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Albright when asked where DK goes...
DCOrange replied to *******'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
DK is roughly 1-2 years younger than most of the other WR prospects; he was just 19 when he put up those 650 yards. That's very rare; ranked in the 72nd percentile of NFL receivers in terms of his breakout age. So while the numbers itself aren't that big (besides this most recent season when he was on pace for over 1000 yards), he's shown promise at a younger age than most of the other guys in this class. Combine that with his size/speed, ability to beat press coverage (which might be the best in the class), and his sheer acceleration (most big guys that are fast take awhile to get up to top speed, whereas his 10-yard split relative to his size is the best we've seen in at least a decade), and you have as good a deep threat as we've seen in quite some time who also has two years to catch up to his peers in the categories that he's currently lacking in. And in the case of the Bills specifically, there's very few WRs in this draft that make sense as a fit in the X spot in the offense. It's basically DK, Harmon, Arcega-Whiteside, Boykin, and then a guy like Jamal Custis late on Day 3, so he fits a need that very few other WRs can fit while also being a very good prospect regardless of fit IMO. -
Albright when asked where DK goes...
DCOrange replied to *******'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The thing is, nobody on our team really makes sense lining up on the line of scrimmage. Brown, Beasley, and Zay in particular are pretty much only effective if they can line up off the line so that they can't be pressed. I'm not really sure about Foster off the top of my head; I remember him beating press at least sometimes but I don't know how often that really was. DK is maybe the best in the draft class at beating press coverage. So while he's a deep threat like Brown/Foster are, he brings something to the table that nobody on the team is currently capable of (besides maybe Foster; like I said, I'm not sure about him). -
Albright when asked where DK goes...
DCOrange replied to *******'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Literally all of those teams besides maybe Oakland could easily justify taking a WR. -
My guess would be that they sit back at 40 and let a good player fall to them, though I think I've made it pretty clear by now that I personally would want to move up for DK.While my top 5 WRs are all still available, he's the only one that I think is a no-brainer starter from Day 1 (assuming his medicals have checked out) simply because there's no real competition as the X receiver. They can take someone like Deebo Samuel, who I personally have as the #2 WR in the draft, and he might be able to line up as the X, but he's on the smaller side as far as X's go and most seem to think he makes more sense in the slot where he'd be competing with Beasley and Zay for playing time. Likewise for AJ Brown, who isn't in my top 5, but very well may be in Buffalo's.At the end of the day, guys that without diving into it too much would seemingly fit needs are (in order of their draft grade on NFL.com:1. Jawaan Taylor 2. DK3. Greedy4. Parris Campbell5. AJ Brown 6. Cody Ford 7. Dalton Risner 8. Deebo Samuel 9. Byron Murphy10. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson11. Irv Smith 12. Rock Ya-Sin 13. Greg Little14. Juan Thornhill15. Jaylon FergusonGuys in bold are the ones that I think at least loosely would be a good fit, though like I mentioned, AJ Brown and Deebo aren't perfect fits the way DK is.I would think that Buffalo is very, very high on Risner, Byron Murphy, Irv Smith, Rock Ya-Sin, and Jaylon Ferguson in particular. I don't think we should really be taking a corner this high, but Murphy and Rock are basically perfect fits for McDermott's defense so I don't think they can be written off.
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I had Quinnen and Bosa flipped so I didn't even get the first 3 exactly right. Ended up with 3 perfect matches on the night: Kyler, Devin White (who I think was pretty obvious), and Garrett Bradbury. I had 4 others where I got the correct player/team match, but they got them at a different spot than I expected (Haskins, Jacobs, Savage, and Daniel Jones). And then I had 3 additional guys where I had their draft position perfectly pegged but got the team wrong (Devin Bush, Christian Wilkins, and Montez Sweat). 24 of my guys ended up going in the 1st round with the outsiders being DK, Greedy, Rock Ya-Sin, Lock, AJ Brown, Cody Ford, and Deebo Samuel. I got 16/32 team/position combos correctly, which I feel like is pretty solid until I look at WalterFootball's Charlie Campbell who had ELEVEN perfect picks (and 12 if you include he had Houston taking Tytus Howard in the 2nd round). At the end of the day, we came away with my #1 hopeful choice at #9 and the #2 choice (DK) is still available. On top of DK being available, my entire top 5 WRs are all available; needless to say, I'm very happy with how things are situated right now. I'd probably be trying to trade up for DK at this point (assuming the medicals aren't an issue, which, who knows?) just because I think he fits a need at WR in a way that none of the other WRs I'm high on do, but I would guess that Beane sees all the receiving talent still out there and doesn't feel much pressure to move up.
