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I feel like this tracking is new this year (or at least new to the public) so I'm not sure what exactly to make of it, but it's certainly interesting.

I really can't get over Mitchell's combine. I don't know what to make of it. A guy that explosive with his size and route running ability should have been dominating college competition and instead he's near the bottom of the entire draft class in a lot of the production metrics. I just revisited his film for a third time a couple days ago and now I'm wondering if I have to do it again lol. I just don't get it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/edit#gid=1244172747

All of the WRs that didn't get an opportunity to catch it in bounds on their first attempt were given a second one.

I'm lukewarm on his film and his metrics were pretty dreadful. I wouldn't describe him as a Combine-only stud by any means, but the speed he showed today did not show up on film at all IMO. He's a downfield threat for sure, but it was more in the same vein as Coleman rather than a Brian Thomas or Xavier Worthy type.

4.35 for Adonai Mitchell, holy hell

McConkey faster than Legette is going to surprise some people lol

Yeah...if that's the best Coleman is able to do he's getting bumped out of the first round.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbgXALH2Ld6TqvXCiBZC7dWnoN2s8J5-2OrpZUOl1HA/edit?pli=1#gid=1531643954 Hand sizes are included in this spreadsheet. JJ McCarthy had the smallest at 9". Drake Maye was 9.125". Penix had the largest hands at 10.5".

He was supposed to be. I know he skipped the measurements but not sure if he's skipping athletic testing/drills too. He did measure at 5'10.5" and 215 at the Senior Bowl.

They're currently doing the vert and broad jumps but it isn't being shown on TV. I'll list some of the measurements for the notable guys below, but here's a link for the vert and broad: https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/vertical-jump/wr/all-colleges/ https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/broad-jump/wr/all-colleges/ Verts: Xavier Legette - 40" Adonai Mitchell - 39.5" Troy Franklin - 39" Jermaine Burton - 38.5" Keon Coleman - 38" Jalen McMillan - 37" Javon Baker - 37" Jacob Cowing - 36" Ladd McConkey - 36" Broad: Adonai Mitchell - 11'4" Jermaine Burton - 11'1" Keon Coleman - 10'7" Jalen McMillan - 10'7" Xavier Legette - 10'6" Troy Franklin - 10'4" Ladd McConkey - 10'4" Javon Baker - 10'1" Jacob Cowing - 9'11"

I think Jerry was at the Senior Bowl but not sure if that was to watch him or networking or whatever (I actually have no idea if Jerry works for the media or anything lol)

I do think he's presently in a similar mold as Gabe (in terms of not being a burner but still giving you most of his value on vertical routes) but simply better; like I think he'll thrive on backshoulder type throws that Gabe wasn't particularly good at in addition to being a weapon down the field. Question is if you can take his youth and develop him/take the elusiveness that he's shown after the catch/on punt returns and unlock some stuff that Gabe unfortunately never did. I think he's one of very few options beyond the top 3 WRs where there's a fairly reasonable track to him turning into a #1 WR. A lot of risk if his contested catches don't translate though.

6'2.88"

6'3.25" and 213 lbs for Keon Coleman; tied with Harrison for the tallest WR so far and the heaviest WR by 1 lb so far over Odunze. Was listed at 6'4" and 215 so relatively spot on. A couple other sleeper candidates that some of the people here like: Javon Baker: 6'1.25" and 202 Jermaine Burton: 6'0.25" and 196

To be fair, we haven't gotten measurements on Coleman yet lol. But I do expect him to be among the biggest WRs in the class.

I knew Worthy and Franklin were going to come in light, but those weights are kinda eye popping. I agree on Mitchell though; not like 6'2" is short by any means but he looks taller than that to my eye and part of the allure with him was that 6'4" guys don't usually have the flexibility/loose hips that he does.

The wind in Buffalo might be enough to snap Xavier Worthy or Troy Franklin in half.

Updating my spreadsheet as WR measurements come in: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/edit#gid=1244172747 Differences compared to how some of the guys we might be targeting were listed: AD Mitchell came in at 6'2.25" and 205 vs. listed 6'4" and 196 Xavier Worthy came in at 5'11.25" and 165 vs. listed 6'1" and 172 Troy Franklin came in at 6'1.88" and 176 vs. listed 6'3" and 187 Brian Thomas came in at 6'2.88" and 209 vs. listed 6'4" and 205

One of the best offenses in the league is silly, but with their cap space and the amount of offensive talent available this offseason, they could be a playoff contender next season if they play their cards right.

It depends on how much patience Robert Kraft is willing to have with building the team up. Ideally, I'd probably take a similar approach to what Beane did early on here; a lot of short-term contracts so you aren't committing to a lot before you get your QB. Take a flier on a short-term QB; Drew Lock if you're willing to go more high-risk. Maybe Tannehill if you just want some competence at QB while you survey the rest of the roster. I would definitely put a lot of the cap space towards receivers and O-Line; guys like Gabe and Calvin Ridley would probably be near the top of my list at WR. I won't pretend to know who the best choices are for O-Line but it seems like there's a pretty decent amount of talent out there this offseason. Main point is to bring in solid players on short-term deals (might make an exception for the WRs). As for the draft, it seems like there's starting to be some real talk about Drake Maye sliding out of the top 2. If he falls to 3, it's an easy choice. If Caleb and Maye go in the first two picks, I'd see what kind of offers people make for the #3 pick and probably move down if possible. If none of the offers feel great, take Marvin Harrison Jr. and keep it moving. If you can slide down and still end up with Nabers/Odunze, that would be excellent. O-Line would be good too. Maybe consider QB in the 2nd round depending on who is still there. I think I'd definitely consider Bo Nix if he's there and I'd kinda consider Penix, but in all likelihood, I'd probably end up going in another direction and just take a flier or two on Day 3. I haven't finished scouting the guys outside the top 6 QBs yet though; I know Spencer Rattler and Michael Pratt in particular have some fans but I can't say where I'd consider taking them right now. The overarching point here though is that Caleb and Maye are the only two QBs I would take in the 1st round this year, so if they end up not being available, I would just slow play it for the season and see what happens next year.

It could change after the Combine, but I don't think anyone is really projecting Mitchell to go in the first 27 picks. The highest I've seen him so far is like 30-32. I do think he and Coleman are two guys where people have relatively low expectations for the Combine so they could surprise people and move up the boards. Could definitely go the other way too though.

Not sure if this really fits for this thread, but it was said at the Combine. I'm cracking up; this makes me believe people will actually say this every season. There's no way anyone could have watched film of next year's class and actually think it's better than this year's.

I’m not knocking him over stuff like his father personally. I just don’t think he’s a can’t miss QB prospect the way Burrow and Lawrence for example were. Caleb has incredible physical gifts, but I don’t think his accuracy is anything to write home about right now; he particularly struggled with placement on intermediate passes. His reads pre-snap and immediately post-snap are atrocious IMO. He created so many places for USC but if he could simply read a defense, his life would have been a lot easier. And he has a lot of the same mechanical flaws that Maye has (which to be fair, I think are very fixable). But the main thing is I simply think Maye is a better passer right now and much better reading the defense.

I only have Caleb as my QB2 and a mid-1st round grade rather than the consensus opinion that he's a generational prospect. Having said that, I think if Caleb had a credible team around him in college, they would have won a lot of games. They still went 8-5 but their defense was literally one of the worst in the entire country; not even just talking about the power conferences. And the OLine and receivers weren't particularly good either.