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I'm not sure the Eagles can get too greedy when it comes to Foles. He just kind of re-discovered his love of the game, so I'm not sure he will be okay with getting traded anywhere. I could see Minnesota or Arizona. I think DeFellipo is going to want to bring back Bradford or bring in Cousins. I think Arizona makes a ton of sense because Foles has a cheap contract, they have very little in the way of cap, he's a good fit with Mike McCoy, and he played at Arizona U. The Cards also really need to consider signing a vet to go with Larry Fitzgerald for the last few years of his career. I think the Bills could make some sense from a culture standpoint and familiarity with the coaching staff. I could also see Denver if they can't get Cousins, though I am not sure if Foles would like being in a spot where John Elway is breathing down his throat. (I think Elways wants Josh Allen anyway)

Lynn has Whisenhunt running the offense...he is also an Erhardt-Perkins guy. I actually miss Chan Gailey's offense...he is also an E-P guy.

Trapasso has a hard on for Rudolph. he is the only person who keeps mocking him to the Bills. I think he goes in the third.

I could buy Rosen 1, Jackson 2. Some of the other Erhardt Perkins teams who could be picking quarterbacks include Todd Haley with the Browns, the Cards with Mike McCoy, Ken Whisenhunt with the Chargers and Adam Gase with Miami. Mike Shula, now with the Giants is also a E-P guy.

I still think Denver trades up to 1 for Allen, Bills trade up to 2 for Rosen, Colts pick Chubb, Brownies get Barkley and Darnold/Mayfield at 4/5.

Going to play for Mike Pettine makes a lot of sense for Mo.

Mayfield is a gamer for sure. I just don't think coaches and GMs can convince themselves he is the guy. I think if you are going to be small you have to have some qualities that make you super special. Wilson is really athletic with huge hands, and absolutely no red flags. He went in the third. Drew Brees was a special passer who scanned the entire field during his college career in an early spread system, but he was pinpoint accurate with the football also had plus 10 inch hands. Also squeaky clean and went in the second round. I think we are asking a lot of GMs to overlook everything about Mayfield and convince themselves that this is the guy they are going to hitch their careers to. Athletically, he is not super special. If you look at the numbers, he tested similar to Brees. A small quarterback better be an unbelievable athlete, or a pinpoint precise passer. Even when they are, they still don't go in the first round. Add red flags and such and it just doesn't add up. I like Mayfield, but I do think its Rosen, Darnold, Allen, and honestly I might hitch my future to an elite athlete like Lamar before Mayfield. I actually think the Saints should draft him at the end of the first and groom him behind Brees. I doubt he lasts that long.

I just think a trade down from the Giants makes too much sense. They have a good team. Their coach was terrible last year and their best player got hurt. Their offensive line is awful. Take Cordy Glenn, 21, 22. Sign Andrew Norwell, draft James Daniels or Will Hernandez or whatever, suddenly your line is fixed. They also are transitioning to a 3-4 defense with holes in some places. Trade down, get the left tackle and fill in the gaps and this team could easily be a Super Bowl contender. Nelson could be an elite player, but the Giants have elite players, they need depth above all else. It's probably wishful thinking on my part because I want Rosen so badly, but it seems to be the best course of action for the Giants. I think the Beane-Gettleman connection helps. For them, drafting their future quarterback makes no sense at this point. The last team to really do this quarterback grooming thing right was the Packers. They did not have 100 holes all over their team and they had an elite prospect fall in their laps. The Giants need not force the issue. They need to trade down and try to win a Super Bowl.

I will say that last year it was tough to get a clue on what Buffalo wanted to do. There was no inkling of any interest in Tre'davious White, Dion Dawkins, or Matt Milano or Vallejo. We assumed there was a connection with Zay Jones, but no report of a visit. They met with Peterman and pretty much all of the quarterbacks including Watson, Mahomes, Trubisky etc. They did meet with a number of corners, receivers, and tackles. I think the days or gone where we could look at a Buddy Nix and Doug Whaley list of reported visitors and kind of narrow it down to 1-3 guys they could pick. A couple of years ago, Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Cardale Jones, and Adolphus Washington were so obviously going to be the picks. Before that there was CJ Spiller the waterbug, Preston Brown, John Miller...just so obvious. Last year, McDermott's first and no pre-draft luncheon thing, rumors had it that the Bills wanted to trade up for Trubisky, when that was out they set their sights on Marshon Lattimore. When the trade down came together, they targeted White. We heard there was interest in Trubisky, but nothing on Lattimore or White. In conclusion, I think they will meet with pretty much all of the quarterbacks and try to trade up for one. By the list of visitors and meetings, we can kind of see which positions they might be targeting, which players they want is probably not as clear.

