MrEpsYtown

This 100%. A vet in a room full of young guys. He’s produced with limited opportunities in the past, he is great insurance and a great teammate.

And a league executive. Maybe we will finally get some roughing the passer calls to protect Josh.

I’m looking forward to OTA photos to see how thick he got. I’m sure he got after it.

Shaw isn’t this kind of true of all late round draft picks for all teams? That’s part of the fun of the draft is that you can dream on guys. That’s why we are fans. Shorter brings things to the table you can’t teach, and for whatever reason the Bills really like him, perhaps more than other teams. That’s just the way it is. He’s here now, he is ours, and we are going to root for him to succeed.

Maybe have Dion Dawkins and Tyler Matekevich reach out to their former Temple tough teammate.

Yeah I feel like a lot of fan’s expectations of the what a mike looks like is skewed by having a unicorn like Tremaine. Roquan Smith is 6-1, 232 Fred Warner is 6-3, 230 Demario Davis was 6-2, 235 when drafted…now he weights 248. Eric Kendricks is 6-0, 232 With his length and frame I see zero reason why Williams couldn’t add 10-15 lbs of muscle.

Yes. He was on a 1 year deal with Carolina last year. Should have some familiarity with the system here having come from Washington and Ron Rivera.

Some good stuff in here, a bunch of pancakes including destroying Drew Sanders when he was on Bama and handling Will Anderson at LT.

I watched the USC game today, which was touted as his best game. He was all over the place, but he was still a bit up and down. Really over committed on the rpo stuff, play action and counter stuff. He also made some ridiculous plays. I feel like he was a bit in conflict at times with what he was tasked to do, which looked like it was a lot. Got pushed around a bit, and had a bad missed tackle on a long USC TD but you can see flashes in his game. He destroys the running back on the 1 yard line which led to a safety that absolutely changed the game. He’s a playmaker. There is a lot to like here, but I am not sure he’s going to be ready to step in this year. JMO based on one game film.

I’d take a shot on some younger guys. Greg Little could be good competition at the swing tackle. He’s somehow only 25. PFF hates him. Oshane Ximines can get to the QB. Not great in coverage and all the things the Giants asked him to do. Hand in the ground, I think he has upside. Just 26. In terms of vets I’d be interesting in one of Yannick Ngakoue, Melvin Ingram, or Frank Clark. Yannick is my favorite as he is productive without a lot of playing time and is only 28 and a former Diggs teammate at Maryland. At TE maybe this is finally the year for old pal and obsessive target former message board hero Jesse James. He did play for Penn State. As many have mentioned, Poona Ford and Matt Ioannidas are pretty good fits on the DL. At LB its the same cast of characters…Deion Jones, Myles Jack, Zach Cunnigham, Rashaan Evans. Not sure than any are huge upgrades over what is in the building but competition is always good. I would be trying to work trades for guys who had their 5th year option rejected who have fallen out of favor. In another post I mentioned Kenneth Murray. He was a pre draft visitor here and he badly needs a change of scenery. He is a great fit for for what we do and would be a really nice fit at the mike spot. I would call the Niners on Javon Kinlaw. Maybe they would be interested in one of our extra interior linemen, or one of those extra sixth rounders. I am guessing Jacksonville will reject K’Lavon Chiasson’s option as well. That’s the market I would look to to make cheap additions of guys with something to prove.

He is also a great teammate with no ego. He could become the practice squad vet running back like he was in Denver and NO until he was needed.

He’s another guy who skipped the agility drills. But a strong comp as well. Yeah once they pay Burrow they will probably have to move on from Higgins, Boyd. That’s probably why they drafted Charlie Jones as well. Logan Wilson will be a free agent as well and Myles Murphy probably replaces Trey Hendrickson after this season.

Makes a ton of sense. Good call

Two nice chances to show off his skills before he ventures off in his career as an medical supplies salesman…or an adult film star.

Sh Someone made a point somewhere about big guys and agility drills. Both Shorter’s 3 cone and shuttle are bad scores but actually better than DK Metcalf. DK has Shorter easily beat in the 40, but that’s why Shorter is a 5th round pick. Shorter’s short shuttle is better than Tee Higgins as well. Almost every measure of Shorter’s is better than Higgins and I think that is a good comp. Plus Shorter has 15 lbs on him. Those scores have not affected Higgins’ career. Big guys like Mike Williams, DJ Chark, Equanimous St. Brown and Chase Claypool skipped those drills. I think those numbers are super important especially for a slot guy, but in this case for a 5th rounder with upside, it doesn’t really bother me. If he had the great 3 cone and a better 40 he would have been a first round pick.

Coaching was pretty inconsistent there and sometimes it just takes big guys longer as well. I’m very excited about this one.

Oklahoma O linemen are not welcome here anyways.

I guess I would also add that hopefully Kincaid can beat people with his size and route running. Jimmy Graham was always super raw, one year of college football, and really never a great route runner. He was jumping over people and there was never really much savvy to his game. The savvy was in the way Sean Payton used him in NO. That was the difference when he moved to Seattle imo. Kincaid isn’t quite the explosive athlete Graham was, but he seems to have some deep knowledge of coverages and a ton of savvy in his game to go along with speed and huge hands. If Kincaid is truly a roided up Beasley, he could be unstoppable in this offense.

I know Kincaid isn’t the best blocker, but I am guessing if teams want to cover him with a corner it will create advantages in the run game for Buffalo. Kind of a pick your poison. Now the defense has to play two tight ends in a nickel set, which really hurt the Bills 4-2-5 the last couple of years. It sounds like that is the plan for the Bills. Beane said teams would play their two tight end sets with heavy base personnel. The Bills want to force the other teams to defend their run game in a sub package. Also if they want to double Diggs they will have to play single high safety. The strategy puts pressure on defenses.

Anyone know if they are allowed to bring in a vet without a job, like a Kurt Benkert or one of the XFL guys like Cole McDonald? Rookies are super dried up. I’d rather a guy who can actually throw maybe work with those rookie guys.

I agree. I do think that playing both sides is not a huge deal but in this case having a guy who just started his last 34 college games at RG moving to another spot makes no sense. He did play a bunch of left guard his freshmen year, but imo just plug him in at RG after he earns it.

Meaning like why wasn’t he picked earlier? It happens all the time but different teams have different flavors of corner they like. 4.56 forty and he is a zone only corner takes about half the league out of it, so it just happens. But I like his game. I think he pushes for the back end of the roster. To me White, Elam, Benford, Johnson are locks. Outside of that it’s competition between Neal, Jackson, Austin, Cam Lewis.

Well I disagree. He is a guy who does not need a lot of playing time to make an impact. Sure he is a one trick pony, but it fits here where we need to get more sacks. He’s still young and where else do they find sacks at this point?

Rapp played a lot of stack nickel backer in LA. That’s our base defense. So he has done it before. I think maybe he becomes that guy in super obvious pass situations, but not in base.

I mean he had 9.5 last year and ten the year before. 9.5 sacks in like 60% of the snaps is pretty darn good.