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1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said:
Hopefully the Bills don't make that mistake again and pick a QB by your description will be nothing more then a career backup. In the NFL you either get it or you won't.
Rodgers and Jimmy G. we're both lower graded qb prospects. Both of them sat and learned the nuances of the game. Look where they are at now far from a backup qb.
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2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
I never said we don't draft one, I'm firmly against trading the farm for one. I'd trade up in the right scenario. 21 + 53 could get us up to 10-12, would probably have to give up a 2019 pick as well. That's about as high as I'd like to see us go. Maybe Mayfield or Rosen slide a few spots due to character concerns.
What do the odds become of finding a guy as more and more qbs come off of the board? Sitting back and waiting rarely works. It's time to put our big boy pants on take control and do what this franchise has failed to do for far to long. Go in at all costs and get their guy they see leading this team for many many years.
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31 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
I've shown you statistics that provide examples as to what other teams have done. Why not learn from the mistakes of other people so you don't make the same mistakes yourself?
33% chance at best to find a franchise QB if we trade the farm for to get into the top 5.
Or we could take those 5 picks in the top 65 selections and build our own version of the Legion of Boom.
And your odds become 0% when you don't draft one. However you cannot breakdown odds of finding a franchise guy as a exact rate. Unless you do not draft a qb because then your odds will remain a consistent 0%.
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3 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said:
WRONG. I give Colts what they want without blinking. They traded away Peyton Manning (who is better than Luck) who had red flags, but he lead Broncs to 2 Super Bowls and got insane stats. Luck is definitely available. Rumors are coming out and a few people are suggesting that Colts trade Luck. There is something going on.
WRONG. Manning was not traded for. PPlus you said it yourself Manning is better than Luck. So why give up a ton of assets for a player that is going through a severe shoulder problem. The biggest thing people are failing to realize when comparing Manning to Luck is Manning was a free agent. The Broncos didn't have to give anything up for him. If he wasn't able to perform they still had draft picks they could use the following year on a qb. Odds are if you do trade for Luck you are not going to be able to get a top tier qb the following year. So the Manning and Luck comparisons are not even in the same ball park.
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1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said:
Letting a QB sit doesnt do anything but keep them from experiencing what they need to so they can become better. The only thing that can destroy a QB's career is if they were never meant to be a NFL QB in the first place.
No way. Sitting allows a qb to learn the nuances of the NFL. If a guy isn't mentally ready to play the game then you're just going to destroy him not develop him by putting him into start day 1. I believe you can teach the mental aspect of the game where as you cannot teach the physical aspwct of the game. So if the rookie has all the physical tools but is struggling with reading a defensive coverage or the terminology of the offense letting him sit and learn these thing would be way more beneficial than throwing him to the wolves. I feel like this does happen to guy which just slowly destroys them over time.
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This front office seems to be the most competent bunch we have had in a very long time. They know a great qb is the answer for winnig in the NFL. So yes I think they will trade up.
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Just now, Woodman19 said:
I wonder if trading Tyrod will stop the rumours that we are interested in Jackson.
No people just seem to say whatever they want at this time of the year with absolutely no facts to back up their claims. By the time the draft comes around the Bills will have fallen in love with 9 or 10 qbs according to different people.
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Let them battle it out. May the best man win. If it's the rookie great if not don't throw him in there and potentially destroy his career.
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So if this comes true Jimmy G would be making more then Cousins. Crazy who woulda thought?
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This is impossible to even make an educated guess on right now. Let's let the pieces fall into place a bit before we go rushing into guesses. There are way too many variables right now.
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31 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
Same for me, but just reverse those two names. Rosen is Eli Manning 2.0. Mayfield's height bothers me a little, but he has enough tools to overcome that disadvantage.
The reason why I have Mayfield over Rosen is Rosens concussion history.
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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
think he will be traded before the 2mill bonus is due
For some reason I just see him being more valuable as part of a trade up rather than by himself. Plus I don't see the Bills as in a desperate need to shed money now that TT was traded before his bonus kicked in.