I think Rosen is a possible future HOF type quarterback. He is the answer...if he stays healthy. I think Mason Rudolph is a 3rd-4th rounder who will stick around the league as an ok backup for a few years. Floor is Bryce Petty, ceiling is Brandon Weeden.

Now watch them go sign Tannenbaum guys like Mo Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson. They will have the best d-line in the world accounting for like 75% of their cap.

Agreed. I thought they should have taken Mahomes there. I will say, and maybe it makes sense, that they were probably trying to move up to two for Trubisky and the 49ers told the Bears, which led to the Bears jumping them. Also, when making these decisions they are kind of a big deal for the franchise to trade up for their quarterback for the next ten years. I think it is possible that McDermott decided to pass on that draft class, sans Peterman, until he had his own GM and scouts in place. Why would you let Doug Whaley's staff lead you to franchise quarterback? It is bad process. Now he has his true staff in place and his OC of choice as well. This year is the year they make the move.

I mean he was also in a kindergarten offense and has tiny hands, whereas Peterman comes from a pro style offense and has nearly 10 inch hands. We could looks at measurables and make a lot of arguments. I stand by my argument that Rudolph is a 3rd, 4th rounder who is basically Bryce Petty with more college experience. About a round or two better than Nate Peterman. Rudolph just happens to be big. He's not special. He doesn't move the needle at all for this franchise. Not sure what a lot of people are seeing here. Rosen has been elite from high school, Allen has elite athletic ability and arm strength, Mayfield played at an extremely elite level in college, Jackson has elite athleticism and Darnold is seen by many as being an elite quarterback prospect. After that there is a huge drop off.

While I certainly think that is a possibility, I do think Terry Pegula and everyone else involved want an elite prospect at quarterback. It's why they did the trade last year, to get ammo to possibly move up for a quarterback this year. A round 2 quarterback like Rudolph or the guy from Richmond just isn't getting it done. If you don't trade up, I think you pass on quarterback this year.

Go back and watch Nathan Peterman's Gruden QB camp and you will floored. He also has a lack of arm strength. I think knowledge of the game can only take you so far if your can't throw an out route. And I agree, I wish we could take Rosen's brain and arm talent, Allen's arm strength and size, and Jackson's athletic ability and make a quarterback. Maybe Mayfield's moxie and Darnold's toughness as well. I wouldn't want anything from Rudolph. Very ordinary.

I could see it. I love Rosen. I'm guessing the Bills love one of Allen, Rosen, Darnold and that is why we hear all the smoke about the trade ups.

I'm guessing Elway loves Josh Allen. I think we could see a Denver and Buffalo trade up to 1-2 for Allen and Rosen (like teh Rams and Eagles a few years back). Cleveland could trade back with Denver and still have 4-5...if the Colts take Chubb, which most assume, the Browns can grab Barkley at 4 and then Darnold or Mayfield at 5.

We drafted Matt Milano at 6-0, 223, so he could be a 4-3 will. I could also see him being used by a creative 3-4 coach like James Bettcher with the Giants. (formerly Arizona)

This 100%. Honestly, I think Terry Pegula feels the same exact way. 5th-6th best quarterback is not going to change a thing. Go get Rosen.

I think DeFellipo really loves Sam Bradford. He also saw a lot of Cousins in the NFC East, so I think they go with either Bradford or Cousins. The Keenum to Denver thing doesn't make a ton of sense, but suppose its a reasonable bridge. There are connections as he started his career with Gary Kubiak, but Kubiak jerked Keenum around quite a bit in Houston. He is obviously in Elway's ear and Kubiak has said good things about Keenum.

It's seems they are meeting with a number of tackles, which is definitely the right move. Whether they consider a trade for Cordy Glenn we are still in need of depth at that position. I think Mills, Glenn, and Henderson will not be on this roster in 2018. But man Miller is blowing it up. Have to go back to the game film because Rosen got hit a lot.

If we can't trade up this is something that I would consider. I think it makes a lot of sense. People like to trade up into the bottom of the first all of the time. I think it really depends who is on the board at the time.

Mayock will flip things like he always does. I think he had DeShone Kizer #1 at this time last year, and moved him a lot (I think he ended at #5)as he started to hear the scouts' take on Kizer. Kiper will remain steadfast and stubborn.

This sucks for Price. Not a bad idea to get a little later.

Really good stuff. Thanks for sharing.