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I'd say it's possible but I wouldn't be super confident on draft night that he's actually slipping that far. I'll say this though; 5 QBs have been taken in the top 20 exactly once in NFL history...there's a pretty decent chance that at least one of the big 5 slips to 21; I'd bet it's Mayfield or Lamar Jackson.

Lmao, did he actually say that? I was at the game

It looks like somebody altered the clip to make the ball move in slow motion. Peterman is just excruciating.

There's a post on Reddit right now about how a guy drafted a kicker named Rich Fugger; cracked me up so much. The AI really is pretty brutal in that game; I play in an online franchise with 31 other guys and it's so much better that way.

If I could have anyone else in this draft regardless of draft position, it would probably be Roquon; I just think he's perfect for a McDermott defense. In terms of someone that I think Buffalo actually has a shot at and will be a very good player, I'd probably go with Vita Vea or Ronald Jones. I'd also love to see a guy like Jaylen Samuels just out of the curiosity of seeing how he's used in the NFL; likewise with Hercules Mata'afa.

According to PFF: Lamar: 8.5% Mayfield: 8.0% Rosen: 7.5% Rudolph: 6.6% Allen: 4.8% Darnold: 4.3%

Yeah, I think after Lamar, nobody was impacted as much by drops as Mayfield was in terms of drop %. I literally just took the numbers straight from PFF; I didn't make adjustments in terms of the overall adjusted completion %. I also think I threw that together before the bowl games. Edit: PFF has his adjusted completion percentage at 82.5% now.

I don't know if it's possible to quantify it, but I've seen countless examples of Lamar staying in the pocket even when it gets congested; it seems to me like the overwhelming majority of his runs are designed runs rather than running away from pressure. His footwork is a bit of a mess though.

This is kinda where I'm at too. The only free agent QB (aside from Cousins) that I think would be an upgrade over Tyrod is Bradford, but obviously health is a gigantic question with him. I definitely think there are upgrades available in the draft. But if we want the best veteran QB available, it's probably Tyrod. If you're content to paying a scrub like Derek Anderson to be the opening day starter and accept next season as a rebuilding year, that's fine. But if Buffalo is trying to win next season, I'm afraid Tyrod (plus hopefully one of the top 5 QB prospects) is likely the best choice.

I wouldn't rule out the theory, but something smells about Manish Mehta of all people getting the scoop on this.

Lamar's actually my #1 in this year's class with Darnold #2. I think with his running ability, he can play early on and he has maybe the most potential in the class (probably between him and Allen, who I view as a longer shot to ever reach his potential).

Thats not how ProFootballFocus operates

He's certainly no Peterman, but he's still a pretty solid QB.

Haven't you seen the reports about the beef between Belichick and Brady? Belichick is 100% going to trade Brady this offseason, and where did he trade his last incumbent starter to? Checkmate. Brady will be a Bill by August.

Yes.

Literally only because the WRs couldn't catch to save their lives this year. If you adjust for drops, Lamar's completion percentage was above Darnold and within 1% of Rosen and Rudolph.

Vick was definitely faster, but there isn't a chance in hell that Lamar is anywhere near a 4.78 lol. I don't understand how someone that lives in the area and has watched him for 2 years can possibly think he's significantly slower than the likes of Andrew Luck, Connor Shaw, and Derek Carr.

No effing chance that Lamar runs a 4.78.

And I believe that was just on a regular pass; he wasn't even necessarily trying to throw it as hard as possible. I'm curious to see what his velocity is at the Combine just for the sheer absurdity of it.

I'd gladly take him at 21, and if Buffalo were already sitting up higher, I'd be fine taking him then too. But as much as I like him, trading multiple 1st round picks + more to get him is just too risky IMO.

Figured I'd post Lamar's since the other threads were all posted too.

Or just keeping Tyrod instead, yeah. I think it would be negligent to trade up for a LB and risk having Peterman/a 2nd or later round pick as your best QB option for 2019.

In this hypothetical scenario, I'd assume some veteran QB + another developmental prospect (with Peterman at least in camp too). Whether it's Keenum, Bradford, a scrub like Derek Anderson, or even just keeping Tyrod, I'm not sure. But if they decide to move up for a LB, I don't think they can really afford to not have a veteran in place in case none of the top 5 QB prospects slide to #22 (hypothetically speaking, I'm assuming Buffalo only trades one of their 2018 first round picks to move up for a LB).

I continue to think this is a distinct possibility too. The LBs are probably the most important part of the McD defense and Buffalo pretty much needs to overhaul that position group entirely. I could definitely see a move up for Roquon or Edmunds.

Yeah, but you're forgetting that Allen (who missed games this year from a shoulder injury) is much more durable than Lamar (who has never missed a game).