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The Bengals used him as an H back a bit as well. Not the worst idea.

That punter from Utah is faster than Preston Brown

Ill take some reach around love anytime

It's 1A and 1B for me. I love Allen, but I do think Bosa is a great fit in McDermotts base defense. Allen though is pretty awesome as well.

Im going all in on the idea of him at center. I brought it up a while ago and I stand by it. He's super smart with really good feet and shorter arms. I think he would be all world there. Instantly a top ten center in the league.

I need to do the same thing! lol

Zay blew a lot of opportunities. He should have had more, and that is on the rest of the offense. But he blew a lot of the ones he had, and that's why he is so disappointing in my eye. You can't be a playmaker if you can't make plays. A receiver who can't catch is worthless. If he is on the team this year, I hope he breaks out.

Whether you hate or love Zay, he has been a massive disappointment. I think there is a chance he could get moved, and I think there is a chance that he could break out. But no one can really deny how terrible he's been. Sure we saw flashes here or there. For a high second round pick, it's simply not good enough. I hope he is better, or moved for an offensive lineman.

I know. It's dumb, but it's one of those things that just bothers me. I'm glad I am not a scout.

That 6-4 kind of bothers me. It's not a big deal as we are talking fractions of an inch, but I'm a big measurements guy and not sure I love that. Eager to see how he runs.

What I mean is that I would not want to give up anything good for a rental. I think we need to grow a core, I don't think we should be a rental type of team. A sixth or seventh? That's fine. I'd give up more for a more long term asset.

Would you do that trade Gunner?

I think the interesting kernel in there is what he said about the tight end position. He said "finding the player who is the right fit based on who we already have on the roster." I think that means that they like Croom and are not looking for a "move" tight end like Fant. I think they are going to be looking for a true in line tight end who can block and catch. If that's Jesse James, or Hockenson, or whomever remains to be seen, but I thought it was an interesting nugget.

At the risk of sounding like John Madden, I don't think he is the "football player" Woods is. From all accounts he is a hard worker. It does seem that he is ripe for a breakout if he goes to a team that will make him more of a focal point in the offense. I could see him failing miserably under the pressure of being the "guy," just like he did as a first round draft pick. He played much better after they got Jeffrey and other guys around him. He isn't the competitor that Robert Woods is. There are a million stories about how coaches had to light a fire under him and push him, how the Golden Tate trade made him worker harder. Woods is working hard no matter what. He doesn't need a fire lit. I think that is the biggest difference.

I think this guy finally had a mini breakout, but I do think 6-0, 185 receivers who run 4.4 kind of grow on trees. He did cross over one year with Matt Barkley at USC. He would be playing on his fifth year option at 1 year and 9.4 million. Not sure that works for me, unless it's like a seventh round pick.

I think there are a lot of fair points here. As you alluded to, I think a lot is going to come down to his combine workout. I mean if he runs a 4.81, and measured 6-3, he won't be a top ten pick, but if he blows it up, or at least puts up respectable numbers, I think you are getting a pretty special guy. I am very interested in how he measures, height, weight, wing span, hands, things of that nature. I don't want an H back. We also have to keep in mind that the guy is a redshirt sophomore, so there is a still a lot of growth to be had.

Honestly, I would consider a trade up for Nick Bosa. That's it. Otherwise I'd be looking to trade back a few spots or stay put. I do not think that Beane will trade up this year. I remeber him saying something about trading up needing to be calculated and such and not something you can do every year. Having traded up for two first round picks last year, I think Beane moves around the draft board, but I doubt a trade up in the first.

I tend to agree with the OP. Zay Jones to the Chargers for Forrest Lamp and a pick. This reunites Zay with Phil McGeoghan and it allows the Chargers to replace Tyrell Williams with a cheaper guy. We get a nice guard prospect, who would be a top 1-2 interior player in this draft. Chargers throw in a pick because we are assuming some risk as Lamp has barely played since he was drafted. I think it's a win-win for both teams.

Definitely some kernels! Last year when discussing quarterbacks, pretty much everything Beane said he was looking for in a quarterback is what Josh Allen is.

The fact that the Pegulas are willing to eat these costs and fire people actually makes me happy. If they know they didn't hire the right people and they are willing to eat costs just to get rid of them, tells me they are willing to do whatever it takes to get things right. But it does show they must be doing something wrong that they haven't been able to get it right.

Eh, more high level executives should get fired these days. Companies have no problem firing a custodian if he isn't doing a good job, COOs and such should be no different.

Great points all around. The system certainly seems broken, but it's really just the Patriots who like to take advantage of loopholes and such in teh rules. The don't re-sign their own and then they draft their replacement with comp picks and they sign veterans like Jason McCourty who get tossed to the scrap heap. Playoffs teams should be exempt from comp picks. It's the rich getting richer. We had an opportunity for a comp pick or two when when signed guys like Leon Johnson and Mike Tolbert and such, but I'd rather have the playoffs then some third round pick. There is zero chance we get any comp picks for the next few years, but hopefully as the roster gets better, we will see a change there. Great points guys.

Quoting DJ from the article: "Hockenson is a fun player to watch. In the passing game, he fights through press coverage and will stair-step defenders (fights through pass coverage and understands how to attack the leverage of defenders) down the field, helping to create some separation on crossers and deep-over routes. He tracks the ball naturally and his high-point skills are on display in the red zone. He is very physical after the catch and possesses adequate speed. Hockenson is at his best in the run game. He ragdolls defensive ends and linebackers. He had multiple pancake blocks in every game I studied. Overall, Hockenson is one of the best blocking tight ends I've ever evaluated and he is dependable in the passing game. He's a Day 1 impact player at the next level." There are a lot of McBeane traits in that assessment: smart fights physical blocks dependable Makes a ton of sense. Every other guy he listed has some sort of flaw, with big upside. This guy has big upside without the big flaws.

This is a great point. Dolphins did have a ton of talent on the roster on paper, but they still sucked. They gave the Patriots fits though. Maybe it was the coaching, or maybe it was the quarterback, but they were not devoid of talent.

We just better not draft an o-linemen. I'm good with Hockenson or a defensive player. The guy is the real deal and game changing tight end. Guys with his skills do not often bust. Ebron was all projection with little substance and it took him awhile for things to click. Hockenson is a complete tight end who also has a huge upside, and that is what makes him worthy of a top ten pick.