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Yep just like they will be chasing a corner. It's deja vu. I am interested to see what corners are still on the board when we get to our second pick. That would add some context to what we did in round 1 here.

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They got back what they spent on him and he is very unlikely to play at all. Teams don't seem to buy into BS preseason stats anymore. With a whole new draft class of QBs coming in, it feels like NE is kinda getting something for him before the draft comes. I like Milton a lot and I disagree with the move, but I understand why they did it.

This is probably true. Yeah I think it's the above statement. His value is as high as it will get probably. I also think that NE is eliminating competition. Everytime Maye screws up, fans and Boston paper will be pining for Milton. Now he's gone. I don't agree with it, because competition breeds success. But I get it.

We all said this last year and they didn't do anything. Perhaps it's true, but I think a trade-up for an impact player in the first makes some sense this year. I also like the idea of three lottery tickets in the top 60 or so in the draft.

My opinion on the defensive line discussion is that we just need good players who make an impact. I think we get a little too hung up on the 1 tech, 3 tech thing. Don't get me wrong, I do not think we should be looking for another 280 lb DT, but just get guys who penetrate and make plays. Guys like Chris Jones and Jalen Carter line up all over the place and dominate. It is similar to the WR discussion from last year about #1s and X receivers and all that....it doesn't matter, just draft impact players. The bottom line is that this regime is very conservative. They draft for need high. They rotate a million defensive linemen in a way that drafting one high doesn't make a ton of sense if he is playing 20% of the snaps. I get it, the Eagles do it too. But Jalen Carter plays like 85% of the snaps on that team. Find a dude and let him play. I guess my point is that if they draft a DT high, I hope he is a dude and stays on the field. But Beane is drafting a corner because he drafts for need. Also, he just paid Benford, so he is going to look for a cheap starter to play opposite Benford for the next 4 years with that 5th year option. It's fine, but everyone knows they are drafting a corner and they need to hit on it. The reason he stinks early in the draft and does a nice job late in the draft is that later in the draft he seems to actually take BPA. There isn't much rhyme or reason to it, it's just pure BPA. That's how you wind up with guys like Shakir and Benford. I wish he would take the same approach at the top of the draft. His early drafting is deliberate and predictable.

You have a point, but Sapp and Moss stuff was over smoking pot. Moss had a history of being a bad teammate. It seems the Green stuff is a little different on the off-field concerns spectrum. This regime will not touch that guy.

Unless something changes on this roster, they are drafting a corner in the first round. Anyone who thinks any differently are likely lying to themselves. It’s a massive need and Beane seems to leave one huge position of need for the draft every year. It’s been his MO. Convincing ourselves that he drafts BPA is just not true. Now which corner it is, who knows…but it’s going to be a corner imo and Amos fits what they look for.

And just to add to the punt discussion, Miami signed Ryan Stonehouse. So there will be a competition between he and Jake Bailey. If this Camarda-Robbins battle does not work out, one of those two guys likely shakes loose. Dolphins new special team coach comes from the Titans, so it seems likely that Bailey is gone with some cap savings as well.

He seems to outkick his coverage and doesn't have that savvy, which was a concern coming out. Jake Camarda was a much better prospect coming out, so if he makes it for us, the whole Araiza saga comes full circle in a way that feels somewhat okay with me.

Watching his press conference, this dude has been through some stuff and seems very appreciative of what he has earned from hard work and dedication to the craft and thanks those few people who really believed in him along the way. There is some tremendous pain in those eyes. I am happy for him.

David Shannahan, left footer, former Gaelic footballer. Checks some boxes. But to me this is Camarda’s job to lose. Beane did say they were very high on him in the draft. He had two really good years and struggled this year and was cut. He’s a great athlete and there is upside there. Robbins feels like a nothing burger.

Diggs and Josh McDaniels are about as toxic as you can get for a young quarterback like Drake Maye. Add Vrabel to the equation and a backup quarterback with physical traits like Joe Milton and it is shaping up to be a bad situation for Maye.

