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I think he will be better. I still wish we would have drafted Cooper Kupp, who is a great fit for what I think Daboll is going to try to do.

I think you could attempt to front load the deal a bit so that you don't have to two high costs corners at the same time. I am curious about his market and I think a transition tag could make some sense, giving us the right to match offers.

I agree with you, but I think we are just looking at it differently. This is kind of why I am on the McCarron to the Browns train. You don't have to go through the growing pains of developing a guy who is already developed. Plus he was developed by Hue Jackson and Ken Zampese, who are both on the Browns staff. I thought he played really well for the Bengals and had that playoff game won a couple of years ago. If they go sign AJ and say draft Barkley and Quinton Nelson, and sign a free agent reciever their offense will be stacked. They can upgrade their defense in the second round and free agency. They have a ton of cap and two top five picks. If they talk themselves out of picking a quarterback, I think they have a real opportunity to be good this year.

Good point. But all of these guys have to be developed and their roster needs more talent. So they go 2-14 vs 0-16. That's improvement I suppose.

I didn't say it was what they are definitely going to do, I'm just saying that if they believe in McCarron and sign him, it gives them a ton of flexibility to upgrade their roster with two top four picks. I think it makes sense. Drafting Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Mayfield will only lead to more losing for them, and in two years they will be doing this again. They could be the Vikings this year, good line, good defense, ok quarterback. That is their quickest route to contention in my opinion. Drafting a young guy will really just lead to another season like what they just had with Kizer.

Additionally, adding McCarron lets them do something like draft Barkley 1 and Chubb or Nelson at 4. Now you are getting two elite blue chip prospects. They have a really good offensive line as well. They also have Kizer to develop in the background who they seem to like. Now that team doesn't look so bad. Sign a receiver like Sammy Watkins or Jarvis Landry and some defensive players in free agency and they are in business. Drafting a young quarterback pretty much guarantees Hue Jackson loses his job in two years. I think he will be banging the table for McCarron and Dorsey will go for it because it allows them to get two top 5 position players in this draft.

Agreed. The one team it isn't risky for is Cleveland, because Hue Jackson knows what he is getting and Ken Zampese is there as well as QB coach. For anyone else, it is a big leap of faith. Although he would have won a playoff game vs the Steelers if it weren't for Vontaze Burfict going nuts and Jeremy Hill's fumble.

Great points. That Glennon contract was clearly a mistake, but I think they thought they were getting a guy who still had some potential, just in case they could not trade up in the draft. They were signing him to be their starter at the time, not their backup, they fell in love with Trubisky and made the trade up. Tyrod is what he is. I think the Browns are much more likely to sign McCarron and there is 0% chance that Arizona is going to give Larry Fitzgerald a Tyrod Taylor for his last couple of years. Thanks for your service Larry...here's a guy he won't throw you the ball... I would be shocked if we are able to acquire any compensation for him. I think he goes and backs up a guy like Tannehill, Rivers, or even Prescott in Dallas and gets a contract like Brian Hoyer's 2 year 12 million dollar deal with San Fran.

I think there has to be some truth to this. I think Foles trade destinations will be limited. He doesn't seem like a guy who would want to go Cleveland or like the NY Jets. It would have to be a great fit. Obviously, he can't control where he goes, but he could just retire if he doesn't like the fit. I think Arizona, Buffalo, Minnesota probably make sense. I'm not sure Denver is a great fit with Elway breathing down his neck. I think we make sense with the Andy Reid connection with David Culley on staff as well.

With all of the quarterbacks on the market, no one will trade for this guy. It just doesn't make any sense. As a free agent, he would not make anything near the 18 million he is scheduled to make. I could see him going somewhere as a backup insurance policy type. Maybe to Miami to compete with Tannehill, or San Diego to backup Rivers and reunite with Anthony Lynn.

I like Teddy Bridgewater to the Cardinals. I think he is a nice fit for the intermediate passing game and can get the ball to Larry Fitzgerald. Plus he looks pretty good with a Cardinal on the side of his helmet. Keenum makes some sense as well but I think he ultimately goes back to Minnesota. In that same vein, I could see Bradford being the quarterback of choice here. I think they go the vet route with Fitz in the twilight of his career. Teddy is still young and gives them a chance to play for now and the future. Lastly, if Andrew Luck is healthy, I could see them trying to make a trade for Jacoby Brissett Making a play for Tyrod would just completely waste Fitzgerald's last year. It won't happen.

