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Josh Wells - swing tackle to compete

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Apparently D'Mari Scott is not allowed to eat.

I also think they could trade down to trade up like in 2017. (Yeah I know it was Whaley, but it really wasn't). They moved down for Tre White and then got themselves 2 second round picks in Dion and Zay. They did not pick again until the 5th where they had two picks and once in the sixth. So six picks overall. Last year they wound up trading up a couple of times to get Josh and Edmunds. Then they had no second rounder and didn't pick again until the end of the third. They had 8 picks, 1 of whom (Proehl) they had to cut and 1 (Ray Ray) who did absolutely nothing and probably gets cut this year. The there was Neal and Teller, who are both development pieces. And ofcourse 2 UDFAs who made a huge impact in Foster and Wallace. Now the team is so much better, and there is no chance ten draft picks make this team. I think Beane understands that he can package assets to get the picks that he wants. So I think we could see a big trade down, then a trade up. Ideally, in this draft, you want to get up for 1 of the three elite players, or you want to find a way to pick 3 guys in the top 40 or so.

I like a trade up with SF. I posted this in the other thread: Also, with the way free agency has gone down, I actually could see a trade up. If I'm Beane I am doing everything in my power to trade up for Nick Bosa or Q. Williams. At this point I think Oliver might fall. I am working a trade with San Francisco to go get Bosa. They only have six picks. We have ten, and we aren't going to use all of them. If I can get to 2 to draft Bosa and Williams without giving up my 2020 first round pick, I'm doing it. SF traded their 2020 2nd rounder for Dee Ford. Offer them #9, our 2020 2nd, and maybe a 4th and 5th. Basically they get Dee Ford for dropping from 2 to 9 and get a 4th and 5th. It's a no brainer. They can have Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson too if they want. I'm not normally a trade up guy. But I simply don't see how we fit 10 draft picks on our roster, and I see 2-3 elite players in this draft. With how free agency played out, I would totally work to jump up, specifically for Bosa or Williams.

Yeah this guy is a warning to all the Jonah Williams lovers that want to take him in the top ten. Khalil was a really good college tackle who had some flaws in his game, but was considered the next big thing. Really athletic and all, but he struggled with elite rushers and he was a bit light in the pants, so he was mediocre in the NFL. Their combine numbers are very close, but Khalil was an inch or two taller, has longer arms, and is stronger. Just like Robert Gallery and Luke Joeckel, that's what you are getting with Jonah Williams. He's more of a late first round guy for me. He is not elite, therefore you should take him in the top ten. Take an elite defensive guy.

Yeah I think Long starts at RG and Teller and Feliciano compete at the left spot. I think the draft a tackle somewhere, but I'm not sure they take a guy like Bradbury now.m

I think competent center depth is actually pretty hard to find. Unless they draft a guy, there really isn't any reason to cut him. That said, with Long, Feliciano, and Sirles all able to snap, Bodine may not be needed. But I really see no reason to cut him. I'd keep him.

Thread title is misleading ?

I would not give up high picks, but I do think some of these guys could be available on the cheap. I'd offer a 5th to the Saints for Hendrickson and he's blocked there by Davenport and Jordan. They got him in the third and they only have 6 picks this year (a 2 and a 5, the rest are 6th and 7th rounders. Maybe Offer the 49ers our 3 in exchange for their fourth, essentially trading down 20 or so spots. I also like some of the free agents like Edwards, Barrett, Ray, better than Ansah.

I think he'd be a base defensive end and rush as a tackle when Lorax goes to end.

I'm holding out hope for some sort of trade for a younger guy with some upside who doesn't have a spot....Solomon Thomas, Trey Hendrickson, Emmanuel Ogbah, Noah Spence, or sign a guy like Shaq Barrett, Shane Ray, Mario Edwards. I never liked Ansah as a prospect. I'd rather get a guy who is a little younger with some more upside.

I don't think he does. He had something like 12 career tackles, so perhaps he did it earlier in his career.

Another Brilliant Beane Blunder?

I don't think he should.

I hear you and great points. For me though, I wouldn't move him until I was absolutely sure he could not be an excellent tackle, and I'm not there yet. Up and down play with an online coach in Castillo who meshes great with some and not with others. I still think Dion has the athleticism and upside to be a top 10-15 left tackle and moving him in to guard would be my ultimate fallback. He admittedly got a little lazy. While that annoys me, I respect him for being honest instead of making excuses or blaming someone else. I think we should draft a guy like a Max Sharping to develop and to push him. Also I feel like having Nsehke around will be a boost to the o-line room, because that is a guy who has had to work his butt of just to latch on with an NFL team and his hard work has finally paid off in some gauatanteed money. He took nothing for granted. Morse is also a leader and big time worker. Let's see what Dion does this year and go from there.

If they release Seth Roberts, I'd be all over it. A guy I've always liked.

God that guy sucks. I can't believe he beat us in a playoff game becuase Tyrod Taylor can't throw the ball and Preston Brown is slow heaping pile who couldn't catch a scrambling Bortles.

Possibilities include David Mayo as a backup Will and special teams guy. And probably Wes Horton as a defensive end, if they can't get a hold of a bigger fish. So so there is some hope?

I think he has a chance to start at RT. I'm sorry but I am not moving my hand picked, 24 year old left tackle to another position for a 33 year old journeyman, one year wonder. It makes zero sense. I'm not hating on Nsehke, I'm simply stating that Dion Dawkins need to stay at left tackle until he proves that he can't do it. He's struggled a bit, but moving him off the position at this point makes no sense, especially for an older player who might just be here for a year or two. Development is important and I am confident Dion will be better.

I don't hate Zay, I just think, when you are a reciever, you should be able to catch the ball. That's all. He's nothing special. He does nothing special. Doesn't beat guys, isn't super fast, has zero RAC ability, and drops a ton of balls. He is more of a liability than anything. I don't care who the quarterback is, you gotta catch the ball.

Yeah this is a great move. The guy has been excellent for a few years and maybe we might actually get a return at some point, especially with our new special teams coach. Last return I remeber was Terrence McGee.

There are a good amount of guys still out there. While I think they avoid a guy like ASJ...you got secondary guys like Jeff Hueuerman, Maxx Williams, James O'Shaungessy, AJ Derby, Matt LaCosse...all guys who are interesting who have some upside as guys under 30. I also think you could make a trade for Tyler Higbee. The Thomas experiment was a good idea and worth a shot, but it just didn't work out and I'm fine with that. I still think Croom is a scrub, but I know I'm out numbered on that one.

That's what I'm saying. I think McDermott, Leslie Frazier, Bob Babich and their 80 plus years of combined defensive coaching experience knows a bit more than some guys on a internet. You have trust Babich on this one imo.

Edmunds was hand selected to be the MIKE backer for the next 10-12 years. Z. Brown was talking to McDermott and co about coming back. I believe they offered him a chance to come back and compete and he went to Washington, so they rolled with Humber and Milano at the Will. I don't know why they would circle back to him Zach Brown 2 years later now that he is older to move their franchise guy off the spot they picked him for. Zach Brown has always played inside in a 3-4 in his NFL career, so look for him to wind up in a place like Tampa Bay where they are making a 3-4 switch and have zero linebackers. He's not really a 4-3 mike, and while he could probably be a sam or will, he hasn't really done it.