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I tend to agree. If Oliver is gone, I really hope we go in this direction. I will throw a tantrum if we take a RT or Andre Dillard. I'd much rather take a shot on a guy like this.

I gotta ask the draft gurus out there, but what's the difference between Metcalf and former third round pick Chris Conley? I know DK is about ten pounds heavier. Conley had better college production, a better vertical, 4.35 40, great three cone. Both had some inconsistencies in their game. I thought it was funny when DK said the league has never seen anybody like him, and I immediately thought of Conley. I'm just wondering what makes 1 a top ten pick and the other a third rounder? It's not like that 2015 class had a bunch of unbelievable receievers in it. In fact that draft kind of sucked overall. I liked Conley in free agency and I think Metcalf is interesting, I just want to know what the difference is. I'm a line guy so I need some help from my skill people.

Not the worst idea. He's super strong and has a strong punch, but his footwork and things need work. If he isn't going to make he team as a guard it's worth a shot. I do think he ultimately makes it as a backup though.

So that Thanksgiving game is supposed to be a NFL 100 homage to those 90s Super Bowls. I think it would be pretty cool if we got to wear 90s throwbacks, red helmets and all.

I think a sleeper pick for the Bills is Byron Murphy. He's not a sleeper pick per se, because he is likely a first rounder, but I do think he is tailor made for the defense here. It would anger a lot of people if we took a pcorner that high, but Murphy across from White would be mighty tempting. I don't think he's a target at nine, but he could be in a trade down, or in a trade up from 40 if Murphy falls into the 20s. Just my 2 cents.

What's with all the new posters crapping all over everyone's takes? I guess its draft time.

Classic

David Sills!

Sports news Buffalo are also the people who reported that there is a contract of 14 million per year on the table for Ansah. You guys want Ansah at 14 million over Clark or Clowney at 20 and draft pick compensation. I'd much rather Clark or Clowney.

He's a good player but not sure what he has left. We should compare the posts in this thread to the posts at trade deadline time. At that time a lot of people wanted him and we was amazing. Now he sucks. Interesting.

Yeldon was coached by Kelly Skipper for the majority of his career. I think he is an interesting guy who could thrive in Daboll's offense, as the James White type. I dunno. I'm good with it. He's better than anything in the draft this year not named Jacobs.

So with Clark there is the Morgan connection and I like Clark a lot. Heath Farwell would also know him well. With th the Texans, their general manager Brian Gaine was here with the Bills under Brandon Beane. So there is a close relationship there and negotiations can probably be made quite easily becuase there is an element of trust. We also have John Butler on staff, and while he was the DB coach with the Texans, he would obviously know Clowney very well, would know his character in the locker room and see how he worked each day in practice. I do think Clowney would have a huge breakout in a 4-3 with much less responsibility. I'd take either one in a heartbeat.

Duke Williams wearing 82. Apparently Gelber is snooping around the locker room.

I think there are teams out there, like Atlanta and Tampa who would really like having Shaq, so I do think he has some trade value. But I do like the strides he's made. I think it really depends on how the rest of the offseason goes.

That Jones pick really sticks out. Seems a bit crazy, but he must have gotten some sniffs that the Giants really like Jones, and maybe a team like Cincy as well, maenaing the Giants have to take him at 6 if they want him. Who knows?

Perhaps a Paul Heyman with a massive cordless phone?

Ebron was seen as more of an athlete and a flexed tight end in the vein of a Graham type. He was not a great blocker and very inconsistent but had athletic upside and found a home as more of a #2 in Indy. Howard is closer to Hock in type and ability but he was seen as a huge underachiever, and hasn't really busted out in the NFL. He was a 5 star guy who did very little at Bama, so people questioned his heart and effort. Honestly, his NFL production is still pretty underwhelming considering his physical skill set. I think Hockenson is a different animal altogether.

I think the reason people like Hockenson is that he is a bit of a unicorn. He's a rare traditional tight end who can do everything at a very high level. A guy like Tyler Kroft can do a bit of everything, but nothing elite. Hock gives you elite in every aspect of the game and that is rare. I think at best he winds up being the second coming of Gronk and at the very worst he's Heath Miller or Kyle Rudolph. Cook is a 1 dimensional player, who can't block and has been a journeyman for a reason. I don't know about replacement value stuff, but I do think Hockenson is unique and needs to be treated that way. Most draft people think he is maybe the 5th or 6th best player in the draft overall.

Its defintely the heel version we got here.

That is pretty cool. Though I don't think Murphy makes the team.

I think that word "rare" stands out to me. Hockenson is a rare player at his position, the kind of guy we have not seen come out in a long time. The other thing with Hockenson that I think many people ignore is that he came out early. If he went back to school next year, with Fant gone, he would have been their go to guy, put up massive numbers, and probably talked about as a top 5 pick next year. I'm okay with the pick.

If that's the way the board falls I am all for Hockenson. He's a pretty unique prospect in a lot of ways and I think that our team is in a unique situation. Forget about bias from the past and things of that nature. His selection here makes a ton of sense on a lot of levels. And he's a better prospect than all the crap offensive linemen that people want becuase they are safe. He's likely the BPA in that situation. I also, and I've mentioned this a bunch of times, think that the Bills would be wise to hide their interest in Hockenson as best as they can to avoid having someone trade up into that 8 spot.

I'm not sure enough people here really understand how good Frank Clark is. He's really good.

It's not you. He made no impact. He looked tiny and overmatched. He's not the penetrating 3 Tech people are making him out to be. He's a 1 Tech who can play some three. Right now I'd start Jordan Phillips over him at the three as he has more penetrating ability. I'm not writing off Harry, but people are putting a bit too much stock in his improvement. I think he will be a good rotational player for us, but not a dominate starter.

I love Dion, but man his body looks pretty sloppy in those pictures. Not that I should judge from my couch, but he looks a little out of shape.