, but it looks to me like his knee is still affecting his play.
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I'm still hoping to get through Kellen Mond and maybe Jamie Newman, but my grades on the QBs that I've scouted this year: Trevor Lawrence - 96 - lock to be a franchise QB Justin Fields - 87 - Top 15 pick, skeptical he ever reaches his ceiling (being a top 10 QB) but think he's a high floor, high ceiling guy. Trey Lance - 86 - Top 15 pick, lower floor and slightly lower ceiling than Fields, but should still be at worst a below average starter and has a pretty high ceiling Zach Wilson - 81 - Late 1st round pick, just don't think he has the potential to be an elite QB; I have his ceiling as a less mobile Kyler Murray. Mac Jones - 76 - 3rd round pick, I think he most likely settles in as a backup. Ceiling to me is Brad Johnson. Davis Mills - 75 - 3rd round pick, higher ceiling than Mac Jones but I'm skeptical he'll get there. If I had to bet, I'd say he's fighting for a roster spot in a few years; he just doesn't look healthy to me but he does do some special stuff. Kyle Trask - 67 - 6th-7th round pick, I just don't see it at all. I think his ceiling is Kyle Orton and his floor is a practice-squad guy.
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I'm kinda bewildered by Fields seemingly sliding. I do think his knack for missing open guys is concerning, but I think he's a high floor, high ceiling player. He's an elite passer with elite athleticism; teams should be fawning over him. Instead, there's been a lot of reports that the media/draft twitter community is higher on Fields than the NFL is and that he could end up sliding. We now even have Allbright speculating he could slide into the teens and Chris Simms projecting that he's taken with the last pick in the first round. I feel very confident that in the very least, you get a bigger and more accurate Tyrod Taylor out of him and he has top 10 QB potential. That's a great range of outcomes. I'm not even sure Mac's ceiling is above that baseline.
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Bucky Brooks Suggests Ravens Should Pick Fields
DCOrange replied to Coach Tuesday's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It really shouldn't. Lance is more pro-ready than anyone outside of Lawrence IMO, particularly for what Shanahan wants to do with his offense. The team that really should have tried the graduating QBs idea was the Rams. McVay really just needs a robot that will make the throws he tells them to make; that isn't all that hard to find. They screwed the pooch giving Goff the contract they did. If the Ravens were to try it (which they won't), it would mean rebuilding the entire offense around the new QB's skillset. Nobody can replicate what Lamar does for better or worse and that includes Fields. -
Ty Dunne: Motor can lift Bills to super bowl
DCOrange replied to BillsMafi$'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He was literally comped to Cam Newton throughout the draft process. -
Bucky Brooks Suggests Ravens Should Pick Fields
DCOrange replied to Coach Tuesday's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I don't think there's really any chance whatsoever that Fields can do what Lamar does as a runner. Fields is a significantly better passer though. At any rate, they already found an MVP caliber QB; I can't imagine they'll move on from him. -
Ty Dunne: Motor can lift Bills to super bowl
DCOrange replied to BillsMafi$'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I would agree he just didn't pass the eye test this year after passing as a rookie. A look at some related numbers (league ranking in parentheses) is a bit of a mixed bag. He's been mostly above average as a runner across both seasons Yards After Contact per Attempt: 2019: 3.00 (21) 2020: 3.17 (14) Tackles Avoided per Attempt: 2019: 0.24 (7) 2020: 0.21 (9) Rush Yards over Expected per Attempt: 2019: 0.43 (17) 2020: 0.29 (22) The issue continues to be that he struggles as a pass blocker and receiver. Drop % (minimum of 20 targets for a RB) 2019: 12.8% (5) 2020: 10.6% (10) -
McShay- Bills trying to move up above 23 for Etienne
DCOrange replied to Reed83HOF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'd gladly take Moore but I don't want to trade up and I think he'll end up going in the late teens or early 20s. -
McShay- Bills trying to move up above 23 for Etienne
DCOrange replied to Reed83HOF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Ben Allbright who's called a few of the Bills recent picks is also among those that thinks Buffalo is going RB unless someone unexpectedly falls in their lap at 30. He specifically says McBeane don't want Allen to be taking a lot of hits anymore. -
McShay- Bills trying to move up above 23 for Etienne
DCOrange replied to Reed83HOF's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
And here I thought taking a RB at #30 was worst case scenario. -
Falcons Shopping Julio Jones
DCOrange replied to Mike in Horseheads's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He's missed 11 games over the past 7 years. Easily worth the gamble of a Day 2 pick IMO if you can fit his contract under your cap. -
Call your shot: Who will the Bills pick in the 1st round?