Good work but I have to say that a lot of people are going to be surprised when Mason Rudolph goes in the third or fourth round. I just don't see it.

We claimed him on waivers early in the season and he was on the roster throughout most of the year. He was active for a few games. I don't think he saw any real action besides the field goal team. He does have some potential as a possible RT down the line. But he does give us great insight into Rosen.

Agreed! And, I've mentioned this in another thread but his left tackle for two years (LT and QB relationship can be a close one) Conor McDermott is on our roster and loves Rosen from everything I've read. How Conor feels about Rosen as a friend and teammate should be, at least, a part of the evaluation of Rosen. While there are other UCLA players on rosters in the NFL, having a guy like Conor McDermott on our roster gives us some very special insight into how teammates feel about Rosen and what type of leader and person he is. Dude was in the offensive huddle with him for two years. This fact should not be overlooked.

Mayfield to the Jets is becoming a pretty popular mock pick. I'm still not sure Bowles and Mike Maccagnan are going to hitch their future to a young guy. They were gifted two year extensions, I think go the veteran route. I don't know why they wouldn't go all in on Cousins.

Every thread inevitably seems to turn into a Mason Rudolph/Baker Mayfield thread. I thought we were talking about Josh Rosen...

There are going to me a lot more commercial breaks. There will be even less of chance that any analysis of Buffalo Bills pics will actually make it on to TV because they will either be in commercial during our picks, or go to commercial right after our pick is made.

One thing on smokescreens is that typically, the news you hear early in draft season is often closer to the truth than what you hear close to the draft. Smokescreen season hasn't technically started yet and you kind of see that pick up after the combine. This early report and the way it is framed actually seems pretty possible. Just my 2 cents. Plus remember, this is according to NFL sources. We did have Brain Gaine leave and Lake Dawson go on some interviews, so when you have your front office people out and about around the league, sometimes news can be spread around a bit.

Rosen has gotten his butt kicked playing football and still keeps playing. He's a rich kid who doesn't need football and still keeps playing. He could be doing a million other things but chooses to play football. To me, that means he loves football. Some guys play for the money, or a chance to make it out of the hood. What is he playing for? He must love it because football is hard and dangerous. Calling him a self-centered jerk is lazy. The things he said about college football, he was really trying to make a statement for those less fortunate than him. He was sticking up for the poor guys who play college football and get chewed up and spit out with nothing to show for it. He is in a position to speak for those who have less than him. I think he can come off as smug because he is intelligent and confident. Take the time to read some of his interviews. He is a really smart kid, who loves football, sticks up for his teammates, and it seems like guys love him from everything I've read. Pretty much everything he said about school, Trump, etc was all about sticking up for the little guy. I love this attitude for a quarterback. A guy who is willing to take the blame and will stick up for teammates. I would very very happy about a trade up. The injuries are a concern, but he's a perfect fit and we would be set for the next fifteen years. Take the time to look into those controversial interviews and make your own assessment.

Josh Rosen is the guy I hope we move up for. I do ilke Darnold and I think Allen and Mayfield are intriguing, but I would only move up for Rosen or Darnold.

Robiskie is a well respected coach who has been around a long time. I think he could do a lot for our corps. However, as many have suggested, they should really just move David Culley and hire a QB coach.

He could compete with John Cena for all of the "dumb and roided meathead" roles. I think he has a shot.

The one thing I will say about the Cousins situation is that if you look back at the few times Carolina played Washington over the years, McDermott's defense pretty much shut him down. He had 315 passing yards on MNF a couple of years ago, but also had some bad turnovers. I can't imagine he was super impressed on the other side. Or perhaps they had to work hard to gameplan for him. McDermott's opinion on him is going to drive this situation. Guys who ripped apart the Panthers over the years are guys like Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Eli.

Always nice to have a fellow Greek around.

I think Cordy Glenn could be moved as part of a trade up with either the Giants or Colts. In fact the NY media is already talking about Cordy Glenn as a potential trade target for the Giants. No no one will trade for Tyrod imo. Every team does this all of the time. If a player doesn't fit the plan they move on and take the cap space. This is normal procedure in the NFL.