DCOrange

If people didn't care what Mora thinks, they wouldn't be making such a big deal about what he said in the first place. I just think the particular part that people are freaking out about is misguided.

People seem to be focusing on the "he needs to know why" part for some reason when it seems like the more negative parts of what Mora said was his implication that Rosen often loses focus and "has many interests" when people are already questioning if he cares more about outside things than he does football.

I kept reading through all the comments looking for some sort of reason to believe that this tweet was related to Mora's quotes too. I don't get it either.

I didn't say that the results have been borne out re: #2 and #3; simply that it's easier to justify doing it since the cost is relatively much lower. #3 in particular would be impossible to prove. For example, I'd say that the EJ Manuel selection probably doesn't happen if the rookie scale didn't exist because Buffalo knew he was a project when they took him and most intelligent organizations wouldn't want to pay a project as if he's a top 5-10 QB in the NFL, which is essentially what was happening before the rookie scale. As far as #2 goes, again, I didn't say it's been borne out in the results, but for what it's worth, the number of QBs taken in the 1st round and the number of trade-ups for QBs in the 1st round have both increased since the rookie scale was put in place, especially in the last few years. From 2005 to 2010, there was a total of 7 trade-ups for QBs in the first round. In the past 2 years, we've had 6 (and counting this year's draft, we already have one with the Jets and almost certainly will see others).

Way too many catches with his body for my liking personally. Good to see a UB kid getting some love though. This is another under-the-radar WR that I like at the moment.

I think it's possible for a team with McCarron as the QB to be a playoff team. I do not think Buffalo is that team though; at least not now. I expect them to take a pretty significant step backwards this year honestly.

The rookie cap has certainly had an impact in a few ways: 1. Rookie QBs don't cost a ton more than any other position like they used to in the past 2. It's easier to justify trading up when you don't have to trade all your draft picks plus make your choice the highest paid player at his position 3. It's easier to justify gambling on a raw prospect because you're not completely screwed if a draft pick doesn't pan out anymore

No. I think he mentioned back around the Senior Bowl that he was hoping to go back and retroactively add QBs from past draft classes to the dataset too but I'm not sure if that's still in the plans or not. Edit: I talked to him a few minutes ago and he said that he plans on working on it in the summer

This isn’t a terrible outcome. I’d love Roquan here and Hughes and Gesicki should both be pretty good. I’m not really comfortable taking Rudolph that high but it is what it is.

Related: a couple of tables summarizing some of the findings from this report: green = good relative to the other QBs. Red is the opposite.

Benjamin Solak published a study during the Senior Bowl where he basically charted every pass that he could find from the Senior Bowl QBs and sliced and diced it in a million different ways; the most notable one to me being the differentiation between an "accurate" pass (basically think of this as catchable) and a well-placed pass (maximizing YAC, protecting the WR from the DB, throwing it where only the WR can get it, etc.) He's now finished charting all of the non-Senior Bowl QBs and has published the overall findings which you can view at the link below. https://d3d2maoophos6y.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/25/2018/03/30143754/2018-Contextualized-Quarterbacking.pdf

Quoting my own post on a similar thread...I'd also add Dorian O'Daniel and Genard Avery as LBs that I'd be interested in. Not necessarily the best post-first round guys, but some of the guys that I like to watch: QBs: Kyle Lauletta: Luis Perez: RBs: Nyheim Hines: Ronald Jones: Martez Carter: WRs: Trey Quinn: J'Mon Moore:

The rumors at Louisville were that he ran in the low 4.3's...I'd be really surprised if he were actually that fast. And I'd guess he didn't want to waste time preparing for a 40 yard dash when he knows he needs to prove doubters wrong about his passing ability.

Certainly a possibility!

If we assumed that this report is correct, I would imagine that Denver trades up from their 2nd round pick to take him rather than trading down from 5 to take him. They could theoretically take Nelson or Barkley at 5 and then get Rudolph at the back end of the 1st round. I don't think either of those things are particularly true. His accuracy is pretty spotty and he's generally slow in diagnosing coverage. Edit: I wouldn't say he's inaccurate, but I also wouldn't consider accuracy to be a strength of his. The only real strengths I would say for him is that he's tall and he does a really nice job of sliding around the pocket.

I love Lamar and have him as my #1 QB, but he was kinda all over the place at the Combine, and his bad throws were probably worse than anyone else's. One of his deep balls was literally like 15 yards short of its target.

Should be noted that Tony Pauline reported that the Bills sent their QB coach and one assistant to go see Falk...have we sent more than just a scout to any other pro day that I missed or is this the first one?

No idea what Buffalo will do, but I don't think I'd give up anything more than a Day 3 pick for Beckham honestly. I just have no interest in the type of contract he's seeking at all. I'd be willing to trade a Day 3 pick to have him on an expiring deal but that's probably it.

I think an underrated angle for the Bills that people don't seem to mention much is the idea that they'll move up from #22 rather than from #12. If for example, 4 QBs go in the top 5, Buffalo can take their star LB at #12 and then make a much smaller and cheaper move up from #22 to get Lamar if they so desire. All of the trade chips that Buffalo has accumulated doesn't necessarily need to be in order to move up from #12.

I'd love to have Edmunds but I don't foresee Alexander being a 1st round pick, nor do I envision him being a guy that Buffalo would target. Tremaine Edmunds and Jaire Alexander

I don't know about $17 million, but Bell might be the only RB in the NFL where I'd argue that having him is better than having a good, cheap committee.

Lance is the guy that writes every single scouting report for NFL.com's draft prospect pages.

The guy that was a late 3rd round pick in a terrible QB class? I don't really recall many outside of Texas fanboys thinking he had any shot at a HOF career; I'm pretty sure he was generally regarded as a low-ceiling guy.

Just playing devil's advocate because I think you're probably right, but there were reports coming out of the Senior Bowl that teams thought Mayfield came across as entitled and that Allen wanted it more than him