DCOrange replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I still think it can go in a lot of different directions (duh, we're picking 30th), but I'm going to stick to my guns with Joseph Ossai. -
Falcons Shopping Julio Jones
DCOrange replied to Mike in Horseheads's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I don't foresee them getting a 1st round pick for him but I've been wrong before. Would be an interesting buy-lowish candidate for a team like Miami, Jacksonville, or Baltimore though. -
Who are the 49er's going to take at 3
DCOrange replied to wagne591's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It should be a choice between Fields and Lance IMO. Philosophically, I think you ask yourself if you believe it's easier to teach a promising young QB a new system (Fields) or take the promising young QB who's already comfortable in the system and coach up his footwork and accuracy (Lance). I don't think they can really go wrong between those two personally. I have a slightly higher grade on Fields but I think Lance will transition to the 49ers system more smoothly than Fields would. Might depend on if they truly want to keep Jimmy for this year or not; I think both can and probably should start as rookies but as I said, I think it's probably a smoother transition for Lance so if they took him, they could theoretically cash in on Jimmy in a trade now. With Mac, you're probably confident that he can run Shanahan's scheme, but aside from being a decisive passer, he hasn't really done the things that Shanahan expects of his QBs and he doesn't have the tools to excite teams either, so to me, he's a relatively low floor low ceiling option. -
Orlando Brown traded to the Chiefs for 1st Rd Pick
DCOrange replied to CaptnCoke11's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
They don't really need another offensive lineman IMO. All the starting spots are spoken for and they have solid depth now too. WR and Defense IMO is where they can get potential immediate upgrades. -
Orlando Brown traded to the Chiefs for 1st Rd Pick
DCOrange replied to CaptnCoke11's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'd be surprised if he's not at LT. Probably move Remmers back over to the right tackle and they have themselves a good line again. -
Orlando Brown traded to the Chiefs for 1st Rd Pick
DCOrange replied to CaptnCoke11's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Based on the DraftTek trade chart it's basically the equivalent of KC trading a 2nd round pick for Brown. Pretty good deal for both parties IMO. Wonder what Baltimore ends up doing with their two firsts. Could theoretically move up from where they are if they want to. -
He has a point, and if it wasn't coming from Brady, nobody would really care about this non-story. He's probably exaggerating how significant the change will be, but it likely will make it at least a little tougher on the OLines, and it's not like there's anything really to be gained from the rule change outside of some more revenue for the league as players change their numbers. This was likely a "break glass in case of emergency" rule for the NFL if they ever lost revenue like they did this past season.
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Granted OKC is barely an NBA team but still, really impressive. I didn't think he had it in him. I saw he got himself a 3 year deal with Indiana after that (though I'm guessing at least 1 if not 2 of the years are basically non-guaranteed). Really happy to see him proving himself.
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Potential Hint to Draft Priorities?
DCOrange replied to glazeduck's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It isn't an immediate need, but depending on who you take they could conceivably replace McKenzie's role this year or be in line for a significant role the following year. -
Potential Hint to Draft Priorities?
DCOrange replied to glazeduck's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This isn't really something that can be proven considering we don't have Beane's board. At any rate, I feel like every team says they draft BPA and it just so happens that the BPA in their opinion is something they need lol. -
Justin Fields confirms epilepsy rumor
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
As someone that was extremely high on Burrow and relatively low (3rd round grade) on Mac, I actually don't think Burrow's arm is much better in terms of velocity. But he was a far more accurate passer than Mac, far better moving around in the pocket, and significantly better in his reads (though Mac is quite good in this regard).