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Yep. Had the #1 guy I was hoping for fall to us and now all 5 of my top 5 WRs are still available for Day 2, including my #2 choice at pick #9.
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All 5 of my top 5 WRs in the draft are still available so that’s nice.
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Really hoping for a trade up for DK at this point but there’s a ton of talent left. We should be very happy with who is available at 40 if we stay there.
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I agree that it’s a relatively disappointing class. Just think teams will reach on corners as they tend to do. I personally like Byron Murphy, especially as a team fit in Buffalo, but I couldn’t really find a good landing spot.
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Not that I'm anyone special, but I put together a mock each year where I try to guess where the trades will be and everything and have published my final mock for this season here: https://draftqbs.wordpress.com/2019-mock-draft/ It doesn't include my rationale in the post itself, but I'd be happy to explain any choices that you might have questions about. Edit: May need to make alterations with the Montez Sweat news. Still reading up on it to figure out if it's really believable or just smoke on draft day.
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Your final prediction: Who will the Bills draft in round 1
DCOrange replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Want: Oliver/DK get: Brian Burns -
Who’s the ONE guy that you want in this draft?
DCOrange replied to McBean's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Marquise Brown vs. Tavon Austin
DCOrange replied to TC in St. Louis's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think Hollywood is a fine prospect, but he's not among my top 5 WRs and I don't think he's a particularly good fit here. -
Select 2 players that will be drafted by Buffalo
DCOrange replied to HOUSE's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Pick #1: Dalton Risner, OL, Kansas State Pick #2: Mike Edwards, S, Kentucky -
2019 Wonderlic scores/Bob McGinn
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Devil's advocate though: Hollywood was so good at creating separation in college...if he creates that same separation in the NFL, it increases the margin for error arguably as much as having a large catch radius does. -
MMQB with a pretty lengthy article about the guy that they believe is the biggest sleeper in the class. They won't reveal his name until after the draft, but it's Drew Forbes, OG, from Southeast Missouri State. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/23/nfl-draft-most-overlooked-small-school-sleeper-prospect?utm_source=reddit.com
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Yes but that same logic applies to TE. They've hosted just as many TEs as WRs on official visits (based on the assumption that Hockenson was brought in) and like Metcalf, Hockenson is the only one projected to possibly go in the top 10. The other TEs are nowhere near as highly rated as the WRs are; nobody would be shocked if Harry, Brown, or Deebo are taken in the first round. Pretty much everybody would be shocked if Knox, Sternberger, or Wesco were taken in the first round.
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Sure but that will be the case no matter what they do at #1. 49ers are adding an elite defensive lineman no matter what and Arizona is not taking an offensive lineman at #1. If they are as high on Murray as people believe, they think he'll be able to get rid of the ball or evade Bosa/Quinnen/Allen.
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2019 Wonderlic scores/Bob McGinn
DCOrange replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Hollywood is probably a slot in the NFL; very possibly a mismatch nightmare in the slot, but a slot nonetheless and Buffalo now has Beasley and possibly Zay in the slot. DK would be lining up at the X, where Buffalo doesn't currently have anyone that fits well. The foot injury and size concerns are both legitimate concerns with Hollywood too (granted the neck injury may be a concern for Metcalf as well). -
I'm not sure it really makes sense to eliminate WR or CB just based on the number of official visits either; it makes sense that they'd bring more WRs and CBs in for visits considering (1) they're still potentially viewed as a need, and more importantly, (2) you generally have 3 or 4 WR/CBs on the field on most plays versus, for example, one TE. The CBs that were brought in were not 1st round prospects, so that can probably be safely ruled out, but in regard to WR for example, he eliminates WR from the list and keeps TE despite the fact that he believes 4 WRs and 4 TEs were brought in for official visits. So again, you're talking about a position where there's generally 3 or 4 times as many WRs on the field as there are TEs and yet we spent more visits on TEs, so based on this, the conclusion would seem to be that Buffalo is being more selective with WRs than they are with TEs. Of those visits, all 4 WRs are considered to be 1st round picks or fringe 1st round picks. The TEs, with the exception of Hockenson, are all considered to be Day 2 or Day 3 prospects. And yet Turner argues that it's the WR position that's being evaluated for depth rather than the TE position. I don't really follow that logic. It seems to me that if we're eliminating WR, we should also eliminate TE based on the same logic.
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His list of options at #9 is based specifically on the rationale that every first round pick Beane has made has been someone that came in for an official visit. The senior bowl meetings, combine meetings, etc. do not matter for that part of the article. He even makes sure to bold it so that readers can't miss it:
