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Someone else mentioned it in another thread, but Jacksonville makes sense for McKenzie as well, following Chad Hall. Maybe they just don't want to release him on St. Patricks day.

I love Frank Clark. I always have. Floyd to me is a nickel player or more of a 3-4 edge. But he works as well. I think they draft an end somewhere.

I am guessing he winds up with the Giants as injury insurance for Paris Campbell. Or in the slot for the Patriots (the only team McKenzie routinely killed.) So maybe they are trying to weigh those situations as well.

I love Moreau. Perfect #2 Hooper works if he comes very cheap.

Maybe they are trying to trade him or renegotiate a smaller salary?

I think having Micah out really hurt as well on the back end. But the pass rush is still the issue. Von alone can't be the only guy who can get to the QB.

For fun:

Beane said they won't be bringing in an outside guy and Jordan Poyer actually slipped and said "McDermott is still a really great defensive coordinator, errr, I mean defensive-minded head coach." McDermott is going to call the plays imo.

Interesting stuff, they are very similar. I guess Harty ran a 4.36 at his pro day so that is skewed. So he is a smaller, faster version of Zaccheaus. Here is Slayton. Harty has them both beat on short-area quickness, but it's all very close.

Spags does a great job of keeping things exotic without losing the integrity of their system. We have been straight bend don't break. It's not enough.

The team's run scheme is inside zone, outside zone stretch, quarterback counter bash. That's really it. Not enough.

Yeah, I think it is a really tricky spot. You get that 5th-year option which makes things strange cuz you are paying a backer 11-13 million. However, at 27, there is a good chance you land the best LB in the draft, or the best tight end in the draft, maybe the best center or guard. So the positional value, to your point, is probably not quite there. The value/upside pick there is going to be a guy like Nolan Smith to sack the QB. I know it's annoying to0 take DL again, but if they don't get to the QB this team is going to lose in the playoffs again. If one of those top receivers is there, you take him 100%. All that said, if they believe Campbell is a do-over on Tremaine with better instincts, then you do it. You have a cheap starter at mike for 4 years, and it makes sense to have a cheap starter next to Milano. At the same time is it the best first-round pick value? meh...but 27 this year is just a second-round pick anyway, our second is really a third. The first round is for QBs, true left tackles, pass rushers, and corners. Typically if you go another way, there is no boom with the bust. My gut, based on really no evidence is that they love Trenton Simpson. Simpson is a guy from Charlotte, a military family...a kid McBeane probably would have heard about when he was in high school and have probably followed his career. I am speculating there, but he really fits the mold. I like Campbell better, but I am just not sure if they go there. The fact that Kuecly is training with him is very interesting though.

I think Wagner is holding up the rest of the linebackers, what's left anyway. The market is drying up but so is the need. So who still needs a linebacker? IMO Dire need: Buffalo Rams Could use one: Patriots (they have a bunch of guys under contract, Wagner is still an upgrade) Cowboys (can still add Wagner and play LVE outside) Giants (could play him next to Okereke) Browns Vikings (maybe but they love Asamoah) Raiders though they signed Spillane and still in on Perryman Seahawks though they signed Devin Bush I think what happens with OBJ, Jedy, and DHOP is holding up the WR market a bit with guys like Chark still out there.

Same thing everyone said above Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry. I'm not worried. Mac Jones sucks.

Gesicki is so charmin soft. I can't believe Belichick wants him. Their last two tight-end adds didn't live up to the hype, so I'm not concerned.

It is an interesting point and I think it had more to do with our defensive line just being terrible that day. Head and shoulders above, IMO, is not quite true. But let's compare for fun: Brown Jr.-Volson-Karras-Cappa-Williams to Dawkins-McGovern-Morse-Bates-Brown Brown Jr.>Dawkins but I think it is very close to a wash. I think Dion does a really good job, but Brown's length and stature just make him incredibly difficult to rush on. I am interested to see if playing with Burrow vs Mahomes will hurt Brown. Mahomes throws out of a ton of sacks and saves his guys. Brown is 2 years younger. McGovern>Volson...but it's close. In his limited time, McGovern has been better than Volson to my eye test. Volson is very interesting with the upside, but McGovern has a better pedigree and the same type of upside. McGovern has 4 years in the league and is just a few months older than Volson. Morse>Karras...I will take Morse over Karras all day every day. He's the better athlete, the better pure center. The only knock on him is the concussion stuff. Morse has been a high-level center for years as Karras was a journeyman. Morse is a month younger as well. Karras has become a serviceable player, but he isn't Morse imo. Cappa>Bates...I love Bates' upside but Karras has beenmuch better and has a super bowl title. What Cappa has become coming out of Humboldt State is just super impressive. Bates is two years younger. Williams>Brown...but it's closer than most think. Jonah Williams is just not a tackle. He is a guard or a center and I think a move inside will do wonders for his career. I think he could be one of the top centers in the league. He is still only 25 years old. A change of scenery and a move to center will do wonders for him. Additionally, he is just 25 years old, a couple of months older than Spencer Brown. Brown has struggled as Williams has, and both have really struggled with injuries, but Brown is at the very least a high-upside tackle. Williams is an IOL and the quicker he realizes that the better his career will be. I still give the edge to Williams here, but it is close. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. I like Jackson Carman better than Jonah Williams at RT so I think he should be their starter and they should trade Williams. Ideally, you move Jonah to LG and put Carman and RT and then the Bengals really win the 1 on 1 comparison. So I also give the Bengals the win in depth. I like the upside of Tommy Doyle and Ryan Van Denmark, and Ike Boettger is solid depth, but they are really the only depth we have right now. So yes they are better, but I think it is closer than most people think.

The number is 200, not 300!!! 🤪

Apparently he’s signing in Seattle. I don’t think this takes them out of the Wagner chase, but it’s a nudge I guess

That is always telling to me. When we release a guy some fans truly value and fall in love with and it’s crickets on the open market. That’s the cold hard truth right there.

How much interest he garners when released will finally give us all the answer we seek. I never liked his game, but he was a factor at times. Expiration date is here.

Yeah I think people on this board value him more than people in the league. I truly doubt we add him. JMO

We torched those guys last year, so that’s a good sign. It’s a huge downgrade.

My stance is that they could have extended or re-signed him. They chose not to. To me, they didn’t value him at that number the Bears gave him. Doesn’t mean he sucks. Is it a miss because you did not re-sign him? No, because you get pretty cheap production for 4 years and a reasonable 5th year option. To me, you have to be careful which positions you choose in the 1st round of the draft. Fifth year option for OL is 13 million or something. Really want to pay a guard 13 million or a RT 13 milion? LB round one is also very tricky. The bottom line is that the Bills did not get the player they thought they were getting. He was very good, but not the impact they thought they would get. If he were the second coming of Urlacher or Keuchly, they would have extended him. They were shooting for the moon and fell short. I don’t fault the thought process, but they forced that draft pick and didn’t need to.

He brought up Dodson, Bernard and Spector. Its all lip service stuff. I don’t believe him for a second. I think there is a chance they will still add Wagner or Tranquill, or someone who gets released. I love Jack Campbell, my gut tells me they love Trenton Simpson, and Sanders is the second coming of Tremaine. So we shall see where it goes. It’s still early, but I think they draft a guy

Beane actually adressed that and said they will not move Milano. Those other guys will compete for the mike spot but they will continue to look to add. Translation imo, they are drafting our new mike