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I think Rosen is a possible future HOF type quarterback. He is the answer...if he stays healthy. I think Mason Rudolph is a 3rd-4th rounder who will stick around the league as an ok backup for a few years. Floor is Bryce Petty, ceiling is Brandon Weeden.

Now watch them go sign Tannenbaum guys like Mo Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson. They will have the best d-line in the world accounting for like 75% of their cap.

Agreed. I thought they should have taken Mahomes there. I will say, and maybe it makes sense, that they were probably trying to move up to two for Trubisky and the 49ers told the Bears, which led to the Bears jumping them. Also, when making these decisions they are kind of a big deal for the franchise to trade up for their quarterback for the next ten years. I think it is possible that McDermott decided to pass on that draft class, sans Peterman, until he had his own GM and scouts in place. Why would you let Doug Whaley's staff lead you to franchise quarterback? It is bad process. Now he has his true staff in place and his OC of choice as well. This year is the year they make the move.

I mean he was also in a kindergarten offense and has tiny hands, whereas Peterman comes from a pro style offense and has nearly 10 inch hands. We could looks at measurables and make a lot of arguments. I stand by my argument that Rudolph is a 3rd, 4th rounder who is basically Bryce Petty with more college experience. About a round or two better than Nate Peterman. Rudolph just happens to be big. He's not special. He doesn't move the needle at all for this franchise. Not sure what a lot of people are seeing here. Rosen has been elite from high school, Allen has elite athletic ability and arm strength, Mayfield played at an extremely elite level in college, Jackson has elite athleticism and Darnold is seen by many as being an elite quarterback prospect. After that there is a huge drop off.

While I certainly think that is a possibility, I do think Terry Pegula and everyone else involved want an elite prospect at quarterback. It's why they did the trade last year, to get ammo to possibly move up for a quarterback this year. A round 2 quarterback like Rudolph or the guy from Richmond just isn't getting it done. If you don't trade up, I think you pass on quarterback this year.

Go back and watch Nathan Peterman's Gruden QB camp and you will floored. He also has a lack of arm strength. I think knowledge of the game can only take you so far if your can't throw an out route. And I agree, I wish we could take Rosen's brain and arm talent, Allen's arm strength and size, and Jackson's athletic ability and make a quarterback. Maybe Mayfield's moxie and Darnold's toughness as well. I wouldn't want anything from Rudolph. Very ordinary.

I could see it. I love Rosen. I'm guessing the Bills love one of Allen, Rosen, Darnold and that is why we hear all the smoke about the trade ups.

I'm guessing Elway loves Josh Allen. I think we could see a Denver and Buffalo trade up to 1-2 for Allen and Rosen (like teh Rams and Eagles a few years back). Cleveland could trade back with Denver and still have 4-5...if the Colts take Chubb, which most assume, the Browns can grab Barkley at 4 and then Darnold or Mayfield at 5.

We drafted Matt Milano at 6-0, 223, so he could be a 4-3 will. I could also see him being used by a creative 3-4 coach like James Bettcher with the Giants. (formerly Arizona)

This 100%. Honestly, I think Terry Pegula feels the same exact way. 5th-6th best quarterback is not going to change a thing. Go get Rosen.

I think DeFellipo really loves Sam Bradford. He also saw a lot of Cousins in the NFC East, so I think they go with either Bradford or Cousins. The Keenum to Denver thing doesn't make a ton of sense, but suppose its a reasonable bridge. There are connections as he started his career with Gary Kubiak, but Kubiak jerked Keenum around quite a bit in Houston. He is obviously in Elway's ear and Kubiak has said good things about Keenum.

It's seems they are meeting with a number of tackles, which is definitely the right move. Whether they consider a trade for Cordy Glenn we are still in need of depth at that position. I think Mills, Glenn, and Henderson will not be on this roster in 2018. But man Miller is blowing it up. Have to go back to the game film because Rosen got hit a lot.

If we can't trade up this is something that I would consider. I think it makes a lot of sense. People like to trade up into the bottom of the first all of the time. I think it really depends who is on the board at the time.

Mayock will flip things like he always does. I think he had DeShone Kizer #1 at this time last year, and moved him a lot (I think he ended at #5)as he started to hear the scouts' take on Kizer. Kiper will remain steadfast and stubborn.

This sucks for Price. Not a bad idea to get a little later.

Really good stuff. Thanks for sharing.

Fairburn says the Bills met with Kolton Miller. Could be a nice fit as a right tackle. He also played with Josh Rosen for three years, so he could definitely give some insight into his character and events over the last few years.

Good points. I think when you make trades you go to the limit that you are willing to go to. I'm not sure you can be too worried about what other people are doing or really what the market value is. If you have a guy you like, you go up and get them. It can sometimes be hard to find people to trade down with, so I think the Giants will be willing to play. Also I think you have to look at the context. The Giants are in a position where a left tackle is extremely valuable to them. Even if he winds up playing 4 more years...If you can get him for however long Eli will be around, it is a win. They can draft more linemen at 21, 22 and address their defensive change from a 4-3 to a 3-4. The Giants were a good team with a terrible line and awful depth. That depth is going to worse with the defensive change. They could fix both of those issues with a trade down and we could see them go from 3-13 to a Super Bowl. They lost their best player to an injury and lost a number of extremely close games. A trade down makes a ton of sense for them. Our GMs and coach have a very close relationship as well. I also think that a number of teams are going to fill the quarterback position with a veteran and I do not think the Bills are one of those teams. I think this makes it easier to trade up. I think if we trade up it will be for Rosen. I'm not sure if everyone is going to love him. I could see the Broncos, maybe the Cards, but I think both of those teams find veterans.

Agreed 100%. Great fit

He's a good player no doubt. There must be something wrong with him personality wise. There has to be some intangible that coaches don't like or maybe he's just really dumb or a bad teamate. If his friend who was tweeting on his behalf last year is any indication of the company he keeps, then I could understand why people might stay away from him. Either that or he just wants too much money.

Totally agree. They are in for a tough couple of years in terms of cap management. They will win some games, but not a Super Bowl. I think he is going to totally screw it up.

Austin is overpaid big time. I want Robert Quinn.

Lockstep!

Just the fact that he is saying that Tyrod would have to compete with Peterman, tells you they are moving on. The rest is coachspeak stuff imo.

Damn. Prayers to Jim!