Motorin'

They lost their QB in the first quarter. It would have been a totally different game. We really missed out on a good matchup.

Inconceivable!

If Garner Minshew has 4 turnovers in a couple of weeks the Eagles have no chance.

Mahomes and Burrow have combined for 29 points over the last 8 quarters of Super Bowl play against the NFC's best defense. And you're using a Garner Minshew 4 turnover game that gifted the Cowboys 28 points as some kind of proof against the Eagles defense.

Just like last year, and the year before.

Jason Kelce is so good and such a throw back. Not many 6' 2" 290lbs lineman can manhandle the line of scrimmage.

It should be 0-0 right now. Heads up move for Smith to call whatever play that was to get that snap off before there was enough time to review. But if your the 49ers watching the guy catch the ball call for a no huddle snap you got to wonder if you need to throw the flag.

You mean the two runs out of shotgun in 11 formation handing the ball to a stationary RB that didn't work most of the year? I'm talking about using heavy packages against their nickel D with pulling lineman and pin pull technique. It worked on the first drive in Cinci all the way down the field. But it was never used in Buffalo. I'm taking about using an advantage you have until you make the opponent adjust, which then opens up the aspect of the passing game that their nickel is designed to shut down. Instead Dorsey spammed the same concepts out of the same formation and got a whole 3 points in the second half. But getting physical on offense would have been a bad idea cause we were down 10 with the ball to start the second half. It would have been really dumb to run right at Hendrickson and muscle the ball down the field on the opening drive of the second half and try to establish a physically punishing presence. We needed to play softer with more finesse to have a chance... Got it.

The only drive they committed to running the ball against the Bengals nickel defense was the only drive they scored a TD on. It's similar to the New England weather game in a sense. The winds blowing left to right at like 50 mph and they refuse to set the FG up on the left hash. And lo and behold Bass misses wide right from the right hash. Now we can't win the game with another FG from the left hash, we have to score a TD into fierce winds. They refuse to accept the reality of the situation and adjust accordingly. It's also why the Giants won Super Bowl 25 and the Bills lost to a team with far less talent. They exploited the Bills weakness and the Bills refused to take what was being given to them until it was almost too late. What I'm suggesting is that the Bills coaching refuses to look at the other team's weakness's to exploit. And had they done so it could have been a more competitive game. Instead they give their best RB only 6 carries on a sloppy day and let Josh throw 25 incompletions on low percentage passes. Coaching certainly was not the only reason the game was lost. But it was the only thing that could have kept them in the game. And coaching failed as miserably as the offensive and defensive execution.

And yet the Bengals only scored 7 points in the 3rd quarter, and only 3 points in the 4th. 10 second half points. On our only TD drive we rushed about as many times as we did for the rest of the game. Had we had two more drives like that at any point in the game, it puts us within a FG of tying or a TD of taking the lead... And the Bengals would have had fewer drives that they did, not more.

Definitely agree on the Bengals superior wr talent. And it's not so much that I'm focusing on rushing stats. It's that I'm focusing on the inflexibility of the Bills offensive scheme and their refusal to seemingly game plan for their opponents weakness. Something the Bengals can't be accused of. The Bengals are a nickel D that's susceptible to the run out of heavy packages. While their D has been able to shut down elite passing offenses. So for a Bills team, that lacks in receiver talent against a defense that has routinely shut down Mahomes with their cover 2 and simulated pressure, not to take advantage of the heavy ground game was infuriating. I'm not suggesting a complete change in offensive philosophy, rather opponent specific game planning. Here's one area that Daboll does seem much better than Dorsey. And yeah, the game felt over at 14-0... But it wasn't. Had the Bills converted 2 additional drives for TD's at any point, we're talking a 27-24 game with the possibility of getting the ball to drive for the winning score. And I think their best chance of staying in that game was to lean on the heavy package run game and utilize play action. Instead we played into the strength of their D, exposed our weaknesses on the line and at wr. And attempted way too many low percentage throws in clutch situations.

