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They get posted on the thread and then Virgil changes the OP and keeps it updated. @wppete on the clock

I love Skornoski, but agree he is not a left tackle. If he went to play left tackle for a team with a great qb who gets it out quick, his PFF grade would be through the roof…. I think he is an all pro guard…and if he moved to center he would be the best center in the league…even better than Humprey. Gasp…. But he is polished, super smart, great athlete and body, bloodlines, and just 21 years old. He will make it.

I like Foskey. I’m starting to fall hard for Mazi Smith as well, I know he’s a DT. I just really like the DL in this draft and the value might be there at 27

I”m probably in the minority, but if its not MLB, I think they will take an edge guy in round 1.

Good You know after this he will get eaten alive while racing a live cheetah. He will 100% do something really stupid and people will talk about CTE…when in reality he’s just an idiot.

Most of these guys are going to get terrible deals. Its a couple of weeks before the draft and they still are not signed. We have more cap space than the seahawks. And a better chance to win.

Man Boogie could have 20 sacks and people would still be talking about Creed freakin Humphrey.

Frank Clark…grabbing a hired gun from KC to beat them would be pretty cool. He had times when he is unstoppable. Being a part of a rotation like ours is exactly what he needs to lengthen his career, plus he was released so no comp pick impact.

Eagles, Bears, Giants

I’m typically a measuarables and projection guy. Addison seems very meh to me. Good solid player. I do like JSN a lot. But I tend to skew the 6-4 guy who jumps out of the gym. I agree that he could wind up being the best receiver in the class or a massive bust. There isn’t much in between.

He’s definitely got some boom or bust. But at least there is some boom. The other guys just aren’t really all that impressive to me.

I’m all in on Johnston if he is there. Love him. The upside is huge imo. I honestly don’t like the other guys aside from JSN.

Probably. He wasn‘t asked to play in the box much until this year. It kind of reminds me of how PSU used Brandon Smith, a ton of slot nickel and coming off the edge a ton. Simpson has football instincts for sure, but not the eyes in the back of his head instincts of Campbell. It’s kind of the same story with Drew Sanders. But Simpson isn’t the pure pass rusher Sanders is. Simpson is a really good blitzer with a ridiculous motor and tremendous character. All that said, Simpson seems to be the type of player this regime would covet. Campbell is plug and play. Simpson will be very good, high ceiling, and Sanders offers pass rush flex if they wanted to bring in Rapp as the second nickel backer next to Milano.

Starting to be a good amount of smoke around Dallas and Trenton Simpson. So that is something to watch. Could be something, could be a smoke screen for their interest in a guy like Sanders, maybe Campbell. Perhaps they want someone else and trying to push the Bills to grab an LB.

Fleming is a journeyman jag. I question whether he is even better than Quesenberry. Brown could be something special, is cheap, and still young. I would take a 1.77 million dollar flyer on Isaiah Wynn. Young guy in his second contract needs a change of scenery and a chance to prove himself. But Fleming is a no for me. Fleming was interesting 5 years ago.

I never believe the running back stuff, its the best smokescreen, but the he rest makes a ton of sense.

There are some very long threads with lots of breakdown of both these guys. I think its in the Tremaine replacements thread. So the notion that most of the people here are old heads who want an unathletic mullet wearing white mlb is just kind of childish. All these guys are being discussed in other threads with a lot of great analysis. This thread was unecessary.

Yeah it was reported very late in the process that we met with Elam, but was never on the walterfootball list. Thats the point I was trying to make on the other page. You have to take these lists with a grain of salt. Its smokescreen time.

Definitely an interesting list, but you always have to be careful with reported visits. It seems like they are either leaked by the team for a reason or the player lets it out by accident. Like when you look at the full list on the site not one team has met with Jack Campbell…really nobody? So I’m just saying it is an interesting list to look at that is certainly incomplete.

Not a fan. His game is sloppy to me, I think he’s soft. He has athletic traits that you can definitely mold, but I don’t think he is upgrade, meaning if you draft him, he is sitting the bench.

I have seen Campbell go sideline to sideline a few times. Especially in the Michigan game. The Michigan and Ohio State games kind of stick out to me as some of his best. That Kentucky film from his junior season is no bueno. But yes I agree that Kuechly is in a different league. If Cambell can be 75% of Keuchly, you have an all-pro, and the back end of the first, that ain't bad.

Rinse and repeat. We did this last year and the year before. A couple of weeks before the draft, suddenly we were all over Etienne, Harris. Last year it was Breece Hall. I really believe all this RB stuff comes from OBD as it is so easy to rile up the draft business with this stuff. Suddenly we are in on this Gibbs guy? It's silly stuff.

Oh for sure at times. He hits, but he misses tackles. He looks slow in some plays and gets caught in the trash. He make a huge play on the pick with the return, but he has his ups and downs in that game which I suppose was my point. Not much different than Campbell imo.

Tons of mid-round RBs, DL, and LBs.

People always want to complain about defense, but this is what Beane knows. We can ignore 25 years of data, or we can use it has a predicator of what the Bills might do. I go back to this data back to 2008 when Beane became director of football operations (I assume that is when he started to have a say and power in the organization). He worked in the personnel department from 1998 to 2008 and I assume he didn't have a ton of say, but he was in the room. In 2015-2016 he was assistant GM in Carolina. He was still in Carolina for the 2017 draft. Here is how their first-round picks have gone: Personnel: 1998: DE 1999: no first-round pick because they signed franchise-tagged DT Sean Gilbert 2000: DB (they go this pick by trading a second-rounder a couple of years earlier. ) 2001: LB Dan Morgan 2002: DE Peppers 2003: LT Jordan Gross 2004: DB Chris Gamble 2005: LB Thomas Davis 2006: RB DeAngelo Williams 2007: LB Jon Beason Director of football operations: 2008: RB Jonathan Stewart, LT (Otah they moved to right) 2009: they don't have a first because of the Otah trade, they draft Edge and Bills message board legend Everette Brown in 2nd. 2010: they trade down and take QB Jimmy Clausen 2011: QB Cam Newton 2012: LB Luke Kuechly 2013: DT Star Lotulelei 2014: WR Kelvin Benjamin Assistant GM: 2015: LB Shaq Thompson 2016: DT Vernon Butler 2017: RB Christian McCaffrey 2017: DB Tre White (Beane is not in Buffalo for this) Bills GM: 2018: QB1, LB Tremaine Edmunds 2019: DT Ed Oliver 2020: Traded for Diggs (would have been WR if not) 2021: DE Greg Rousseau 2022: DB Kaiir Elam Since 2008, in drafts Beane has been involved in: LBs: 6 DBs: 4 (all corners) DE, RB, QB, DT: 3 WR: 2 LT: 1 RT: 1 Zero: Interior O-line, tight ends, safeties. Just to add, people keep complaining about the Bernard pick. Beane has been involved in drafts where a ton of linebackers have been taken both high and in the mid rounds year after year after year.