MrEpsYtown

Good point. The only reason I bring it up is that he has such little experience so far, so just thinking long-term trajectory he isn't the best investment. All three of those guys are 2ish years younger and have significantly more experience both in the league and in college. Just doesn't seem like the most worthy investment of effort and time. But for depth, for sure.

They have all 5 starting O-line coming back (pending Corbett's recovery)...Miles Sanders... isn't the worst situation for a rookie to come into.

Man speed gives people multiples shots huh

My thing with Ike is his age. I was always a fan of his, even when he was on the back end of the roster. I've studied Kirk Ferentz stuff for years, he stuck out to me. But he's going to be 29 in the fall. Maybe it's a late-bloomer situation, but I am not sure how much playing time I would invest in him. I do think he is a really good depth for us to have. I am more excited about the upsides of Bates, McGovern, and Edwards TBH. I think they were separate Achilles tears? What I have learned from rupturing my own this September is that the surgically repaired Achilles is essentially 10x stronger than it's ever been. Just takes a while to get that flexibility back. The point being, with two surgically repaired Achilles, he should be ok going forward.

All my opinions here, but here goes: Skoronski and Paris Johnson he would probably be salivating for. Both are versatile athletes who are super smart players, both are also out of reach. They are by far my favorite OL in the draft. Johnson will be a dominant LT and while I am against an RT or guard in the first, I think Skornoski will be dominant there. I worry about him at LT. B. Jones has that versatility and is an excellent athlete. Kromer probably likes Darnell Wright, he's versatile, an ok athlete, and a solid player with good feet. Kick Inside candidates: Mauch - He has a lot of interesting athletic traits and is a former tight end. He's a guard. Upside plays on the surface, but he is already 24 years old. Bergeron - I like him, I think Kromer would. He's another smart player, I do think he is probably a guard only, but he has a ton of experience and good OL traits. High floor. Steen - I think he is a guard too and I think Kromer would like some of his traits. I think he would excel as a zone blocker. Outside chance he could stay at tackle. I would think he also likes John Michael Schmitz. While he is a center-only prospect, he is nasty and a very interesting center who is very smart. Kromer can work with that. He turned Brain Allen into a pretty good pro, and he was a nasty center-only prospect. If they are looking to replace Morse, I could see him in the second round. My only issue with him is that he is old. He may have reached his ceiling. I would also keep an eye on Joe Tippman. Again, a center only, but he's basically Mitch Morse reincarnated. Great size and length for a center and another Wisconsin guy which Kromer seems to like. He came to Wisconsin as a tackle who they moved into center. I think he could play guard or center. He just turned 22 today, so there is an upside there. I can tell you who I don't think they like; Harrison - another soft Oklahoma lineman, Kromer went through this with Bobby Evans and the Bills went through this with Ford. Good athlete, but doesn't have it. Torrence - I don't know what to think here. He is a big slow plodding guard only whose sack numbers are skewed by an elusive qb. His bench at the combine is going to hurt him a little because he seems so much more powerful in the game. I think he is a gap scheme guard, but he does show well in zone. He has a ton of experience, and he can play, I just don't think he is what they are looking for. Again, my opinion. Dawand Jones - a massive human being, probably a RT only. Players like this have never been Kromer's flavor.

I would say that I think the Bills like a pretty specific type of lineman. They like tackles who move inside and they like really smart, athletic players. That kind of narrows down the pool they pick from. But it is clear that they have a type.

You could have stopped here. If we get this, we are in great shape. The rest don't even matter.

I think it's funny when I listen to these experts and podcasts and they get things all wrong. Like I was listening to the Buffalo Rumblings guys and they couldn't remember if Jerry Juedy was a first-round pick...really? Then they called him a 1-year rental, which is also incorrect...he has a 5th-year option in 2024. It is my understanding that the Rams released Bobby Wagner and he, therefore, has nothing to do with the comp pick formula. They can sign him at any time.

We experienced this same song and dance last year on the board. Everybody wanted an RT or a guard like Zion Johnson or safety or Breece Hall, and there was this glaring hole at the corner spot with Tre being hurt and Dane being Dane, the one position that Beane completely ignored in UFA and people were convinced that they may go another direction, and it was so obvious they were drafting a corner. History is repeating itself here with the Mike position. Tyrel Dodson? Yeah ok, sure. He was released though no? He wouldn't count.

Yeah, he is interesting but there is some risk there. Big recruit to PSU but sat on the bench and has only started 15 college games. I feel like he will be a better pro than he was as a college player, but you have to be careful how high you take him so you don't wind up with Adam Shaheen.

Also, the awesome amazing Bengals…their 2019 Draft, Germaine Pratt is all thats left. Jonah is a bust and requesting a trade. The Steelers, typically good drafters, Diontae Johnson the only one still there. What the Bills got out of Oliver and Knox and Singletary is actually pretty successful.

Except he runs a 4.5 and has great explosion numbers. But they are similar in size

My whole thing is that people have been saying this about Morse since we signed him, again preferring Matt Paradis for some reason, who had been an injured mess. I remember like it was yesterday. Morse’s risk is no different really since he got here. They are very careful with him. Morse has been fine and I think he plays out his contract. If he were concerned he would retire. If the Bills were concerned they would cut him and take the cap space. I’m not worried about Mitch.

They signed Leonard Johnson last week. He’s keeping that pipeline rocking.

If they throw in Cam Thomas I’m in!

Nah I get, but you still have to field a team, y’know

For sure. I do like Zach Davidson though. Interesting upside.

You definitely can't but the Bills' track record with Mitch Morse is pretty good. We would have never let Edwards return to play the way the Rams did They Tua'd him.

I don't think they will ever draft a center-only prospect. McGovern is the only projected starter who was and is a pure G/C. Even their depth guys were tackles. Dawkins, Bates, Morse, Doyle, Ryan Van Denmark, Van Roten were LTs, Edwards, Brown, Mancz, Hart and Boettger were Rts. They like tackles who move inside.

The way they are operating is very strange.

I know we make fun, but it is way easier to give up a pick or two for DHop if you know you have an extra coming.

I don't think that is a fair question in this instance. So far this offseason the Rams have lost: David Edwards Greg Gaines David Long Nick Scott Riley Dixon Baker Mayfield Their long snapper Their kicker Probably Taylor Rapp And Cut: Bobby Wagner Leonard Floyd Traded: Jalen Ramsey They will likely cut or trade Allen Robinson They don't appear to have much interest in retaining anyone.

We need to add to the O line was the claim all offseason, they are doing it. I don't see the problem. The guy has started 40-something games and started in and won a super bowl. I like him, Kromer likes him, and he's a Wisconsin lineman. I'm happy. Fun fact, he was an option QB in high school! McGovern-Edwards backfield coming soon!

Yeah, I really like Edwards and talked about it a lot. If healthy he could in theory really push Bates at guard.

Well nevermind. They just signed David Edwards.