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I think this is all fair, though Worthy was still trending up over the 2nd half of the season (a couple invisible portions of games notwithstanding). Worthy was ultimately better than Coleman in year 1, though there was a handful of rookie WRs better than both of them this year, including one or two that were drafted after them). We'll see if that continues to be the case moving forwards. Coleman looked pretty promising earlier in the year before he got hurt; hopefully he'll continue to improve over the offseason and turn into a good starter for us. I certainly recognize some people's frustrations with him, especially over the 2nd half of the year when he was mostly invisible. I think it was a solid rookie season overall though, especially given how young and raw he is. It just so happens that this class was very, very good so merely being solid is still outside the top 5 rookie WRs.

Not sure to be honest, but the teams that have made it that far in the playoffs without really ever having a high scoring game the way the Chiefs did this season is pretty rare too.

Honestly could say this for pretty much all of our receiving options. Kincaid - revealed torn PCL and other knee injuries that he was playing through Coleman - missed several games and simply didn't look like the same player once he returned Cooper - rumors of him having to spend a ton of time with the training staff/weirdly underutilized (could maybe explain it as we went run-heavy and he's not as good a run blocker as Mack and Coleman but I'm skeptical that's the real reason) Samuel - turf toe or whatever it was that he had in the preseason is notoriously a nagging injury and particular important for his specific skill set and he was not moving like his usual self for like 80% of the season Entirely possible and maybe even likely that Kincaid and Coleman just aren't going to pan out the way we hoped, Cooper is over the hill, and Samuel just isn't as good as we thought he was, but there's at least a chance that all of them look much better next season. I assume Kincaid, Coleman, and Samuel will all be back and be given decent opportunity to prove themselves. Cooper probably walking but we'll see.

From a talent perspective, that would be a gigantic upgrade. He's obviously got a lot of issues that arguably make the talent not worth it though.

Saying he wasn't great is underselling it a bit. The only coach in NFL history with a worse winning percentage is Hue Jackson.

@GunnerBill Where are you at in your scouting process right now? Curious if you have some guys you already like/some guys you've circled to keep an eye on but haven't really finished scouting yet. I haven't seriously scouted the WRs at all this year, but just from watching some of the games on TV, Xavier Restrepo is one guy that I could easily see outplaying his draft position. But I know he's been comped by some to Khalil Shakir which obviously implies maybe too redundant of a skillset. The homer in me wouldn't mind seeing Jackson Meeks as a Day 3 pick.

You said he contributed far more than Coleman which is objectively false. If you want to argue that his per snap production being a rounding error higher than Coleman's suggests Worthy is a slam dunk and Coleman is a bust, so be it I guess but it's a silly take. If you simply think Worthy will continue to improve, Coleman will not, and as a result, Worthy will ultimately be a much better player long-term, I'm not going to argue you on that. But they were essentially equals as rookies; both okay but not as good as some of their peers (Nabers, Harrison, Thomas, McConkey, etc.) Then again, they were two of the youngest WRs in the draft and both considered to be raw so they never should have been expected to outperform more finished products like McConkey in their rookie season.

If I'm crunching the numbers right, we can convert base salary to bonuses for Josh and Dion to free up roughly $18 million (getting us to $15 mil in cap space) and then can cut Von to get up into the 30s. Don't have a ton of roster spots to fill so that space could theoretically go a long ways.

They were pretty much exactly equals if we're talking about this season. Coleman missed a handful of games, but Worthy averaged 43.6 yards per game to Coleman's 43.4 and if you care more about a per snap basis, Worthy was at 0.98 yards per snap compared to Coleman's 0.94. Essentially the same PFF grade, with Coleman being slightly higher than Worthy (68.8 vs. 65.2). Worthy was better tonight, and Coleman definitely faded down the stretch this season while Worthy improved, but to answer your question, no, Worthy did not contribute far more this season.

Regarding the screen, Josh saw them loading up to blitz and audibled to it. Probably 9 times out of 10, that goes for a first down. Karloftis or however you spell it made a great read and got over there in time to shut it down.

To be fair, Dungy ultimately did win a Super Bowl and is a literal Hall of Fame coach (and probably better historically than Gruden). And Tampa didn't have a young Gruden in the wings either; they traded multiple 1st and multiple 2nd round picks to get him.

I think there comes a time where you have to consider making a move and just hoping something different clicks a little better. Having said that, I think this was probably the best coaching year of McDermott's career and I think he's somewhere around the 4th-10th best coach in the league right now. Not much room for an upgrade and a ton of space for a downgrade. But you don't necessarily need an upgrade. Anyways, I personally would not move on from him this offseason and I don't think Buffalo will, but I get it if fans want to.

Just going to be watching from my house in DC today.

We went for a walk in the snow and ended up shaking off a tree that was blocking the road so that a few cars could access their street lol. Thankfully plows came through last night because we were definitely not going to be able to drive home otherwise.

I was at that game and remember thinking we should just run the ball at that moment because at the time, Josh was super prone to those back breaking sacks. And the terror I felt as he started retreating was not fun. I was also losing my mind at that halftime kickoff; most people hadn't returned to their seats yet when that happened and I was freaking out because I had noticed he never actually took a knee. At the time I thought it was a TD for us.