MrEpsYtown

Fair enough and I am actually surprised to hear that. I have no problem with Bama. Saban is a great coach, no doubt. My problem is the adults that chew these guys up and spit them out. My point is that the majority of college coaches are the same. Convinced kids to sign on the dotted line, get them in, do little to help them, and move on when they are of no use to them. I would still guess that 70% of the players on the team hate him. They can't come out and say it, but it is what it is. College football is maybe one step up from indentured servitude.

There is actually a really good chance that Saban didn't even know the punter's name and probably never actually talked to him.

I think it was Megahand. I guess the the north does not remember ?

College football coaches are pretty much all POS in all honesty and Saban is at the head of the pack. They use kids up and spit them out and they don't give a crap about the kids on the team who aren't all that good. Snake oil salesmen all of them. Rosen is right. Look at the way Jim Mora is talking...POS. Brian Kelly threw Kizer under the bus last year. He had no reason to do that other than being a POS. They use kids for their own benefit and the majority of the kids get nothing out of it, except a free education that they usually can't finish

Gregg Williams would have to write a ton of bounty checks!

Oh shoot didn't realize. Thanks. I love him too. Makes sense if we wind up keeping the picks.

I think it is adding depth and talent there. We can't have another situation where a guy like Tolbert is getting carries or we are signing scrubs off the street at the end if the season. . Plus Penny and Ballage have some really good return ability. If we were bringing in Guice and Barkley for visits, I might think something was up with McCoy, but were are bringing in day 2 guys.

100% with you...it is crazy because I thought they hired Dorsey to sort of become the guy so they can stop having all of this dysfunction.

If we can read anything into these visits they clearly seem to want the 3 tech to replace Kyle next year. they seem to want: QB LB RB CB 3 Tech DT C

I think those things are just information he's heard from scouts and such, but I could be wrong.

Good points. I just feel like all that crap is for the fair weather fan. I worked in television for a bit, and generally speaking none of those nerds have any idea what fans want. They change things up to justify their jobs.

usually is paired with wanting Mason Rudolph as well.

I believe that the legend of mermaids actually comes from sailors having intercourse with manatees or something like that and justifying it.

For the better part of 20 years we have tried this approach. Build up the roster and try to get away with a crap quarterback. Hey the Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer that one time, so it could work. You sound like Doug Whaley. We had a lot of talent over the years. Where did that get us? We need a franchise quarterback and need to continue to build a team. But we need a franchise quarterback. A guy like Josh Rosen will not get killed behind a crappy line if he knows where to go with the football. Even Baker Mayfield, who I don't like, should be able to deliver a quick strike and throw the ball around.

Agreed. Great teams know how to make great lineman. They don't have to all be first round picks like Dallas. Castillo has done a lot for some later round draft picks in the past. Get the quarterback and linebacker and the rest will work itself out.

I love the idea that because Richie retired we should now draft a crappy quarterback.

Perhaps Smith can talk about how they shut Mayfield down in the second half. Mayfield's throat slash early in that game, probably not a great idea. He is an A-hole. Perfect for the Jets. http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/sports/college/sec/university-of-georgia/bulldogs-blog/article192542669.html

I'm all for Brian Cushing. I know he has the PED stuff but he could plug in at MIKE, is still a good player, really hard worker who is a great teammate. Aside from the PEDs, has McDermott written all over him, and is a big wrestling guy as well. Brian Gaine just left, be he was on our staff and maybe has some inside info on the guy. I know Gaine cut him, but Cushing got cut because he made too much money. Gaine spoke very highly of Cushing. We also have John Butler on our defensive staff, who is coming from the Texans staff. To me, it's a no brainer. You could still draft a guy, but would certainly plug a hole and add veteran leadership. He could als help Matt Milano gain some weight Luke Joeckel is worth a shot. He was a bust as a left tackle, but he has been much better inside. He is athletic and has a ton of length. He played really well for Seattle last year before he got hurt. Injuries have mostly been his biggest issue in his career. I don't think he would be a minimum salary guy, but he should be trying to sign before the draft. Bashaud Breeland is definitely a good player and the fact that Carolina signed him originally makes me feel that he could be a good fit for the defense. I'm curious about how serious his injury situation is. Rodgers Cromartie works as depth too. He was acquired by the Eagles after McDermott was fired so he played for DC Juan Castillo.

Howard is a Castillo guy too. Kind of surprised he wasn't the move.

I really think there is truth to the Darnold-Rosen Bills love. Those reports came out so early, way before the combine. There was a report of us loving Darnold in December. To me, that is not a smokescreen. I feel and hope that Rosen will be our guy.

Pretty much agree with everything he says here. Basically it's Darnold or Rosen, possibly Allen. The other guys do not seem to fit the mold for what the Bills want. The one thing he says that I disagree with is that this move has to happen now. I really don't think the Giants will trade out until they know what the Browns are going to do. So we really need the Browns to take Darnold for us to get Rosen imo. Just blitz his face off and draft really tall defensive lineman like 6-6 Trent Murphy.

Yep. Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, Colt Brennan, Eric Crouch say hi. Graham Harrell is hanging out somewhere as well. Arguably, the best quarterback in college history is now playing minor league baseball. Another one played point guard for the Knicks. People seem to really struggle to understand the idea of projection and what it takes to win in the NFL versus college. Not really sure what the confusion is on these boards.

I think we are pretty close to agreement. I think he was in that 15-20 range, but not the all pro that everyone made him out to be. He was a slightly better than average center. I do like Groy a lot actually and he spent a summer with the Patriots in 2015 so he should at least have some familiarity of the terminology Daboll will use. At the end of the day, short of signing Luke Joeckel (perhaps Castillo can tap into that natural talent) or offering RFA Matt Paradis (2nd round tender) a contract, we are probably looking at Bodine at center with Groy at LG. Of course we could look to upgrade in the second round as well.

You asked me who I would rather have, so I'm counting those three as guys I'd rather have over Wood. Obviously I can't say they are better, but projection tells me that I would rather have them.

I think a lot of Bills fans are afraid of being let down by a big time prospect like Darnold or Rosen. So they want to play it safe with a guy who sucks, so when he sucks they won't be let down. It's like having an ugly girlfriend because you are afraid a hot one is going to cheat on you. It is truly insanity.