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I think he would a be a beast there in the old days. That type of strong safety isn't really a thing anymore with the way the game has evolved. He's a linebacker.

This is very likely the outcome

He will be washing dishes this time next year.

I feel like he beats out the incumbents. He has a much higher ceiling, but his football intelligence gives him a higher floor as well. The only place he needs to catch up to those other guys is in knowledge of the playbook, and he seems like the kind of kid who is going to dive in.

Def a huge overdraft, but he has a ability. I feel like injuries crushed him.

Ray always had talent and the ability to rush the passer. Those wrist injuries are just brutal for pass rushers. It’s probably nothing more serious than a camp flyer…but he has pass rush ability you can’t teach. Not your typical flyer imo. This is fun…what he does to Morse They were also teammates at Mizzou

I am ecstatic that they are using analytics. Thank God. It's a far cry from "first guy off the bus," and "it factor."

I was never fan. Nice player, nice story. But meh

Gotta change the energy in here:

So long as he is healthy, it’s not even close…plus he is 3 years younger

I wouldn’t hate it for the vet minimum, but there is little upside here. He will turn 30 this summer and isn’t an athlete, but he is a solid player. However, this would be a depth play as he would essentially be this year’s Greg Van Roten as a guy who can play center and guard. Is he an upgrade to Greg Mancz? Sure. But he isn’t much more than that.

I went back and watched the Steelers game just to watch Tyrell Dodson. My conclusion is that it was a mixed bag. Their certainly looked to be a lot of confusion and some very obvious communication issues going on between he and Milano early on. Dodson was all over the place making tackles and cleaning up, and for the most part was in the right place. As one would expect he was pretty bad in coverage especially in the few times he wound up in man to man situations on the tight end. He just looked confused the majority of the game but did settle down near the end. The Steelers kind of settled into a simple 2x2 offense down big. With all that said, the defense only gave up three points and while there weren’t any amazing splash plays, Dodson was solid, and I think that is what they are looking for. I think he has a shot, but there is definitely more upside in Williams, with Spector and Bernard also having some pretty interesting upside as well.

Hypothetical, if you had to choose between Simmons and Kenny Murray for the Bills who you taking? I lean Murray personally, but its close.

Got you. My apologies really. I don't mean to come off as a jerk. That was not my intent.

Yeah I get you. And I guess it is friendly debate, but when the GM and coach have come out and repeatedly said they will not make this maneuver, why does it continue to be a thing? It's just kind of silly. Creating the same thread over and over about a question that has already been answered isn't really contributing to the board either. Am I contributing? Not really. Is the OP? No not really. Just spinning wheels. I suppose here is my breakdown...The responsibility of the mike in a 4-2-5 is not exceptionally different that the will, however, he does have to take on more blocks at the point of attack which allows Milano to clean up. Milano excels in cleaning up and shooting gaps playing away from the strength. Stick him at mike and he is now taking on more tight ends etc. He is aso a guy that gets banged up quite a bit. Stick him in there at that spot and he won't last three games. Again, we can debate it all we want, but the braintrust says it isn't happening. It's their opinion that it's not the right move and that is the only opinion that matters. The reason why it is a downgrade is that you are asking Milano to do things that he is not suited for and then you are asking another guy to come in a replace Milano's all pro production. So it's a downgrade in two spots. Leave the man where he excels. Do we see more dime type packages where safety Taylor Rapp is your other linebacker? Sure. Does that make Milano the mike? Sure I suppose. But all that remains to be seen. All that we know right now is that bothe Beane and McDermott immediately shot down the idea of moving Matt Milano, and it wasn't coachspeak stuff.

Beane has been steadfast and really consistent that Milano's role will not change. Same story before and after the draft. Why downgrade two spots? Keep Milano where he is. This is another message board thing that is posted every three to four days, then comes a new "hear me out."

True. I was actually an Ike fan from day 1 and really liked his potential. I was so upset when KC claimed him, but we got him back. The Bills could have kept Teller at LG and Ike at RG a few years ago and they could have saved themselves a lot of grief and draft capital. Ike had interesting upside…a few years go by, he gets injured and now all of a sudden he’s 29. He’s just not as interesting anymore.

Boettger is also going to be 29 this season. So im def keeping the young guy over him and imo Broecker is probably already better, he’s 22, and extremely durable.

The plan is the same one they have been talking about for awhile. LB they will have a competition for the spot with guys in house. Beane says he thinks they deserve a shot. RT they believe they have a good player in Brown who was hurt last year. I suppose they could add depth, but aren’t moving on from Brown at this time.

Yeah i think Smith is interesting. I think his production could be close to what Hurst gave them, but I think Hurst is better where Smith has some upside. Safety looks like a major problem. Their front seven remains the same for this year and they added Murphy. They are going to have to live and die by getting to the quarterback.

The Bengals are also taking a step back at least defensively, and big step back at tight end. This is kind of their last shot before they have to start paying everyone.

The Dolphins were giving them the deep shot. That was the correct read most of the time, they just didn't execute. Agreed. One or two plays completely change that game.

He’s probably one of the reasons Brady retired.

I actually always liked Cobb. But I feel like the Jets are building an all geriatric team which will overshadow the young guys…which I like

He sucks