MrEpsYtown

I gotta say I am kind of with Mr. Weo. And I think I get what he's saying. Having dominate top ten linemen but a lack of overall talent, like Tennessee with Conklin and Lewan, is like putting lipstick on a pig. It's cool that they are good and PFF likes them, it doesn't mean anything because the team doesn't win. It's kind of the same argument as the Joe Thomas situation. Like it or not, linemen are role players. They can put a team over the top, but they aren't superstars by any means. And I am a big line guy. I was a college lineman and I've been coaching high school linemen for 12 years. There is one top ten lineman left in the playoffs, and its Eric Fisher, and he's okay. Largely considered a bust. The Patriots should sign James Harrison for one game so he can dominate Fisher again. It's about the quarterback, the system, and the defense.

I guess it was reported Browns, Minnesota, and us. Browns filled OC and OL coach and Minnesota is going the Kubiak way, so I think we are the ones left at the moment. I guess it depends on what teams like the Jets and Bengals do.

I think the most impressive part of the article is that it seems he transformed Iowa into Offensive Line U. It all started with him, which is pretty cool.

There is no real connection here, however Philbin falls in the Mike Sherman tree, Sherman worked very closely with Andy Reid way back when. Just coaching tree connections. I'd be okay with Philbin. All I know is that he is a well respected coach. I didn't love his demeanor on those hard knocks shows though. I still prefer Ray Brown.

Thanks! Brown can bring RT Daryl Williams with him. He was huge for his development during their time in Carolina. Norwell can't really be moved until 2020. Mitch Morse is the best center on the market imo. He plays for KC and is just a really solid, smart player. He's still young as well.

Yep im interested to see if it was Marrone who was the problem. And I'm assuming he was.

So there is Pat Flaherty who has been around forever. He's 62 and coached those Giants Super Bowl teams. It's hard to judge his work in Jacksonville becuase you know Marrone is controlling things. Now I've sat in clinics with him and he knows what he's doing, but not sure he's the best fit. I asked him some questions about technique and things that he really wasn't able to answer. He gave me wordy walk around answers. I'm not sure he is the best teacher. He's better with veteran players imo. So if we get some in free agency, all good. I would think that Ray Brown would be he guy with all of his playing knowledge and such. He turned Andrew Norwell and Daryl Williams into all pro players. He has a working relationship with our braintrust and is well respected by players becuase he's done it at a pretty high level. Somebody on here suggested Corey Matthaei, who is the assistant o line coach in KC and I think it's an interesting idea. Hopefully he could bring Mitch Morse with him. It could just be a guy who is still in the playoffs.

Agreed. I think Hilton really struggled with the conditions. I know it's an even playing field and all, but he is a quick out of his breaks kind of guy, and I think the field conditions really hurt him. He's also had an ankle injury all year. But yeah across the board they were bead. Even Quentin Nelson was missing blocks. Glowinski looked terrible.

Way too conservative. They gotta be aggressive, let the dogs loose.

Yes. He's terrible.

Ughhh

I guess he won't be our new WR coach?

I think late first, second and third rounds is where you get your value picking up offensive lineman. The majority of the good ones fall in that range. And I am okay with trading down or using 2nd, 3rd round picks. I am completely against using a top ten pick, unless they are a generational talent like Quentin Nelson.

I'm not sure what you mean, but this was a conversation about the offensive lines of the winning teams.

Also the Cowboys are the team with all of those highly touted and drafted players (though Frederick is out) and they got their asses handed to them.

I agree with this. Also, having a me first offensive player really hurts the development of your young quarterback. If he feels the pressure to feed a guy the ball, he can't really execute the offense properly. They will add complimentary pieces. Allen is the man now.

You just need to find the right guys. Some of those guys are journeymen, second round picks, 7th rounders etc. the lone top ten player is Eric Fisher and he's probably the worst of the bunch. Also the Chiefs have a good amount of functional depth and overcame a few injuries this year. Find the right guys to gel for you. You don't have to use premium assets like top ten picks. And find functional depth. That has to be mission numero uno this off season.

I still love Robert Woods. A lot of times I harbor resentment when guys leave, but I still have a ton of love for Woods and I root for him.

I believe they can extend White after next season. I think it's after 3 years of a rookie deal.

Sign: Mitch Morse Daryll Williams Chris Conley Jesse James Maxx Williams versatile secondary piece like Jason Verett or Eric Rowe Try to trade a draft pick for: Forrest Lamp Alex Lewis Cut: Ducasse Clay probably DiMarco Draft BPA (no offensive lineman in top ten) Dawkins-Lewis-Morse-Lamp-Williams is your rebuilt offensive line, all similar ages and could gel nicely. Bodine and Teller are backups and you get a Tackle in the middle rounds.

Hopefully everyone here sees how good Mitch Morse is. I know PFF says Paradis is better. I disagree. Morse is really excellent. I hope we are all in on him.

I'm a sign both guys guy! You could cut DiMarco and have Williams double as a fullback/TE like he does in Baltimore. I like James a lot too. Draft TJ Hockenson too.

Can't believe he and Elway broke up

I'd totally hire him as a recievers coach. He was a great with Chad Johnson and TJ Howshamazod.

I mean they also just hired a head coach without a ton experience who just got fired from his college job. His teams sucked even though he had Baker a Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes. Joseph is a Mike Nolan-Wade Phillips guy so he does have experience as a 3-4 guy so it does make some sense. Joseph is not a head coach, but as a DC hire I don't think it's so bad.