Yeah, that's true. As a general rule. But the thing about the Bengals game is that the weather, poor footing and the defensive alignment meant the run game and high percentage underneath pass game would give the offense an advantage. Instead we relied in low percentage passes and refused to run... But the Bengals didn't. One of the worst running teams in the league put up 172 yards on the ground, compared to 240 yards through the air. Josh actually threw for more yards then Burrow, but couldn't keep drives moving. The Bengals moved the sticks on the ground and schemed up high percentage passes all day.

Except for the catch rule. The old catch rule the reciever only had to have two feet down while possessing the ball for a microsecond. If the old catch rule were reinstated in today's NFL, the results would be off the charts. Although it also resulted in a ton more fumbles that today would be ruled incomplete.

The Bengals ran the ball 28 times w/ their RB's for 140 yards. The Bills ran 11 times for 38 yards... Cook was clearly ineffective on the slippery field, whereas he had gashed the Bengals on the one drive... But Motor could have helped keep us in the game... The point is, the two drives that the Bills did score on they mixed in the run. And all the rest of the drives looked like the Bills against the Jaguars, passing 95% of the time with little to no success.

It's not that the Bills couldn't run the ball against the Bengals. It's that they refused to run the ball against the Bengals. Motor has 6 carries for 25 yards, 4.2 per carry. The Bengals stay in base nickel against heavy set packages, and the Bills could have run the ball down their throat until they pulled Hendrickson and added a 3rd LB. Which is when Josh would have been able to throw deep. But it's almost like they watched Burrow take 5 to 10 yards every play and said to themselves the only way they could keep up is to throw bombs. When in fact the only way they could have kept us is by taking 4-5 yards per play and moving the sticks all day. Like they did against the Rams and the Titans, until the deep shots opened up. Their motto wasn't "humble and hungry" it was "stubborn and hard headed."

He's a good receiver on short and intermediate routes. Can play inside and out. I think Josh would do for him what he did for Jon Brown and Cole Beasley when they were first signed, elevate his play resulting in the best performance of his career. He's a potential 1,000 yard reciever in this offense and a #2 posession wr. Also makes us better while weakening our divisional opponent.

No dark sarcasm in the classroom.

I said this about Frasier last year, and it just occured to me about McDermott. I think they would probably both be better coaches at the college level. They're very rigid in their process both on and off the field, and could probably have more impact on the lives of college players hoping to turn pro. And I honestly think they'd be more fulfilled being able to mold young men. They could probably take over a major D1 program and start recruiting the best talent with the promise of the NFL and win multiple national championships. But I have doubts if they have the flexibility and creativity required to take an NFL team to the highest level.

Lol, I knew "everyone" who believes any kind of insane conspiracy theory was going to jump on a body double conspiracy theory as soon as I saw the way he came in and was introduced at the game. And like clock work.

Nobody plays multiple yards off beyond the sticks in cover zero on 3rd down. And the teams that run it often and well play press man. They know they'll have a free rusher so they have to cover for a minimum of 2 seconds. If they can cover for 2 seconds their pressure will get home.

This play killed me live. I wanted to throw something at the TV. I could believe they played this far off on such a crucial 3rd down. It was infuriating in the moment. And even worse looking at it now.

The Bills were actually quite good running the ball when they brought Bobby Hart in as a blocking TE. We should have gone to that yesterday and shoved the ball down their throat. It worked on the first series in Cinci, because they stay in nickel. If we had done that enough, they would have pulled Hendrickson out and maybe added a LB. And that's when you go to play action. But back to the thread. Dawkins and Morse are average starters. Bates is a slightly below average starter. And Saffold and Brown grade out as backups. Draft two G's, one that has C experience and an OT to compete with Brown.

We need a new monster LG and RT.

Great points. Dorsey also seemed to refuse to go to 12 or the Bobby Hart package yesterday, even after the Ravens had gashed them all day long. Like the Bills, the Bengals stay in base nickel even against heavy looks. Dorsey could have explored that all day, especially running at Hendrickson. The one time I remember them doing that, freaking Dawson Knox blew him up. Stubbornness is this staff's Achilles heal. From refusing to play younger, newer players over failing vets, to refusing to alter the game plan to take advantage of the other team's weaknesses.