@GunnerBill awesome work! with the way this draft fell, if the Bills force a corner pick, which I think they will do if no other additions were made, whose the corner left on the board you would take if forced to pick a corner at our pick?

I wanna see that cake clap

Meh

Bryant Johnson watch all over again

I have fallen into the trade for young vets who have fallen down the depth chart/fallen out of favor trap and the two guys who make sense the most to me are Julius Brents and Jalin Hyatt. And so I will sit alone on this hill and wait and see if anything happens with those guys. It's more likely that their teams will go into camp to see what they have, but if I am the Bills, with ten draft picks I would be willing to sacrifice a couple of picks to add those two guys who are still younger than some of the guys in this draft class.

I think he makes a ton of sense because he adds and interesting dynamic to the offense that isn't quite present.

Yeah Fotu is similar, at least on paper to Jones.

I would look to trade a pick somewhere for a young guy who is now blocked because of what his team did in free agency. I mentioned trying to get Alex Austin back from the Pats, coaching changes etc and he is basically a 3/4 corner there where I would be excited to have him starting here opposite Benford over guys like Jackson. This seems unlikely, but it's something I would pursue. How about JuJu Brents? He has had issues staying on the field, but he has flown down the depth chart in Indy, and there was also a defensive coaching change there. I am not sure he is a great fit for the scheme there now. He was already behind Kenny Moore and Jaylon Jones, and they added Charvarius Ward and Corey Ballentine. He seems like a guy who badly needs a change of scenery, and I always like his fit here. Brents is a slower corner at 4.53 with ridiculously long arms and a crazy 3 cone. I'd give them what we got for Kair. Maybe Jacksonville's Montaric Brown or Jarrian Jones? Seems like they are making changes there. Just some ideas to try and get guys who maybe could use a change of scenery. I would love to get our hands on Brents. He was made to play in the McDermott scheme.

The guy that there were rumors about Samuel...is still around. I just really hope they add a legit starting corner, otherwise, they are telegraphing their first round draft pick once again.

I don't think he is the tub of goo we (the fans) are really looking for, but he adds depth and I am ok with it if he I really cheap. He is pretty big but he is also pretty tall and long, he isn't the fire hydrant NT type. He's more epoor man's Raekwon Davis, the long nose tackle. Not the best breakdown, but there is a lot of him playing three tech in here, and some zero.

I suppose that’s my point in a backwards way. Newsome is not a great fit here imo, is very expensive and is on the brink of walking. Emerson is a great fit, cheap, and also on the brink of walking. Maybe Newsome is available, but I don’t think the Bills can afford to pay him 14 mil, or would be willing to pay what it cost to get him. IMO the Bills would prefer a guy like Emerson, but the Browns are less likely to want to move him because he is cheap, but he is also on the brink of walking. I don’t think either situation works.

I am not Gunner, but I’ll share my take anyways… I think the issues with Newsome are multiple…first he is a nickel corner. I suppose the Bills could move him back outside, but he’s become a nickel guy. Second he is playing on a 5th year option, so not only is the salary high, nearly 14 million for 1 year, he then becomes a free agent. So you aren’t signing Newsome and Benford. And finally, despite all of those issues with the fit, he will also cost a significant draft pick imo. The better fit is Martin Emerson. He seemed like a great fit here draft time, he played corner at Mississippi State where McDermott has ties, and he was coming out as a good zone corner. Long arms, a little slower, tackles..he’s a McDermott corner. However, the issue is he is an also a free agent after 2025 so you run into the same issues. I could see the Browns trying to get something for him if they plan to pay Newsome, because they won’t be able to pay Emerson, Newsome, and Ward. But I think a trade for him is more realistic mid season. But I don’t think the Browns would trade a young, cheap, corner unless they want him out or are trying to get something for him before he leaves.