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8 hours ago, Niagara Dude said:
Anyone who watched college football will tell you the Mayfield's results were result of system he played in, i hope the Bills do not waste a pick on this great college QB. Will the set the franchise back another 5-6 years. We have the draft capital to pick one of top guys and that is not Mayfield, midget QB'S are great in college football and then suffer in the pros because of vision down the field and getting passes knocked down at the line.
Either Rosen/Darold/ Allen or Jackson if we decide not to trade up but no midget QB'S and Mayfield is another Doug Flutie only 2 inches taller. Buffalo is a tough place to throw the football come late November and Dec. I just hope fans who keep posting to draft this guy will do your homework on this guy, we just got rid of a guy Taylor who was the same size and time to draft a guy who will be hear for the next 12-15 years.
You do realize Mayfield threw the ball the 2nd hardest at the combine only behind Allen right. It sounds like you havnt done your homework on Mayfield and only see how tall he is. After reading multiple posts of yours on Baker Mayfield I honestly don't think you have watched the guy play.
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Just now, KelsaysLunchbox said:
I really can't see it. If we go with a rookie pick I think (and just my own speculating here) they will want SOMEONE on the roster that has experience in the NFL as a starter. A McCown, a Bradford or such. I just can't see guys as calculated as McDermott and Beane rolling with 3 inexperienced QBs.
I don't disagree with you but I think Peterman is the odd man out if the Bills sign McCarron( which I don't think they are going to do).
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Just now, whatdrought said:
More than likely. I can dream.
Respectable lol
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3 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:
Dude has never been a starter and want $15M per.... ?
What has has happened to this league!
Go kick rocks!!!
It's almost 3 million a year for every career td he has thrown haha.
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2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:
I wouldn't hate it, but I don't know if it seems like much of an upgrade.
Would rather he go to NYJ and free up another first round QB.
I think anyone who signs him is still going after a first round qb.
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You bring in whoever you don't have to give a long term deal or over pay to land. After all the plan is to draft a rookie and let him take over sooner rather than later.
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3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:
Busted who is self promoter, bust just like Losman. Talks a good game
Have you ever watched Mayfield play. I'm being serious when I ask you this.
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3 minutes ago, Manther said:
That game was not the norm. Absolutely agree it was not the norm. But, he is darn good!
I think he is just slightly better than average.
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1 minute ago, Manther said:
Sure, that is fair. But, Foles was flawless and aggressive and making plays the ENTIRE game. Foles was real good-----actually great!
I agree he played a great game. Do you think this game was the norm or the outlier for him in his career.
4 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:Manning had 2 big throwing years in Denver, last year he was wore out.
Foles had 4 TD's(one for a catch) and a MVP for the Superbowl, I would say he out played Tom Brady.
If Foles was a Franchise QB coming off a Superbowl you could not get him so my points stand. Also Foles has produced good stats before even with the Eagles before and then was traded. Getting a starting QB in this league in the Superbowl that won costs something, a 1st and 4th is the starting point. I bet he could be had for a 2nd, 3rd and 6 or 7th. Bills could then draft Baker or Jackson and have Peterson. I think that makes Buffalo have the best chance of finding a QB to lead them while they still have McCoy.
Why give up assets for a guy that is Not going to change your franchise around? Go get a guy in free agency keep all your draft picks and trade up to try and land the quote on quote franchise guy.
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4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
And Foles didn't get stripsacked either. The Eagles win because : scoreboard. Foles outplayed Brady, imo.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this topic.
3 minutes ago, Manther said:Maybe! Sure....but, Foles played real, real good! Arguably flawless and not in the game manager way!
I'm not saying he didn't play really good I just don't think he outplayed Brady. Pederson out coached bellichick. Butler being benched should have never happened during the super bowl.
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5 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:
Mayfield has bust pick written all over him, looks like another JP Losman . Stay away, college system QB who will fail because of height.
Why do you keep saying Mayfield is Losman?
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14 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Yes he did out throw Brady. Not in yardage perhaps, but he won the duel. Any concern with Foles would be about his ability to sustain that level of play. The SuperBowl was on display for all to see. I don't think it's a terrible strategy if the cost to make a move up is too high and a QB needing a bit more development is the pick.
Or touchdowns and he threw a pick that Brady did not throw. He did not out play Brady. The eagles won because Pederson out coached Belichick.
So going into camp, is it a qb competition for starter?
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